Buying Bloodstone

[Shade]

Offer: 425Kpp

(around what you'd get on the auction house for selling it for 600k after fees)

Seems fair as average AH price i've seen lately has been 400-700k.

[Mts]

FYI - 425kp is too low. I've been selling them on the forums for about 600kp.

[cdbd3rd]

FYI - 425kp is too low. I've been selling them on the forums for about 600kp.

Depends on the timing. One I auctioned on forums 6-8 months ago topped at 450k plat. Granted was on a different server's marketplace.

[Mts]

Depends on the timing. One I auctioned on forums 6-8 months ago topped at 450k plat. Granted was on a different server's marketplace.

Lol ya have to compare apples to apples. Other servers have entirely different economies.

I personally wouldn't sell for less than 600kp.

[Invalid_82]

To be fair Mts, it is as you state ... you personally wouldn't sell one for less than 600k pp. Not too sure why you go out of your way to enter another persons thread to make a comment like that, the economy seems paralyzed by people doing just that. Tek's weapon thread comes to mind. It is not as if Shade is looking to rip someone off, and you are warning a would be sucker, his number is competitive to the number a seller would get selling on the ah after fees. You say to be fair "Lol ya have to compare apples to apples. Other servers have entirely different economies." Server's don't have economies people do - you are merely one person in a much larger collective that makes up the economy here. I don't mean this as an attack - but your opinion is so far from the reality of what the entire server of Khyber think - that your statement could not be more out of line in another persons trade thread.

The ah is overloaded with bloodstones, there is more supply then demand and prices are going down for this item - those are the facts in my opinion. I have purchased a bloodstone recently for my melee alt for less then Shade is offering in this thread - and both myself and the seller felt it was a fair market price. Did the seller get ripped off? That is for him to decide - but in my mind his bloodstone wasnt one of the ones sitting on the ah overpriced and never selling. I am sure you will disagree and thats fine, thats the fun part of the economics of the game - but why come into someone else's thread to make your point - start up a thread and discuss it there if you like - but why derail someones marketplace thread with your opinion - which is not absolute fact. The fact is there are no facts - the marketplace is a loose reflection of perceived values. You are in the market to make money - others are there to gear up there alts and see things differently then you - let those people enjoy the economy to.

[Shade]

lol i go thru the trouble of pre-explaining exactly why it is a fair price and I get all these nonsense bumps. Guy in my group just said he purchased one for 400kpp this week. So just because YOU feel you want more, does not mean you should be posting here.

Well thanks for the bumps guys.

[Aspenor]

450 is a completely reasonable price.

/bumps for shade

[Invalid_82]

Even if it wasn't your posting Shade, I would have the same opinion - but as a bud of mine and another long time barb player - I have to come to your defence in what is a fair price you are offering. If I had an extra I would just give it to you, unfort I don't and your price is good - I am sure you will get one soon.

[Shade]

While I appreciate the effort Kittya.. In general I believe in our game of marketplace capitalism that attempting to haggle either way, in favor or against a potentially seller you may or may not even know, is kind of in poor taste.

In my opinion it is entirely up to the potential seller to decide if this meets his demands or not, and his right to attempt to haggle a better deal.

But I gather none of you are actually selling a bloodstone...

[Gornn]

450 is a completely reasonable price.

/bumps for shade

Maybe on Argonessen. But, all server economies are different.

The Khyber forum average sale fluctuates between about 550 and 700k. That has been pretty steady for quite some time. Lorich, and Boldrin who've sold more bloodstones than anyone I know, used to sell them for between those prices (Lorich used to like to get rid of them quickly IIRC hence the 550 and Boldrin tended toward taking the higher exchange).

MTS simply pointed out that it might be a challenge to get a Bloodstone for 425 here on the forums, where the averages have been established for some time.

Nobody needs to agree with him jumping in; in my view he was just trying to help Shade get a bloodstone, which Shade has been trying to nab for a while (2 posts on the subject).

He only followed up with "I wouldn't sell my bloodstone for less than 600" in response to someone from a different forum trying to equate their economy with ours. It doesn't work that way. To jump on him for suggesting 425 is too low, after responding to someone from a different server isn't fair, really.

Will it be impossible to get one for 425? Obviously not, people do it. It's been stated twice, by Shade and Prey that it's happened recently. So I don't doubt that it can.

As many people have noticed there has been a big spike in the number of Bloodstones on the auction house. You used to see one or two for outrageous prices, but now they're FAR more common. I looked a couple days ago and there were 10 or 12 on there, something I haven't seen for a while.

So that will inevitably drive prices down. (I honestly think the plat farmers have found a way back into the game, hence the resurgence of plat spam and bloodstones on the AH)

Bottom line: Shade's offer is reasonable at 425. And I have no doubt he will eventually be able to snag a stone for it. It just might take a bit longer, thats all.

Which is a synthesis of everyone's points.

Good luck!

[Mts]

*edit* Gornn said it better than I.

All very fair and valid points, even if I disagree with some of them.

Good luck to ya man if you can buy one for that price. Here's another free bump

[Aspenor]

Maybe on Argonessen. But, all server economies are different.
*snipped for brevity of post*

Typically on Argo the Bloodstone is posted for 800k-1.1mil on the AH. These never sell.

More than likely your economy here is no different from the one on argo.

[Gornn]

Typically on Argo the Bloodstone is posted for 800k-1.1mil on the AH. These never sell.

More than likely your economy here is no different from the one on argo.

Nobody was talking about the Auction House.

Good luck on the hunt, Shade! If I come across a spare stone I'll let you know.

[Invalid_82]

I believe that only a small fraction of us use these forums to buy and sell compared to a much larger majority that use the ah and swapping within guild and friend circles.

450k to many players is a tremendous amount of money - to many of us that post here in the marketplace forums its something but not much. Sometimes we have to put ourselves in check - because inflation sucks hehe!

[Lorichie]

Shade, if you havent gotten one yet send me a pm. i havent been playing much but i'll pop on for next couple days to farm you one. i'll sell it to you for your price point that you want just because i can.

i'm really surprised no one else has done this already...have we really gotten to the point where 200k plat, especially present company included, is such a large amount that at least half of us horde our goodies? Not a flame tho i dont really care if its taken as such, i'm just kinda surprised that this is occurring.

pm me shade if you still need one...

R

[Invalid_82]

Well said L

I guess that's the point I am trying to make - is as of late - people are coming in and derailing other peoples threads - argruing prices back and forth - sometimes in a civil manor sometimes less civil. The people arguing these points are sometimes amongst the richest people and it is usually these people arguing things need to be priced higher. I personally don't like seeing it, we are all a community and though the mood has been very negative lately all throughout the forums for the most part, seeing good people fighting over prices in a game where two people have the capacity to create a mutually beneficial trade is depressing frankly. A big part of this game is enjoying the hunt to gear your guys how you want to. We dont go to the store and buy bloodstones where you pay the shelf price wheter you like it or not - and THANK GOODNESS for that!!! I feel that if people want to flip items for profit thats all good, amass wealth thats great, however going into other peoples threads and attempting to tell it how it is .. is too far.

If Mts wanted to help Shade truely, he could have easily sent him a PM letting him know that in his opinion 450k might be low and that 600k is more what he feels is the value. Thats great and could be seen as helpful - but blazing into a thread and telling it how it is - how could that be interepreted as helping anyone but the person trying to frequently flip bloodstones for 600k? Lets not let greed destroy our community - we dont need to become the real world here in our escape.

This is the last I will say in any marketplace forums either way, I hope that we can keep our marketplace threads related to the buyer and seller and let them do there own bartering - I think that should be a general courtesy between all of us.

[Mts]

Youch.. Last time I try to help someone out by letting them know their offer was too low lol.

I wasn't at all trying to derail his thread or knock him down a peg - I was letting him know (someone I hadn't seen posting in the market forums before) what the usual going rate is for a bloodstone, instead of letting his thread sit empty and him wondering why he wasn't getting any bites.

Either way, like I said - if you can find someone to sell it to you for 450kp, that's awesome and more power to you. I'm just saying that it will be hard to find a seller that will go that low.

Don't mix me up as a miser, I'm the guy that would give you one for free if I had an extra laying around.

[InfidelofHaLL]

shade hit me up ingame i got one i will sell you right now for that amount its just sitting in the bank

[Lifeblood]

lol i go thru the trouble of pre-explaining exactly why it is a fair price and I get all these nonsense bumps. Guy in my group just said he purchased one for 400kpp this week. So just because YOU feel you want more, does not mean you should be posting here.

Well thanks for the bumps guys.

I traded one for 2 Cigarettes.. I guess I should have held out for more...but I was happy as was the recipient of the bloodstone

[Lorichie]

shade hit me up ingame i got one i will sell you right now for that amount its just sitting in the bank

I did pull one tonight for you as well Shade, If it falls thru with Inf. let me know, its sitting there if you need it.

R