Maybe I'm a Jerk

[kappelm]

... but I'm playing a Wiz 7/Rog 1. I can get traps better than a lot of rogues. I was in Gwylans, and everytime I found a trap the rogue kept cramping my style by immediately disabling. He didn't even let me get the ones I found! I asked what his disable was (knowing mine was likely better), and while mine was better, he insisted he still had me beat because I was self-buffing (all I had was heroism, no biggie). Needless to say, I let him stay ignorant and play his tiny non-dps role. However, for the rest of the quest, everytime I hasted the party, I immediately hit him with a dispell magic. Yeah, I'm a jerk.

[Tarackian]

you said it, i don't have to. your abilities pay off when you dont have a rogue in the party. allow each to play their own characters. why get into a mine is bigger than yours debate? as you can see it gained you nothing but aggravation. log the toon's name and move on. the dispell was a bit much. it only reduces you.

Lucky for you he didn't get all the aggro and drag it to you....seen it many times. usually right before the party disintegrates because of egos.

[DragoonPenguin]

... but I'm playing a Wiz 7/Rog 1. I can get traps better than a lot of rogues. I was in Gwylans, and everytime I found a trap the rogue kept cramping my style by immediately disabling. He didn't even let me get the ones I found! I asked what his disable was (knowing mine was likely better), and while mine was better, he insisted he still had me beat because I was self-buffing (all I had was heroism, no biggie). Needless to say, I let him stay ignorant and play his tiny non-dps role. However, for the rest of the quest, everytime I hasted the party, I immediately hit him with a dispell magic. Yeah, I'm a jerk.

urge to flame rising....

[Strakeln]

Just wait for VoN 5

DING!

[Furbitor]

yep.

If your not interested in being in a team, then why stay? If you was grouped with another caster and every time you hit the haste button he popped one as well, do you care?

I mean really. Save yourself the mana and allow him to burn thru his sp. Trap monkeys want to role play as well and you trying to tell a "master thief" he can't do his role is saying you don't want him to function. It's like tell a barbarian not to fight.

What you will get is an earful of static in game and real life, and then you find yourself solo.

DDO is enforced teamplay. Be flexible.

if the rogue cant reach his traps.. then assist.

insisting you do all the quest yourself and just dragging 5 ppl behind you isn't fun for anyone.

[DragoonPenguin]

Here is how this reads to everyone but the OP:

... but I'm playing a Wiz 7/Rog 1. I can get traps better than a lot of rogues, because instead of pumping my con, I favored my dex at creation because I will have a viable endgame AC. I was in Gwylans, and everytime I found a trap the rogue kept cramping my style by immediately disabling (my stream of urine was always the longest at my childhood urinating contests - the trick is to punch the competitors in the bladders beforehand). He didn't even let me get the ones I found (he kept saying something about controlling the crowd. I didn't see any crowds at the trap boxes, like 3 minutes behind the rest of the party...)! I asked what his disable was (knowing mine was likely better, thank you viable endgame dex-based AC), and while mine was better, he insisted he still had me beat because I was self-buffing (instead of nuking the mobs with firewalls, make love not war I am a pacifist caster and use hold person to put the humaniod mobs in time out when I DO cast. well, IF I do cast I guess). Needless to say, I let him stay ignorant of how much longer my stream of urine is and play his tiny non-dps role (which was irritating because he was out-non-DPSing me). However, for the rest of the quest, everytime I hasted the party (I think it was once or twice), I immediately hit him with a dispell magic. Yeah, I'm a massive buttpipe.

urge to flame falling...

[Yajerman01]

You have rogue skills, great! those are secondary to your primary skills. As such, let the rogue do his thing, if hes a gimp, you will know soon enough with the explosions, but dont race to the box just to prove you can do it, who cares.

Dispelling him from haste is not being jerky, its just cheesy and lame. Be a team player.

[Sneakee]

Yeah, I'm a jerk.

You answered your own question.......

[Zenako]

Just curious, how would you react to a pure wizard 8 who was demeaning your spells as gimped (due to being only 7th level in effect) vs his 8 levels of effect? If the level 8 Wiz told you not bother buffing or casting the spells in question since he had better versions of them and it would be a waste for you to duplicate his effort?

Von 5 is a real good "ding" moment....good one Strakeln.

Yes you were being a jerk.

The point of splashes is to allow one to cover special needs when it is otherwise not covered. You can perform a tiny slice of the role of a Rogue. Traps (and probably locks) I would guess, you might have also pumped up Search.

In some ways like my Fighter with a single Splash level of Cleric can do some of things a Cleric would do.

[kappelm]

Here is how this reads to everyone but the OP:





urge to flame falling...

Actually I didn't favor dex; I favored int, which is what my sp and disable,search are based on... but you play a rogue, so you know that... My con is low, but with a +2 tome and an item, I will be better endgame than all those drow sorc/wizzys running around.

[Yajerman01]

Actually I didn't favor dex; I favored int, which is what my sp and disable,search are based on... but you play a rogue, so you know that... My con is low, but with a +2 tome and an item, I will be better endgame than all those drow sorc/wizzys running around.

wow are you new? If so your coming off pretty strong basing things on assumption. If your a vet, then your really laying on the arrogance thick, I digress though, your coming off arrogant either way.

Alternatively it sounds as though you are racist towards Drow.

[kappelm]

I've been playing for some months. What am I wrong about (aside from being a jerk with dispell and not being a team player)?

[Zenako]

It is easy for a Wiz/rogue to hit some outstanding numbers on INT based skills, and enjoy that synergy. What will hurt is the lack of evasion and improved evasion on high end traps, along with the very high REF saves those traps call for. Not hard for a single level splash to disable most all traps, where you can stand in a safe spot.

No one is gonna argue that the combo has merit, it does and will. Taking more than 1 rogue splash level will impact your spell access however, but at a tradeoff for evasion which some consider worth it.

[soupertc]

... but I'm playing a Wiz 7/Rog 1. I can get traps better than a lot of rogues. I was in Gwylans, and everytime I found a trap the rogue kept cramping my style by immediately disabling. He didn't even let me get the ones I found! I asked what his disable was (knowing mine was likely better), and while mine was better, he insisted he still had me beat because I was self-buffing (all I had was heroism, no biggie). Needless to say, I let him stay ignorant and play his tiny non-dps role. However, for the rest of the quest, everytime I hasted the party, I immediately hit him with a dispell magic. Yeah, I'm a jerk.

Doing a good job here is like peeing in a dark suit.

You get a warm feeling, but nobody really notices.

[Jay203]

Here is how this reads to everyone but the OP:





urge to flame falling...

FAIL

you're not being "clever" by adding in those text, you're probably the ONLY one that read the OP as such

to the OP'er, dispelling his haste is really unecessary and unwarranted. generally it's works better if you succeed after his failure, that'll make him fell bad =)
but before that happens, just let him do the stuff

[Sirea]

Will you guys ever learn that you're giving this kind of forum troll exactly what he wants?

But by all means, keep feeding him, it's good entertainment

Popcorn, anyone?

[Thriand]

Wow when I'm on my rogue I fight with other rogues over who gets to be the one to NOT disable the traps. Honestly who cares, everyone knows that every wizard with a level of rogue can do traps and that every rogue can do traps if they so please, but the important thing is what they do that aren't traps.

[Uproar]

So the magnetitude of the OP jerk aside, does a player cast dispell magic actually remove another player's buffs?

That's wrong on so many levels and possibly explains a few past events, if so.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Yeah, I'm a jerk.

That was the only thing of value you said.

So the magnetitude of the OP jerk aside, does a player cast dispell magic actually remove another player's buffs?

Yes.

[Sirea]

So the magnetitude of the OP jerk aside, does a player cast dispell magic actually remove another player's buffs?

That's wrong on so many levels and possibly explains a few past events, if so.

It's good fun in guild raids tho Just like jumping on the traps in Pt 3 of Shroud