Proposal; Kensai/Juggernaut Concept

[Inspire]

You need
Fighter Attack Boost IV, Fighter Critical Accuracy IV and are you not taking Kensai Mastery I-III?

Yeah Just double checked that...

So with the Original 16Ap that becomes null(6Str, 2Cap, 4Boost, 4CA) 20-26 = 12-18, and Kensai Mastery 1Ap per tier correct? That drops the total from 12-18 to 9-15. 9-15 may not be enough for Juggernaut, but you could go a step further(with this build) and lose WF; Tactics II for 4Ap and if worse really came to worse ditch Fighter Strength III and settle with 36Base Str.

Which would leave;
9-15 + 4 = 13-19 or 19-25Ap which would then perhaps leave room for extra Action Boost I and II.

Its going to be tight Im well aware, but hopefully worth it.


To be quite honest I wouldnt even mind losing Fighters STR II and III, sure Id lose +1 to-hit and damage but Id gain 10Ap.

[FluffyCalico]

Yeah Just double checked that...

So with the Original 16Ap that becomes null(6Str, 2Cap, 4Boost, 4CA) 20-26 = 12-18, and Kensai Mastery 1Ap per tier correct? That drops the total from 12-18 to 9-15. 9-15 may not be enough for Juggernaut, but you could go a step further(with this build) and lose WF; Tactics II for 4Ap and if worse really came to worse ditch Fighter Strength III and settle with 36Base Str.

Which would leave;
9-15 + 4 = 13-19 or 19-25Ap which would then perhaps leave room for extra Action Boost I and II.

Its going to be tight Im well aware, but hopefully worth it.

Agree I am going fighter capstone with kensai and its tight. Another 4 AP would really help me out lol

[Shroonith]

AP is a big issue,
total cost for WF-PA, kensai III, capstone, haste boost 4, extra action boost II, weapon spec II,and ftr STR 3:
6,31,2,10,6,3,12: 70. Costs so much that its better to go without kensai III.

Ill recommend it again:
12ftr,6rng,2barb. since kensai III costs 15AP more than kensai II, and you cant take extra action boost II and specialization 2, or capstone, you free up 23 (more than a quarter) of your build points.

Youd spend some on the following:
4 for tempest, 3 for FE dmg, maybe 2 for rng DEX, 1 for barb PA, 2 barb CON, 1 for extend rage, 1 for extra rage:
14, leaving you with 9 points for things like toughness, WF con, healers friend, and improved DR and eventually 8 of those can go to Juggernaught.

[Inspire]

Agree I am going fighter capstone with kensai and its tight. Another 4 AP would really help me out lol

The hardest part for most will be when does 10Hps >/= XAp.

I think that perhaps we should only need Fighter Boost; Attack and CA at tier 1 for the first PrE and 2nd for the next, Etc.

[QuantumFX]

You wanted to know about Juggernaut...that link shows you what a Eberron Juggernaut it is... and what it will "most likely" be based off of.

Do you have a better page?

No. And that illustrates how you completely missed the point of both of my posts in this thread. /facepalm.

[Inspire]

No. And that illustrates how you completely missed the point of both of my posts in this thread. /facepalm.

Sorry? How was I supposed to take it?

[Comfortably]

Whats your DR looking like? (sorry if it was already posted and I missed it)

[Khurse]

Also (if I may be so n00bish- have no xp with WF melees) why that docent instead of the popular Defiance?
Wouldn't the dr help more?

[QuantumFX]

Sorry? How was I supposed to take it?

I was agreeing with Blacksteel's assessment that it’s pointless to try and build around a PrE that hasn’t even been previewed yet. Look at how well Turbine implemented “Dwarves will be able to take Stalwart Defender like Elves can currently take Arcane Archer.” We don’t know what Turbine is going to focus on, how they’re going to implement it, or if it will only work as an option for Warforged barbarians. There's also a lot of aspects of the PrC that can’t be converted over to DDO. Examples: Armor Spikes, Bull Rush/Charge

Now. Go to YouTube and look up “I’m the juggernaut b***h”. After you watch it visualize a Warforged Stalwart Defender/Juggernaut running around Stormreach taunting bosses with some of the lines from that video. Don’t forget to add a candy (pimp) cane to the imagery.

[Inspire]

Whats your DR looking like? (sorry if it was already posted and I missed it)

Depending on how I end up spending my Ap, anywhere from 2-5 base I suppose, 6 if I grab one of the feats(debating).

[Inspire]

Also (if I may be so n00bish- have no xp with WF melees) why that docent instead of the popular Defiance?
Wouldn't the dr help more?

Ill be wearing the DoD untill I get my cleansed shroud item(or I use the cleansed unbound helm I have already in my bank), the DT Docent just allows for more room/options with my accessories.

[Comfortably]

I have a question about the healing amp for this build, you have both the Finger Necklace (10%) and the DT docent on for another 10%, do they stack? I thought that if they were the same amount they didn't.

[Inspire]

I have a question about the healing amp for this build, you have both the Finger Necklace (10%) and the DT docent on for another 10%, do they stack? I thought that if they were the same amount they didn't.

They stack, and the only reason they do is because Fleshmaker on the Finger Necklace is a different type of healing amplification.

[Inspire]

Updated for level 20.