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    Default Yet another TWF battle Cleric

    I have always ran characters who are self healing/sufficient who only sought healing during the heat of battle.

    I have slowly built up enough +2 tomes now that I was thinking about building a evading battle cleric. I put some thought (for what its worth) into a build that looks good on paper but as always seek outside opinions on how to better structure the build.

    I chose dwarf for the extra toughness and dwarven axe enhancement line. I have not figured out the AC on him, but pressume it will be in the 40's. I think I might take advantage of the monk wisdom AC bonus though instead of going light armour.

    His main focus of course is to battle. He will use mass cure serious with group during mele and spot heal individuals when necessary. Offensive spells will be moot for the most part as I enjoy tanking, but like to help out when I can.

    I chose therefore a 13/2/1 Cleric/Monk/Fighter

    I didn't plan on putting the 1 level of fighter in, but in the end it helps me obtain GTWF.

    As such, is base stat line is:

    BASE END STAT
    STR: 16+2 tome = 18 28
    DEX: 15+2 tome = 17 23
    CON: 14+2 tome = 16 22
    INT: 8+2 tome = 10
    WIS: 12+2 tome = 14 22
    CHA: 12+2 tome = 14 20

    I guess I could take some ability points from CHA and put it into WIS but I read somewhere that Divine might plays a part with CHA? <shrugs> - i wouldnt mind some insight to that.

    Also - the only real offensive spells I plan on using will be symbol of persuasion and blade barrier - but I do not know how effective they will be.

    As such, please feel free to point out flaws and such because in the end - i dont want to waste all my tomes on 1 character only to find out I effed up an my evading battle cleric.
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    I have a similar build, except I do a lot more healing and casting so I started with more wis and less con.

    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=160279 is a link
    I didn't go the cha route for divine might which I sort of regret, if I could change it Imight drop wisdom to 14 and raise cha for it, othter than that I'm very happy with the build.
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    also consider dropping the fighter level, so whe nthe time comes you cna pick up warpriest 3, you'll lso9e gtwf til mod 9 and a feat, but I have a feelingit'll be worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valorik View Post
    I have a similar build, except I do a lot more healing and casting so I started with more wis and less con.

    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=160279 is a link
    I didn't go the cha route for divine might which I sort of regret, if I could change it Imight drop wisdom to 14 and raise cha for it, othter than that I'm very happy with the build.

    yeah you build is very similar excluding race. As such, should I keep the CHA at for Divine? how does that work exactly?

    As for heals, do you think I should be OK spamming cure serious during battles at end game? or is my wisdom to low for that? I amnot really familiar with how this all works for spell casting. I managed to bring a cleric up to level 7 but he was a healbot and I never got inot healing mastery or items, etc, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valorik View Post
    also consider dropping the fighter level, so whe nthe time comes you cna pick up warpriest 3, you'll lso9e gtwf til mod 9 and a feat, but I have a feelingit'll be worth it.

    warpriest? i better check that info out now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yajerman01 View Post
    yeah you build is very similar excluding race. As such, should I keep the CHA at for Divine? how does that work exactly?

    As for heals, do you think I should be OK spamming cure serious during battles at end game? or is my wisdom to low for that? I amnot really familiar with how this all works for spell casting. I managed to bring a cleric up to level 7 but he was a healbot and I never got inot healing mastery or items, etc, etc.
    it's a 1 minute clicky that gives for you probably +4 to damage, you should be able ot toss mass csw, I reccomend trying to get greater potency 7 on your armor, as it really helps, or at least put greater potency 6 on your greensteel (also beacon of tira is good if you run abbot).

    WArpreist was annonced to be coming, but not in mod 9.
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    Divine Might was +2/+4/+6/+8 (mod9, rank 4) damage modifier for 1min (every time consume a turn)

    My opinion was, if you really want to make your cha high enough to be able to use the Divine Might, you might consider make it to rank 2 or higher (means you need have 14 base cha or 13 at mod 9 assume you can get +3 cha unbound tome). But it can be a pain to arrange your ability point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samho View Post
    Divine Might was +2/+4/+6/+8 (mod9, rank 4) damage modifier for 1min (every time consume a turn)

    My opinion was, if you really want to make your cha high enough to be able to use the Divine Might, you might consider make it to rank 2 or higher (means you need have 14 base cha or 13 at mod 9 assume you can get +3 cha unbound tome). But it can be a pain to arrange your ability point.
    he's a dwarf so getting to 14 cha would cost 4 more ability points, basically dropping str to 14, or wis t o12 adn str to 12.
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    Forget about Divine Might.

    the costs in attribut poinbts are too high for the gain on your build. You will be way better of if you lower CHA by 6 and raise CON, WIS and INT by 2 each.


    More HP, SP, skill points (for some investment into Balance and Jump, besides maxing Concentration)
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    Drop the fighter level. Go Elf and use Rapiers -OR- figure out where to lose a feat and use Khopesh on the Dwarf. Either way, again, drop the fighter level.

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    What about going human for the extra feat at lvl 1???
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    No one that throws together a bunch of numbers and calls it fact is going to give you and real accurate answer, there's too many variables and it's all biased towards there own personal outlooks on how it should be, not how it is. Numbers are too easy to manipulate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yajerman01 View Post
    yeah you build is very similar excluding race. As such, should I keep the CHA at for Divine? how does that work exactly?
    Divine Might cutoffs are at BASE 14,16,18,20... You have a base CHA of 14, so the best you can get is Divine Might I (+2 to damage for 1 minute)

    With a dwarf, not worth it to pursue the Divine Might...

    As for heals, do you think I should be OK spamming cure serious during battles at end game? or is my wisdom to low for that? I amnot really familiar with how this all works for spell casting. I managed to bring a cleric up to level 7 but he was a healbot and I never got inot healing mastery or items, etc, etc.
    Do you mean mass cure serious?... You'll want to spam heals on yourself... And you'll want the Quicken feat to make sure the spells go off (since you'll be in combat).

    If you've never played a cleric to high level before, DO NOT use the tomes until you get to level 12 or so... You can use the INT Tome right away if you want the extra skill points, but do not use the other tomes until you're sure this character design works...
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    Here's a similar build I put together and have since capped:
    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=169896

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