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    any chance we can get an update on whirling steel strike, and if it will make it to mod 10 ?

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    /crosses fingers

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    I am still hoping on more weapon types being added too, as this will do nothing for dex based monks.

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    that would be cool if there was a Tai Chi sword graphic and style animations added

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    OP: It involves using a monk feat that isn’t from the Oriental Adventures sourcebook. So it will never happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuantumFX View Post
    OP: It involves using a monk feat that isn’t from the Oriental Adventures sourcebook. So it will never happen.
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    Eladrin has stated that this will come in eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moorewr View Post
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    Eladrin has stated that this will come in eventually.
    I think his exact wording was “SOON™”. And you can see how well that’s worked for them.

    FYI: Your sarcasm detectors should be pegging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trina View Post
    that would be cool if there was a Tai Chi sword graphic and style animations added
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    Bump for some info. Actually I just want to know if the "Make long swords centered feat" is a go for Mod 9

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    Here is Eladrin's exact quote on it way back in October:

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    Whirling Steel Strike (the early prototype of which you've found there) will likely require Martial Weapon Proficiency: Longsword, Weapon Focus: Longsword, and at least 1 Monk level as prerequisites. The feat you found there in the compendium is an early experiment - I have no timeline for when Whirling Steel Strike will make it into the game, it's being problematic.
    It's not in the release notes, and I highly doubt it will be in mod 9. No one knows when it is coming at this point, if ever.
    Last edited by Fennario; 06-14-2009 at 05:10 PM.

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    arent katanas monk weapons? and would they allow for a monk to stay centered?..asking cause i really dont know

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    Any update in here? When the feat is comming, or is it comming at all ever? Just to know how to plan my current monk, put a few placeholder feats in it and probably get the prereqs, with the increased cost of feat respec don't wanna have to change too many at once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by axebender View Post
    arent katanas monk weapons?

    and would they allow for a monk to stay centered?

    ..asking cause i really dont know
    No

    No (at least not without said feat)

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivanto View Post
    Any update in here?

    When the feat is comming, or is it comming at all ever?

    Just to know how to plan my current monk, put a few placeholder feats in it and probably get the prereqs, with the increased cost of feat respec don't wanna have to change too many at once.
    None yet

    Unsure

    At some point, eventually yes - in the forseeable future, no

    You could easily squeeze in Weapon Proficiency: Longsword and Weapon Focus: Slashing into a Monk build and then use say iCrit: Slash to be swapped out later for Whirling Steel Strike (go GS Longsword). Works well for Kama builds atm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greydeath View Post
    None yet

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    At some point, eventually yes - in the forseeable future, no

    You could easily squeeze in Weapon Proficiency: Longsword and Weapon Focus: Slashing into a Monk build and then use say iCrit: Slash to be swapped out later for Whirling Steel Strike (go GS Longsword). Works well for Kama builds atm...
    Tnx for the reply. Was afraid of that. Prof isn't a prob as I plan on an elf monk, even better for longswords that way.
    True, wf: slash is already useful for kamas, didn't consider that, tough I won't use IC slash as placeholder, would need it after getting longswords as ki weapons even more, min2 isn't the end of the world. Probably a toughness or sf:umd or something similar.
    Last edited by Vivanto; 06-28-2009 at 08:18 PM.
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    Quick bump, as I'd still love to see this make it ingame and/or get a dev response.

    Sadly, this will require a slew of feats I think. WF:Longsword and most likely OTWF (otherwise you're eating a -2 penalty on your offhand), in addition to the 3 TWF feats, and any others you regularly take as a monk (toughness, dodge, power attack, i:crit, etc.).

    But it would be a nice alternative for the STR-focused monks who want something other than a Quarterstaff, and would also solve a lot of the Monk issues regarding lack of transmuting weapons and/or GS. Especially at earlier levels, it would offer a nice dps boost (heck, I'd go dual-longswords if only for the boost in my melee range capabilities. Chasing after runners with my bare fists is frustrating).

    Come to think of it, it would be disgusting to see what a 20 monk could do with dual GS longswords and in grandmaster wind stance....
    Ouch.
    Maybe that's the real reason it hasn't been implemented. The Rangers would cry

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    Quote Originally Posted by axebender View Post
    arent katanas monk weapons? and would they allow for a monk to stay centered?..asking cause i really dont know
    Katanas are Samurai weapons, not Monk weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    The release notes themselves are essentially the same as was seen on Lamannia most recently.
    This^, in so many words, is how you say time and feedback on Lamannia are wasted.

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    Since the NDA has been lifted - Eladrin gave an update in the beta forums a couple weeks ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    Whirling Steel Strike is still in the "experimental" (i.e. "doesn't work") stage of development, sorry.
    It's not going to be in mod 9.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkat View Post
    Katanas are Samurai weapons, not Monk weapons.
    I believe the feat is based off of the film “Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon”.
    Last edited by QuantumFX; 07-08-2009 at 06:40 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuantumFX View Post



    I believe the feat is based off of the film “Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon”.
    Maybe. Even if it was, those swords were NOT Katanas. Katanas are Japanese weapons. That movie took place in China.

    No, the swords in the movie are commonly called "Tai Chi" swords.

    Here's a link to what they look like:

    http://www.swordsdirect.com/tai-chi-...paul-chen.html

    Tai Chi swords are double-edged and straight. Katanas have a single edge and are slightly curved.

    These two kinds of swords require two vastly different techniques to use them properly.
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    The release notes themselves are essentially the same as was seen on Lamannia most recently.
    This^, in so many words, is how you say time and feedback on Lamannia are wasted.

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    So skip the WSS feat for now, and just let me take Longswords as a centered weapon. Clubs too maybe, so all the cleric/monk splashes can be in stances while dropping blade barriers.

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