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    So I am a Sorc noob and acquired one of these in a trade. From looking at posts most seem to make SP goggles, but since I already have the scepter I would like to use it. I have Sup Pot 6 and all the lore items. What would you recommend I build with it assuming that eventually I will build the goggles, or should I just leave the dust on it and build goggles outright?

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    I went with an all air weapon.

    I believe it is
    +6 charisma
    +3 exceptional charisma bonus
    3 charges of haste 1m30s
    Air Guard

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    Thanks for the input!

    What do you think of going Pos, pos, pos?

    Same attributes but with 1 clickie of True resurrection and 3% Greater Disruption (kills un-dead no save)

    How often does your haste go off? If it a decent amount (obviously taking into effect the %'s), might be more useful that the greater Disrup, but I can see a TR clickie a party wipe saving item too.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boldarblood View Post
    I went with an all air weapon.

    I believe it is
    +6 charisma
    +3 exceptional charisma bonus
    3 charges of haste 1m30s
    Air Guard
    I went Triple POS for
    +6 Cha
    +3 exceptinal CHA
    True Rez Clickie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Original View Post
    I went Triple POS for
    +6 Cha
    +3 exceptinal CHA
    True Rez Clickie
    Thats a good one to.

    Only problem is that true rez click got swung at by the wiffle bat, knocked it into the raise dead park.

    OP, you can not go wrong with a scepter that gives you a +9 Charima on your sorc. +9cha scepter, enhancements, 3 tome, and levels and you'll be at a 38 cha in no time.

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    Yup, i would go pos/pos/pos for the 9cha. I don't know why you would go air because sorc's get haste and all that. And the clicky to raise dead is nice too.
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    Its really a question of a Raise Dead clickie (once MOD 9 comes out) Vs a chance to knock down someone attacking you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwaz99 View Post
    What would you recommend I build with it assuming that eventually I will build the goggles, or should I just leave the dust on it and build goggles outright?
    Goggles and scepters have different effects on them so it's not really a question of one or the other.
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    Default Choice of 2

    It really comes down to a choice between 2 things-

    +9 CHR on Both

    Air Air Air
    -airguard (good if you end up not killing the stuff before they get to you)
    -Haste 3/day - (meh you already got haste)

    1 less large scale to get it - This make air my choice as Lrg Scales are rare and $$$$

    Pos Pos Pos
    Raise dead - you should have enough UMD to scrolls these anyway)
    Grtr Disruption - face it if you are relying on a weapon to kill stuff, reroll (unless you are one of those out of the ordinary battle sorc etc, but then again you wouldn't want a scepter in that case anyway)

    1 more large scale - $$$$$$

    I went Pos Pos Pos but as soon as the deconstruction comes(if it does) I am going the air route to get a free scale.

    In either case Happy Nuking!!!

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    I prefer the 3xair simply because I don't plan to be swinging my scepter in melee. At least the 3xair has a chance to trigger its effect when things hit me, making the ability have some possibility of being useful unlike 3xpos.

    With all of that charisma, you can res from scrolls. Sure, it costs nothing to use a clicky, and scrolls cost money. If you want to look at it from that perspective, imagine how many raise dead scrolls you could buy with the extra devil scale in the cost.

    There was an argument for it when it was true res, but now that we know it's going to be lowered to simply raise dead, it no longer offers a benefit.

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    OR the 3rd option, keep your base 6 cha out of your hands and do:

    Neg +6 STR
    Pos +1 Except Cha
    Existal stalmeate +6 Wis etc.
    Neg&Pos +2 Exceptional Cha
    Concordent oppition.

    the last tier could also be a single shard air or pos Air uses less scales or stones then pos.

    IF your goign for a +9 cha sceptor then I recomend triple air, less rarer larges, and the chance to kncok down is 3428561238956289364523 times better then greater disrution guard, and the true res become ing raid dead menas just use a scroll, there is a BIG difference since there are lot sof situations where a raids dead just = dead istantly again.
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    with it being a scepter you may want to give it to a cleric to create the GS cleric stick . From a casters view you are currently carrying Sup Pot 6 scepter and all the Void Items to be swapt in the other hand . So you would have to trade it with your Sup Pot 6 Scepter to be able to still swap all your Void Items in the other hand. Thus Causing you to Replace another Slot with Sup Potency 6 or higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desteria View Post
    OR the 3rd option, keep your base 6 cha out of your hands and do:

    Neg +6 STR
    Pos +1 Except Cha
    Existal stalmeate +6 Wis etc.
    Neg&Pos +2 Exceptional Cha
    Concordent oppition.

    the last tier could also be a single shard air or pos Air uses less scales or stones then pos.

    IF your goign for a +9 cha sceptor then I recomend triple air, less rarer larges, and the chance to kncok down is 3428561238956289364523 times better then greater disrution guard, and the true res become ing raid dead menas just use a scroll, there is a BIG difference since there are lot sof situations where a raids dead just = dead istantly again.

    Does con op on a weapon work when you get hit or when you hit? Do multiple con op effects stack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyria View Post
    It really comes down to a choice between 2 things-

    +9 CHR on Both

    Air Air Air
    -airguard (good if you end up not killing the stuff before they get to you)
    -Haste 3/day - (meh you already got haste)

    1 less large scale to get it - This make air my choice as Lrg Scales are rare and $$$$

    Pos Pos Pos
    Raise dead - you should have enough UMD to scrolls these anyway)
    Grtr Disruption - face it if you are relying on a weapon to kill stuff, reroll (unless you are one of those out of the ordinary battle sorc etc, but then again you wouldn't want a scepter in that case anyway)

    1 more large scale - $$$$$$

    I went Pos Pos Pos but as soon as the deconstruction comes(if it does) I am going the air route to get a free scale.

    In either case Happy Nuking!!!

    Personally I vote for Pos/Pos/Air

    it gives you the nerfed rez click so you dont have to buy scrolls
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    it gives you the only 2 large scale money saver

    Pos/Pos/Air is also fun for goggles.
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    I went a different route.

    My dagger has 10% healing amp, 20% healing amp, +2 charisma, and a rez clicky.

    My dragontouched robe has greater false life, +1 charisma, and greater spell pen 8. If I ever get the **** vod bracers, I will try for glacial assault on the robe since the bracers have spell pen 8 on them. (they weren't on my 20th completion list, and I lost the roll on them twice)

    I wear a +6 charisma ring.

    This way when I have to swap out the dagger, I only lose 2 charisma instead of 3. Or 9 for those who put the +6 charisma on their weapon. (that used to be me as well, and I couldn't stand that)

    My heal scrolls hit me for 30% more which helps out quite a bit.

    I keep the dagger in my off hand so that I still have that healing amp and extra charisma when I umd scrolls.

    I don't have to swap in a spell pen weapon as it is always on my robe.

    When I am casting damage spells, I swap in a superior lore/superior potency set.

    I originally had a triple air dagger, but made this one when I got the +1 charisma on the dragontouched robe.

    It didn't hurt too bad as the dagger only cost 2 lrg scales and 3 lrg stones.

    Hopefully they will add a crafting deconstruct option eventually, and I will get those ingredients back from the first dagger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyCalico View Post
    Personally I vote for Pos/Pos/Air

    it gives you the nerfed rez click so you dont have to buy scrolls
    and
    it gives you the only 2 large scale money saver

    Pos/Pos/Air is also fun for goggles.
    AIR guard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then a res click you can duplicate with only +35 UMD and 5000 gold.

    So air/air/air > the pos/pos/air.

    I agree with all the peopel sayign keep your 6 base cha off the weapon, obviusly since my choice had str. I love the one i made with Concordent, but as shade(axer/obliterator) said it is a dule shard one and you have to be willign to spend the 24 larges wich is a significant cost, for me for my main character it was worth it, but then I run shroud a lot when i can actuyl play at least, stupid RL getitng in the way of my DDO
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