Petition to change Bastard Swords

[Oreg]

Either change the crit multiplier or the crit range or the the base damage. Somehow equalize them to khopeshes. I want to look good while I am killing **** ....

[ChildrenofBodom]

I don't like the idea of upping the crit mutiplier.

But upping the base damage sounds good. Thought not sure how it would make sense...

[FluffyCalico]

Nah kopeshes are wrong and borken. You don't change more items to match the one that's broken. You unbreak the broken one

[Impaqt]

Nah kopeshes are wrong and borken. You don't change more items to match the one that's broken. You unbreak the broken one

QFT.

Breaking other things to fix broken items is a poor solution.

[Oreg]

Nah kopeshes are wrong and borken. You don't change more items to match the one that's broken. You unbreak the broken one

I can live with that. I just don't see it happening.

[Monkey_Archer]

Nah kopeshes are wrong and borken. You don't change more items to match the one that's broken. You unbreak the broken one

/QTF

Khopeshs should have been x2 and give a bonus to trip....
Since that would anger alot of people, instead they should have their base damage reduced (to D6 like rapiers and scimitars)

Giving human free bastard sword proficiency may be an easier way to see more bastard swords without doing something stupid like increasing their power.

[esoitl]

There is absolutely no basis for changing Bastard Swords.
I've always searched to find the PnP data for a Khopesh but I don't have any of the books that it appears in. The only basis for changing the stats is if it was added to DDO incorrectly and that's merely to make it correct to form.

Asking to change something because there is better makes no sense and is a very lame argument.

[Goldeneye]

I think upping the Base Damage on Bastard Swords would be a great idea
Bastard swords deserve to be worth using

[Amberyll]

According to Arms and Equipment, Kopesh is 1d8 with a crit range of 19-20 with a X2. They give a benefit to Trip. I haven't looked to see what it is in DDO.

Bastard Sword have always required an exotic weapons proficiency to use one handed, and DDO won't let you use it 2 handed.

Don't know if there is any true benefit to do anything with either one, though, imho.

[sephiroth1084]

Just don't use BS. There, problem fixed.

[Souske]

Just don't use BS. There, problem fixed.

I prefer BS honestly, I like them and prefer them over anything, although I would like the option of using them 2 handed so you don't need the proficiency IMO

[gfunk]

Use bastard swords where they shine: vs mobs with >~50% fortification (or crit immune opponents). They are the best weapons vs things like undead and constructs (refering to the 2d8 greensteel bastard swords). The greensteel bastard swords actually don't underperform the gs khopesh by that much vs. Harry when you take into account his 50% fortification. At 75% fort, greensteel bastard swords should be ahead of khopeshes over a fairly broad range of damage modifiers.

[branmakmuffin]

I prefer BS honestly, I like them and prefer them over anything, although I would like the option of using them 2 handed so you don't need the proficiency IMO

If you were going to wield them two-handed, why wouldn't you just use a two-handed weapon?

Edit: DDO is full of stupid/broken weapons.

[bobbryan2]

If you were going to wield them two-handed, why wouldn't you just use a two-handed weapon?

Edit: DDO is full of stupid/broken weapons.

D&D is full of stupid/broken weapons.

[Borror0]

Either change the crit multiplier or the crit range or the the base damage. Somehow equalize them to khopeshes. I want to look good while I am killing **** ....

Exotic weapon does mean it had to be good.

If we had good random loot once again, bastard swords may be worth something.

[branmakmuffin]

D&D is full of stupid/broken weapons.

Amazingly enough, no argument from me.

Still, Turbine could have fixed the stupidity, yet chose to perpetuate it.

[Phidius]

Amazingly enough, no argument from me.

Yeah, I'm hearing a lot of calls for "Medic!!", and a bunch of EKG monitors just flat lined...

[akla_thornfist]

leave them as they are all my friends send me there bastard swords if they make them better they will keep them

[branmakmuffin]

Yeah, I'm hearing a lot of calls for "Medic!!", and a bunch of EKG monitors just flat lined...

This would be a great time for "The Argument Clinic" skit.

[ShaeNightbird]

This would be a great time for "The Argument Clinic" skit.

No it isn't...