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    Quote Originally Posted by Inspire View Post
    Since these shouldnt exist, do you have a SS?
    my apologies they are +3 not +4 haven't played my monk in awhile
    Quote Originally Posted by MadFloyd View Post
    Fernando has yet to even suggest a nerf of anything.
    Oh and by the way (referring to your sig), we aren't nerfing the Torc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by h616011 View Post
    i have to say anything maladriot and anythign flaming/holy burst are my current fav's.

    i do however have a question i been meanin to ask for awhile now, Recently i was handed a pair of wraps with plain ol' +4. nothing more- the interesting thing bout them? - they were min lvl req 16 ( and priced accordingly ). what in the world are the dev's smoking- and can i have some

    to make maters even more macabre - couple of nights ago i looted a plain ol' +5 wrap, min lvl req... (wait for it ). . .
    (wait for it )... lvl 8! ( priced accordingly ) .. LOL now tell me THAT MAKES sense!

    +4 wrap of plainness = min lvl 16...fascinating.
    +5 wrap of plainness = min lvl 8 ...shake-head amazing.
    giving the +5 to my soon to be new baby halfling 32 pt build at a tender age of 8 = priceless.


    ( to answer the thought in preemptive fashion- yes i even tried tossing each in the stoen of change to see if there was more to them than meets the eye ( kick it Transformers song oh yeah )- not one thing changed. )

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    The +5 handwraps min level 8 are correct. In case you did not know, +5 weapons and armor are ALL min level 8 unless they are RR or hiding a broken effect like your +4 wraps. The +4 wraps should be min level 6.

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    It's time for this again:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikuryo View Post
    The +5 handwraps min level 8 are correct. In case you did not know, +5 weapons and armor are ALL min level 8 unless they are RR or hiding a broken effect like your +4 wraps. The +4 wraps should be min level 6.
    just curious - might ya know how i could find out what "hidden" effect might be underneath my +4 wraps of wierdness? i tried putting in stone of change dealio- nothing changed ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by h616011 View Post
    i have to say anything maladriot and anythign flaming/holy burst are my current fav's.

    i do however have a question i been meanin to ask for awhile now, Recently i was handed a pair of wraps with plain ol' +4. nothing more- the interesting thing bout them? - they were min lvl req 16 ( and priced accordingly ). what in the world are the dev's smoking- and can i have some

    to make maters even more macabre - couple of nights ago i looted a plain ol' +5 wrap, min lvl req... (wait for it ). . .
    (wait for it )... lvl 8! ( priced accordingly ) .. LOL now tell me THAT MAKES sense!

    +4 wrap of plainness = min lvl 16...fascinating.
    +5 wrap of plainness = min lvl 8 ...shake-head amazing.
    giving the +5 to my soon to be new baby halfling 32 pt build at a tender age of 8 = priceless.


    ( to answer the thought in preemptive fashion- yes i even tried tossing each in the stoen of change to see if there was more to them than meets the eye ( kick it Transformers song oh yeah )- not one thing changed. )

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    Maybe it's the brand? One is from Target..the other from...Macys?
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    Quote Originally Posted by h616011 View Post
    just curious - might ya know how i could find out what "hidden" effect might be underneath my +4 wraps of wierdness? i tried putting in stone of change dealio- nothing changed ....
    ssecret
    This was a problem with weapons a year or 2 ago. Some of the randomly generated effects were not showing up on the weapon for one reason or another. They never fully explained it but I wonder if the random loot generator was making things like puncturing blunt weapons but removing the puncturing when it found the weapon type was not compatible, or bone braking piercers, etc. They fixed it a couple of months later but it looks like the same bug showed up when they added handwraps to the game. There is no way to find out what effect could have been on the weapon or to try and recover whatever effect it was. When they get around to fixing it, the fix will not be retroactive either. Your level 16 +4 handwraps are just worth more to a broker, nothing you can do will recover whatever the effect it could have had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by h616011 View Post
    i have to say anything maladriot and anythign flaming/holy burst are my current fav's.

    i do however have a question i been meanin to ask for awhile now, Recently i was handed a pair of wraps with plain ol' +4. nothing more- the interesting thing bout them? - they were min lvl req 16 ( and priced accordingly ). what in the world are the dev's smoking- and can i have some

    to make maters even more macabre - couple of nights ago i looted a plain ol' +5 wrap, min lvl req... (wait for it ). . .
    (wait for it )... lvl 8! ( priced accordingly ) .. LOL now tell me THAT MAKES sense!

    +4 wrap of plainness = min lvl 16...fascinating.
    +5 wrap of plainness = min lvl 8 ...shake-head amazing.
    giving the +5 to my soon to be new baby halfling 32 pt build at a tender age of 8 = priceless.


    ( to answer the thought in preemptive fashion- yes i even tried tossing each in the stoen of change to see if there was more to them than meets the eye ( kick it Transformers song oh yeah )- not one thing changed. )

    Ssecret
    If you look closely at the hardness and durability, you should see a difference, and thats why those items have a bigger ml requirement.

    for most items, its not a very welcome addition, and really just ruins the item, but for some, it's ok.

    It's like a built in adamantine ritual, but it bumps the level req.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaamis View Post
    If you look closely at the hardness and durability, you should see a difference, and thats why those items have a bigger ml requirement.

    for most items, its not a very welcome addition, and really just ruins the item, but for some, it's ok.

    It's like a built in adamantine ritual, but it bumps the level req.
    Actually the higher hardness and durability is a feature of all items with higher minimum levels. As the + on an item goes up the durability and hardness also go up. All of my min level 14 handwraps are Durability 120 hardness 11 and all my min level 16 handwraps are durability 130 hardness 12. As I said its normally a matter of a weapon effect not showing up the way its supposed to for some reason. I actually saw a pair of +2 handwraps min level 10 on the broker last night. Since a min level of 10 means the weapon should have a total + of 6, this means that a +4 effect or some combo of lesser effects were missing from the item.

    Looking at the broker right now there is a pair of +5 Shock handwraps on the broker with a ML of 12. The effects are +6 but the ML leads to a total of +7 so there is a +1 suffix ability like pure good missing from these handwraps. This does not really happen with other weapons anymore but if you look at the ML of handwraps and the total + of the effects on the wraps you will find that its not uncommon for there to be a + or more missing.

    Its also possible that the items like these +2 handwraps were supposed to have focus effects on them but those are not working correctly with them.

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