Proposal; Kensai/Juggernaut Concept

[Inspire]

This is a build designed for the release of the Juggernaut PrE, it also brings exceptional DPS and tactics to any party.


True Neutral - Warforged Male - 20 Fighter


Stats;

Str; 17Base +2Tome +2Enhancement +3Crafted +6Item +5Level +1Litany = 36Str (+4Tome = 38)
Dex; 15Base +2Tome +6Item +1Litany = 24Dex
Con; 15Base +2Tome +1Enhancement +6Item +1Gnawed +1Litany +2Crafted = 28Con (+4Tome = 30)
Int; 11Base +2Tome = 13Int
Wis; 9Base +1Tome +6Item = 16Wis (+3Tome = 18)
Cha; 6Base +2Tome = 8Cha

Ac(DR Mode);

10Base
08Body
01Dex
07Docent
05Protection
(10Shield)
(5Insight)
(3Dodge)
(5CE)
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31(54)Ac


Hps;

200 Fighter
180Constitution
020Heroic
010Draconic
022Toughness
060Enhancement
030GFL
045Crafted
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567(587 with +4Tome)


Combat DC's;

Improved Trip -
14Base
03Kensai
03Enhancement
13Strength
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33
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10Vertigo +10
04Powersurge
01Rage
01Madstone
01Madstone Effects
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50

Stunning Blow -
10Base
03Kensai
03Enhancement
13Strength
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29
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04Powersurge
01Rage
01Madstone
01Madstone Effects
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36


Gear;

Helm - Mineral2 (45Hps)
Necklace - Verick's
Trinket - Litany
Cloak - Wretched Twilight
Belt - Vorne's
Ring(Left) - Vorne's (+2Con)
Gloves - Dexterity 6
Boots - Madstone
Ring(Right) - Verick's (+2Str)
Bracers - Levick's
Goggles - Mentau's Goggles

Off-Hand - Lightning Strike (Shock/Good Burst/Shocking Blast)
Main-Hand - Lightning Strike(Shock/Good Burst/Shocking Blast)

DT Docent - Resistance 5/Corrosive Salt/Radiance Guard(Levick's)


Intimidate(Possible);

22(23)Ranks
15Item
02Luck
03Kensai
(2Charisma)
(6Crafted)
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37(51)Intimidate

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Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male
(20 Fighter) 
Hit Points: 382
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 9
Will: 6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             17                    26
Dexterity            15                    17
Constitution         15                    18
Intelligence         11                    13
Wisdom                9                    10
Charisma              6                     8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                     9
Bluff                -2                    -1
Concentration         2                     4
Diplomacy            -2                    -1
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -2                    -1
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                  2                    -2
Intimidate            2                    22
Jump                  3                    21
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently         2                    -2
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     1
Search                1                     1
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  3                    -2
Tumble                3                    -1
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Adamantine Body
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting


Level 5 (Fighter)


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 7 (Fighter)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Quick Draw


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 17 (Fighter)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Trip
Feat: (Selected) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 19 (Fighter)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Fighter Weapon Alacrity
Enhancement: Kensei Khopesh Mastery I
Enhancement: Kensei Khopesh Mastery II
Enhancement: Kensei Khopesh Mastery III
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei III
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) II
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) II
Enhancement: Fighter Khopesh Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Khopesh Specialization II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack III
Enhancement: Warforged Tactics I

Note; All Stats/Ac/Hps/Etc are unbuffed.

[baddax]

looks nice. not normally a big WF fan myself but this build looks interesting. What does the combination kensai/juggernaught give you?

[BlackSteel]

noone knows yet, no info released on DDO's implementation of juggernaut

I started rolling a WF sorc with addy body in preparation tho; no rush tho as mod 10 is likely a year away

[Ghoste]

A crucial part of balancing the juggernaut in PnP is they get improved fortification as a free feat, which means no healing, which means healing amplification items don't do much good, not to mention healer's friend enhancements. Turbine may choose not to implement them that way, but I personally feel that is doubtful.

[Inspire]

A crucial part of balancing the juggernaut in PnP is they get improved fortification as a free feat, which means no healing, which means healing amplification items don't do much good, not to mention healer's friend enhancements. Turbine may choose not to implement them that way, but I personally feel that is doubtful.

Since we are getting Mass Repair I would agree, but untill it is introduced I'll take as much Healing Amp as I can.

[Wu_Jen]

Also isn't Juggernaut going to be under fighter? I.e. like Stalwart Defender for dwarves being under fighter, or Arcane Archer being under Ranger? If so then wouldn't you be prevented from having it and Kensai at the same time? I.e. same way a elven ranger cant grab tempest and elven AA at the same time.

Just a thought. I really wish they would decouple the Race PrE's from the Class PrE's.

[Monkey_Archer]

Also isn't Juggernaut going to be under fighter? I.e. like Stalwart Defender for dwarves being under fighter, or Arcane Archer being under Ranger? If so then wouldn't you be prevented from having it and Kensai at the same time? I.e. same way a elven ranger cant grab tempest and elven AA at the same time.

Just a thought. I really wish they would decouple the Race PrE's from the Class PrE's.

Interesting point....
All other racial PrEs are also class PrEs...

The 3rd fighter PrE is supposed to be Purple dragon knight...
If warforged are going to get juggernaut, and its not going to count as any class PrE, I suspect that it will be very restrictive and/or have high prereqs...
Improved fortification will most lkely be a requirement... not a free feat.

[BlackSteel]

they've already stated that jugger will count as a barb PrE for those who take it





which is really really really confusing considering their favored class is fighter

[Taelan]

Yeah, I would think that Juggernaut would have to be uncoupled from any of the classes, after all I couldn't very well see any other race acquire Juggernaut.

Halfling Juggernaut anyone? I don't think so. Also, in the same post where Eladrin told us about Juggernaut he told us about another racial PrE that I can't really see tied to a class -- Dragonmarked Heir.

I think it would be fairly safe to assume that you will be able to combine any class PrE with the racial PrE's, Juggernaut or Dragonmarked Heir, when they are finally released.

Just my two cents.

[Ghoste]

Also isn't Juggernaut going to be under fighter? I.e. like Stalwart Defender for dwarves being under fighter, or Arcane Archer being under Ranger? If so then wouldn't you be prevented from having it and Kensai at the same time? I.e. same way a elven ranger cant grab tempest and elven AA at the same time.

Just a thought. I really wish they would decouple the Race PrE's from the Class PrE's.

Possibly. However, the most famous juggernaut in Eberron lore, The Lord of Blades, does not have a single level of fighter. He is all artificer up until getting that BaB of 5 requirement.

[Inspire]

Also isn't Juggernaut going to be under fighter?

Barbarian.

[QuantumFX]

noone knows yet, no info released on DDO's implementation of juggernaut

Tell me about it. I’m really interested in rolling up a Stalwart Defender/Warforged Juggernaut build so I can go on raids and intimidate the purple named by asking them “Don’t you know who I am?!? I’m the juggernaut! *****!”

[Inspire]

Tell me about it.

Sure!

[Shroonith]

i would not go pure ftr and kensai 3 for this if your planning to take a second prestige. you wont have enough ap. kensai 3 costs something like 15(4+4+4+2+1) AP, almost a fifth of you total AP, and 1 feat over kensai 2.

Id really consider 12ftr/6rng/2barb for some basic barb rage bonuses which are likely to stack with juggernaughts barb stuff.

Also consider some monk splash like 12ftr/6rng/2mnk or even 14ftr/6mnk(extra feat, stance 2 and extra action boost2 and 20movespeed, possible mnk prestige 1) or 12ftr/8mnk(extra base fist dmg, saves, and healing amp compared to 6mnk) which could possibly synergize with juggernaughts unarmed and grabble bonuses. Only take mnk if adamantine body is not a hard prerequisite for the prestige.

[Uska]

Also isn't Juggernaut going to be under fighter? I.e. like Stalwart Defender for dwarves being under fighter, or Arcane Archer being under Ranger? If so then wouldn't you be prevented from having it and Kensai at the same time? I.e. same way a elven ranger cant grab tempest and elven AA at the same time.

Just a thought. I really wish they would decouple the Race PrE's from the Class PrE's.

I thought juggernaut was under barbarian so you might be able to take both

[QuantumFX]

Sure!

Um… you realize that Turbine doesn’t follow the letter (or the spirit) of most of the prestige classes it chooses to turn into PrE’s. (examples: Kensai, Tempest, Stalwart Defender, Arcane Archer) So that page doesn’t help.

[FluffyCalico]

I am having trouble fitting in all the action points just for Kensai, tuffness, and the capstone. Good luck getting Juggernaught in there too.

[Inspire]

Um… you realize that Turbine doesn’t follow the letter (or the spirit) of most of the prestige classes it chooses to turn into PrE’s. (examples: Kensai, Tempest, Stalwart Defender, Arcane Archer) So that page doesn’t help.

You wanted to know about Juggernaut...that link shows you what a Eberron Juggernaut it is... and what it will "most likely" be based off of.

Do you have a better page?

[Inspire]

I am having trouble fitting in all the action points just for Kensai, tuffness, and the capstone. Good luck getting Juggernaught in there too.

I have all the prereqs for Kensai III listed in his Character Sheet, from there I get 16 more Ap to play around with and only plan on taking Fighter Strength III and the Capstone which leaves me with 8.

Ditching Healer' Friend = 12Ap

I dont mind losing a few Trip(3Ap) or Toughness(3Ap) enhancements either.

For a net of 10 + 12 + 3 + 3 = 20-26Ap which I would assume will be enough to qualify.

[FluffyCalico]

I have all the prereqs for Kensai III listed in his Character Sheet, from there I get 16 more Ap to play around with and only plan on taking Fighter Strength III and the Capstone which leaves me with 8.

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You need
Fighter Attack Boost IV, Fighter Critical Accuracy IV and are you not taking Kensai Mastery I-III?