WF Hagglebot build?

[Thailand_Dan]

Hey! Was wondering if someone can point me in the direction of a WF hagglebot UMD build. Backup healer, buffer, and songs. UMD to raise a cleric, but not too important. CC bores me, so other than disco ball, no thx. Simple melee. Ideas?

[Comfortably]

ummm, whats the point of WF?

[MISchef]

The challenge of with a uber low starting charisma!

[Thrudh]

Both UMD and haggle are CHA based skills... WF get a penalty to Charisma... I'm not seeing the logic...

Still, it's a small penalty... Just follow any warchanter build on these forums, and you'll be fine...

[Comfortably]

CC bores me, so other than disco ball, no thx. Simple melee. Ideas?

Any bard with Disco ball=gimp.

[Thailand_Dan]

Why WF? Well, basically I'm in Forged Legion on Sarlona, so if your alts are not WF, they don't get in. As far as CHA skills, I hear yah, but I have 2 capped WF sorc (one a 28pt) and both have CHA over 30. I know a WF won't be of quwiji mart hagglebot status, but I would think it could still be reasonably good to feed my ranger wands and pots.

Currently, all my attempts at making a Bard die around level 10. I just get bored and roll something else. If I am running with my guildies, I am pretty sure I can level him to cap. Once I'm around level 12, I could just run reaver's until I get into the vale. After that, who doesn't want a bard in a shroud run?

Make sense?

Honestly, I've never followed a build, before. On a WF sorc, it's pretty easy, min/max CHA and CON. Spells, I know that from experience. Feats/Enhancements, pretty simple. Having a build will hopefully stop me from gimping him, and rerolling, yet again. THx

[LeslieWest_GuitarGod]

Since nobody stepped up, I'm going to give this a shot for ya Thailand.

If you insist on going WF, my answer to -2 CHA is increasing your INT. +16 INT gives you 16 more skill points to play with (and 4 more each level!). Now you can go after haggle and UMD... and have plenty of skill points left over to give your warforged some... SKILLS.

Starting stats:
10, 8, 14, 16, 6, 16.

For enhancements focus on healing early, and haggle later.

For skills pump Haggle, UMD, and anything else you like.

Feats: Toughness, Mental Toughness (this will take care of the -2 CHA hit), Skill Focus Haggle, Skill Focus UMD, and anything else ya like.

I threw it into a planner quick. It doesnt look bad. I would simply ignore spell pen all together and focus on haggle, healing, and buffs. Your mental toughness and skill focus feats will take care of the -2 CHA.

[Thailand_Dan]

Thx for the advice. I'll be rolling him up this week.

[spifflove]

You are probably caped by now, but this is what I would do:

18 + level ups
08
16
08
08
14

1: greatax
3: PA
6: wf slash
9: ic slash
12: thf
15 ithf
18 gthf

You will lose out on about 12 haggle vs Mississippi Queen but because of the law of diminishing returns (>24 haggle) you will still have top notch haggle and a very fun build.

Or you can go this way:

1bard/19 sorcer

16 con
16 intel
16 charisma + level ups

You will lose about 13 haggle vis Mississippi Queen (still not taking skill focus haggle)

Any wf will lose 6 haggle vs Mississippi Queen. so the above haggle differences are not as big as the appear.