your spells for mod 9

[Samadhi]

In the real game, 95% of sorcerers don't have any shroud loot - let alone a 2ndary item like that (primary for most sorcs being the SP item).

If most sorcs really are making SP items before Ex Cha 3 items, then that scares me for player understanding of the game. I mean, what good is the extra mana, if mobs keep saving? I don't buy the "cast twice" approach working appropriately well.

[Lymnus]

Pondering the Greater Evoc Focus, I do believe that in Mod 9, with the cap being raised to 20, we might see Greater Spell Focus items. Now, obviously, this isn't factual information. But, the potential to get that makes me hesitate grinding black scales; at the moment, I'd rather finish my Greensteel items.

I did intend to make a Greensteel fire lore item, probably tempered, just to save a slot on my hands. But, if a sorc is making a SP item before a Exceptional Charisma item, I'd have to question their knowledge of how a sorcerer works.

I suppose now is the time I look through my 3's and 7's. 3's are probably Displacement, Haste, Rage, and Ray of Exh. Probably will lose Rage or Ray there. 7's are Otto's and Finger, which makes me ponder which to drop.

Meh. By cap, we'll have another 7, so it'll be good in the end.

[Shade]

I've heard mod9 has no new randomly generated loot-effects. Just higher level combinations of what we already have.

I mean if they put greater focus's in lootgen, they nearly completely gimp several raid quality items like the black robe, the black abbots staff and some others. Tho perhaps such loot could see an upgrade and the focuses will be in, who knows.

Re: lvl3 spells - yea drop exhaustion. You can use wave of exhaustion scrolls on every boss in the game, even Arraestrikos on elite with his 42 SR - Highest I know of, Sulomades has a lower SR. I landed a scroll on him last saturday actually.

7 - Ottos. Let the bards and wizards do this.

I see allot of Ottos in the shroud phase2/4... When really it isn't the best solution for the devils.. Heighten/Extend web is.
Because Ottos vs Web:
- Devils while dancing in the ottos can teleport out (they will only do this once every 6 seconds tho - if someone they are agro'd on is not nearby)
- Devils while webbed cannot teleport, and have lower AC
- Web ignores spell resistance, Ottos does not
- Reflex save vs Will. Tend to around even on devils but you can lower there reflex with a maladroit weapon quickly, no will lowering weapon.

[Lymnus]

Well, Llama didn't have any new effects, excluding those new named items. But, of course, that was a preview. Potential is there. I'll grind out my Greensteel items on my sorc. If, by that time, there's no Greater Focus Item, I'll start with the scales.

Agree with the scrolling Waves, particularly since Waves doesn't have a save. completely see your point.

However, Web doesn't reduce AC.

Creates a many-layered mass of strong, sticky strands that entangle targets within them. A successful Reflex save negates this effect. Entangled creatures may attempt to make a Strength check every 2 seconds to escape. Area of effect fire spells will destroy these webs and free any entangled creatures. Incorporeal creatures, oozes, and spiders are naturally immune. Fire elementals and other fire creatures are immune because they burn through the webs.

Besides that, yeah. I think you're right.

Thanks, bro. I'll try out your suggestions, and see how they work.