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    Default Evasion & Improved Evasion while held :O

    Tho this may be common knowledge to many it is something i just recently discovered. While held in place, this means everything from ghoul touch and earthgrab to hold monster, both of these feat are bypassed. So u will take full damage if a caster is throwing damage spells at u and half damage if u save.

    I noticed this when I went to finish off Taming the Flames on elite yesterday and could not figure out why I was getting so badly damaged by the first spawn of Air Mephits and Earth Ele's. I then went back and read my combat log and noticed everytime they managed to get an earthgrab on me....which btw happens far more often than u may think even with a great reflex save.....that the air mephits lightning bolts were doing half damage to me even tho I was making all my saves. This really add's up quick, and this was on a level 13 monk btw if ur thinking I only had regular evasion. I had improved evasion at the time this was happening.

    Just a heads up to players who may of not been aware of this. This is something that will definately get u killed very quickly if ur solo'ing.

    BTW another thing kind of off topic, I noticed the air mephs at close range spam shocking grasp, and went to look up the description on that spell in the player manual and noticed it can be hieghtend. I'm sure the mephs weren't using that meta, but can this spell be hieghtened to a point where it goes beyond doing the max 5 levels of damage.....say if u were a 8th lvl sorc and had on hieghten would u do max 8 levels damage instead of topping out at 5?

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    heighten only effects the dc of spells, not the damage.

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    Another trick some mephits have is Sneak Attacks. I remember doing Co6 on Elite and fighting the mephits at the entrance of the second to last part. I was on my Ranger/Paladin who did not have Evasion yet, but he had gotten fire protect and resist. But I was dead in about a minute. Looking through my logs, I saw I was getting Sneak Attacked for 20-30 points of damage a pop.

    Now at 13th level you probably have Heavy Fort, but for those don't have it on while doing favor, they might be in for an unpleasant surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vVvAiaynAvVv View Post
    Tho this may be common knowledge to many it is something i just recently discovered. While held in place, this means everything from ghoul touch and earthgrab to hold monster, both of these feat are bypassed. So u will take full damage if a caster is throwing damage spells at u and half damage if u save.

    Evasion only takes effect while any dex/wis bonuses do. In otherwords-when you are not considered flat footed. So, in DDO as the combat system can hardly begin to imitate PnP-as far as I know you are only considered flatfooted while held (even by the hold monster spell! wonder if mod 9 fixes that?) on DDO.



    Quote Originally Posted by vVvAiaynAvVv View Post
    BTW another thing kind of off topic, I noticed the air mephs at close range spam shocking grasp, and went to look up the description on that spell in the player manual and noticed it can be hieghtend. I'm sure the mephs weren't using that meta, but can this spell be hieghtened to a point where it goes beyond doing the max 5 levels of damage.....say if u were a 8th lvl sorc and had on hieghten would u do max 8 levels damage instead of topping out at 5?


    Quote Originally Posted by Relenthe View Post
    heighten only effects the dc of spells, not the damage.
    Heighten increases the level of the spell. Which in turn increases the save modifier, spell level (for bypassing globe of invulnerability and what-have-ya), and of course spell penetration. Damage is only decided by your caster level in that particular caster class that granted the spell. The only metamagics to increase the damage-but nothing else- are empower and maximize.



    Quote Originally Posted by honkuimushi View Post
    Another trick some mephits have is Sneak Attacks. ....... they might be in for an unpleasant surprise.


    Yes some mephits do have sneak attack.

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    working as intended


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    Quote Originally Posted by epochofcrepuscule View Post
    Heighten increases the level of the spell. Which in turn increases the save modifier, spell level (for bypassing globe of invulnerability and what-have-ya), and of course spell penetration.
    Heighten does NOT increase Spell Penetration. See:
    http://www.ddoer.com/guide/max/spell-penetration
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