dwarf cleric13/monk2/fig1 twf d.axes viable?????

[grozzbaith]

Hi all. Do you think this character is viable? I want to dual wield d.axe, have GTWF and be a decent healer (meaning that i melee for my fun only but want to be able to support group). I do have a 16 human cleric and i was looking for something different.

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Redtainted 
Level 16 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(1 Fighter \ 2 Monk \ 13 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 272
Spell Points: 867 
BAB: 11\11\16\21
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 10
Will: 17

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 16)           (Level 16)
Strength             15                 15                   15
Dexterity            15                 17                   17
Constitution         16                 16                   18
Intelligence          8                 10                   10
Wisdom               16                 20                   22
Charisma              6                  6                    6

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 16)          (Level 16)
Balance               7                  8                   12
Bluff                -2                 -2                   -2
Concentration         7                 23                   23
Diplomacy            -2                 -2                   -2
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -2                 -2                   -2
Heal                  3                  6                    6
Hide                  3                  3                    3
Intimidate           -2                 -2                   -2
Jump                  4                 14                   14
Listen                3                  6                    6
Move Silently         3                  3                    3
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                  0                    0
Search                0                  0                    2
Spot                  3                  6                    6
Swim                  2                  2                    2
Tumble                5                  5                    5
Use Magic Device     n/a               n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stability
Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stonecutting
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Giant Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Damage
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Handaxe
Feat: (Automatic) Orc and Goblin Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Poison Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Club
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Dagger
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Heavy Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Light Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Quarterstaff
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Unarmed
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Dwarven Waraxe
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency


Level 3 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead


Level 4 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)


Level 5 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)


Level 6 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Meditation


Level 7 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+2)


Level 8 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)


Level 9 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)


Level 11 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)


Level 12 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 13 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)


Level 14 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)


Level 15 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith I
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith II
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith III
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot III
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Cleric Wand Mastery I
Enhancement: Cleric Wand Mastery II
Enhancement: Cleric Wand Mastery III

Hit points should be about 400.
272 +
48 (+6 ITEM)
16 (+2 TOME)
30 (GFL)
10 (DRACONIC)
18 (MINOS)
45 (SHROUD ITEM)
---------
439 HP.

Spell point should be around 1200.
867 +
22 (+2 tome) not sure about the value
66 (+6 item) not sure about the value
150 (wiz VI)
150 (shroud)
-------------
1255

AC breakdown: ( i will try my best )
10 base +
10 wis (22+6item+2tome)
6 dex (17 + 6 item )
6 armor (on DTrobe)
2 chaosguard
4 deflection (shield of faith but maybe on DT robe or +5item)
1 ritual
1 dodge (will consider to swap for power attack at 16)
4 insight
3 chattering ring
----------
47 +
self buffed
2 recitation
3 barskin
1 haste
4 shield clickiessssssss
-----
57 can probably go higher with icy+ac bracer


first swing w/ divine power and favor:
16 base +
6 str (2+3 DP + 1 (+1tome))
5 weapon
3 divine favor
2 axe
-2 axe twf/otwf
------
30
1 haste
2 heroism potion
1 rage potion
----
34
-5 with Power Attack
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29


Constructive comments please....
Writing this i consider taking the figther level around 11 to include IC:Slash instead of PA. Im also not sure about empower healing.....

PS. I am currently testing this guy (no tomes eated!!!), he is currently lvl 5.

Thanks for any input.

[Sphinx111]

See my Enygma cleric here:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...20#post2233820

Very similar to what you're talking about.

Couple of notes.

Long term I'd look at switching IC out completely. A pair of Mineral II DAs are the way to go, putting wisdom +1 on one, and wisdom +2 on the other. Try and get your hands on keen of puncturing weapons for Giants etc, and since undead can't be crit anyway it's not important for them.

I have normally around +35 to-hit buffed with Divine Favour and Divine Power, so Power Attack is a great asset.

[Enochroot]

Why go wis-based with no casting feats/enhancements to support it?

[Sphinx111]

Why go wis-based with no casting feats/enhancements to support it?

• Spell points
• AC
• Will Save
• Some spells dont require enhancements to make them that much more viable

[grozzbaith]

Thanks for your reply Sphinx.....Even though we seem to be a ocean apart. No wonder i did not find it on this forum
I did follow your link to the codemaster forum. (I have found the discussion about the Ultimate Cleric very helpful in term of strategy in group and the versatility a cleric can have).

enochroot: thanks for your reply. casting feat? heigten,spell pen,spell focus and such. Spell pen. is actually a good point. I will have to look at it because my philosophy for cleric is to be able to work within a group.So everything that is detrimental to the group is to me also. I will not dump wisdom because i want my fun and let the group die for poor spell selection(meaning having only the buff spells And starting with 11 Wis). I dont want to be a buff, go and dont care about the others type. Enhancement and feat will probably be moved around alot depending on level and gear. I encourage you to follow the link that Sphinx gave.

Question:Is quicken worth it? with high con and high concentration and evasion.

Question: Does the extII , max II from the gloves of the glacier work with the cleric even though he doesnt have them in his enhancement list?

Question: Starting stats? should i go 16str,16dex,12con or 15str,16dex,14con?Or stay the same assuming i have a +2dex tome. The 15,16,14 split appeal more to the cheap guy inside me

Thank you for any answers.

[Torgator]

Question:Is quicken worth it? with high con and high concentration and evasion.

Question: Does the extII , max II from the gloves of the glacier work with the cleric even though he doesnt have them in his enhancement list?

Question: Starting stats? should i go 16str,16dex,12con or 15str,16dex,14con?Or stay the same assuming i have a +2dex tome. The 15,16,14 split appeal more to the cheap guy inside me

Thank you for any answers.

Question 1: Yes Quicken is worth it. There are many situation where the faster casting saves you. Espacially when you are meleeing

Question 2: Yes it does.

Question 3: I would start with 16 str 15 dex (+2 tome) 14 con