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    Default Manyshot cool-down enhancement

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    Would it be possible to use an enhancement line to reduce the cool-down or lengthen the duration of manyshot? It could be similar to the barbarian rage or bard song extension lines. The ranger capstone is nice for an actual ranged ranger, but it's a loooooooong way to level 20. Perhaps reducing the cool-down or extending the duration of manyshot would make some of the cool bows in the game useful for longer than 20 seconds every couple of minutes.
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    Yeah, please do something to help out those poor, underpowered rangers. Being the most powerful melee and ranged character just isn't enough. Maybe shortening the cooldown on this free feat will make someone actually play a ranger for a change. There just aren't enough of 'em!

    And after fixing broken rangers, Turbine needs to get to work on Clerics. My blade barriers only do 240 damage per pass.

    The solution is probably pets. Now that Clerics can summon Arraetrikos, shouldn't rangers be able to summon Xyxxy?

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    /NOT signed.

    IF you're going to impliment something like this, then take AWAY the Capstone. Having both would be madness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draccus View Post
    Yeah, please do something to help out those poor, underpowered rangers. Being the most powerful melee and ranged character just isn't enough. Maybe shortening the cooldown on this free feat will make someone actually play a ranger for a change. There just aren't enough of 'em!
    True, true. But just because it was brought up doesn't mean us Rangers are not going to try and get it. Give me more, give me more.

    Not to worry, if it's implemented in Mod 10 it would just be nerf'd in Mod 11

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    Make it a generic enhancement. Just make it require Manyshot and level 8/12/16/20 or something with a reduction each tier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draccus View Post
    Yeah, please do something to help out those poor, underpowered rangers. Being the most powerful melee and ranged character just isn't enough. Maybe shortening the cooldown on this free feat will make someone actually play a ranger for a change. There just aren't enough of 'em!

    And after fixing broken rangers, Turbine needs to get to work on Clerics. My blade barriers only do 240 damage per pass.

    The solution is probably pets. Now that Clerics can summon Arraetrikos, shouldn't rangers be able to summon Xyxxy?

    I sense that you're not completely on board with this idea.

    Yeah, people play rangers, but how many play RANGED rangers? I use a bow for 20 seconds and then melee, which basically makes her a dex built twf fighter. Whee. How many rangers do you see that actually use ranged weapons exclusively? I really doubt that it would make rangers more overpowered...just different.

    Maybe make it a part of a specialization so that one cannot have the melee speed of the tempest line at the same time? Would that soothe your ruffled ranger-envy feathers?
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    o.k., o.k. I take it back.
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    just let us dual wield bows then!!!!

    /cowers as the hate mail floods in

    It's a joke folks! Lighten up, it's Friday!!!

    Anyway, the improvement would only help the party. It's all about the team, not the individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadran View Post
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    IF you're going to impliment something like this, then take AWAY the Capstone. Having both would be madness.
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    1. Fixed Ranged combat
    2. Make rangers pick a combat style
    3. Vastly tone down the current ranger capstone
    4. Add additional capstone choices
    5. Restrict ranged capstone to those that picked the ranged combat style.
    6. Add pets to make up for losing a combat style
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    Quote Originally Posted by negative View Post
    2. Make rangers pick a combat style
    3. Vastly tone down the current ranger capstone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaveron View Post
    o.k., o.k. I take it back.
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    just let us dual wield bows then!!!!
    Only if they are repeating hand crossbows.

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    Goodness! My rogue would love to see that weapon introduced to DDO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jopin View Post
    Goodness! My rogue would love to see that weapon introduced to DDO!
    Always fun for the Drow in everyone. Of course it'd need something special to make it worthwhile, either stat damaging or DPS boosting effects.

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    Never understood why they don't have two weapon style and ranged as two different paths that you have to choose between.

    Maybe then they could do something about ranged weapon speed sometime before lvl 20, at which point I probably wont give a toss if I shoot faster.

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    There are bows in DDO?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wormbait View Post
    Never understood why they don't have two weapon style and ranged as two different paths that you have to choose between.
    Because DDO Rangers do not get stuff D&D Rangers do get (e.g., Animal Companion).

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    Manyshot is incredibly powerful, there's a reason for the cooldown, and I don't think it should be decreased. Except maybe at lower levels where it's not that impressive (but then it should increase with BAB, not sure ppl would like it...)

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    I find this thread funny! I remember a day when no one played a ranger because they were gimp now they are up to par with the other DPS classes people say they are OP'd. I also remember a day when everyone was complaining sorcs were OP'd. My how times have changed!

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    If Rangers are indeed overpowered, that couldn't possibly apply to ranged attack. In any case, it was merely a suggestion. In my mind, Rangers should range. I originally built my ranger to use bows, then got frustrated when I realized how useless she was in a fight. I then converted her to melee, but she's pretty gimp in the hit-point department, and I would really love to convert her back to ranged and build a melee ranger.

    That is all.
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