Glancing blows in mod 9, tested a bit.

[Bobertt]

Finally got on LLamania and got to test my wf 2h barb a bit. Sadly, it was only lvl 9 because it's a very old version but I was able to pick up 2 levels of wf aptitude, frenzied berserker and improved 2h fighting.

The glancing blows seem to have a very very high chance to proc special effects. This includes the vicious frenzy ability... which hurts quite a bit at level 9 but also puts out very good aoe dmg.

This is just a guess but I would think at 18 with all enhancements/feats it would be 100%, if not very close to that given the # of procs I'm getting just at 9.

[WeaselKing]

Finally got on LLamania and got to test my wf 2h barb a bit. Sadly, it was only lvl 9 because it's a very old version but I was able to pick up 2 levels of wf aptitude, frenzied berserker and improved 2h fighting.

The glancing blows seem to have a very very high chance to proc special effects. This includes the vicious frenzy ability... which hurts quite a bit at level 9 but also puts out very good aoe dmg.

This is just a guess but I would think at 18 with all enhancements/feats it would be 100%, if not very close to that given the # of procs I'm getting just at 9.

....and the robots with big sticks rejoiced mightily throughout the realm of Stormreach.

[Bobertt]

Frenzy is going to be very painful though. You can't toggle it like I was thinking, It's a 1 minute buff with a 30 sec cooldown. So once you pop the buff you're stuck in it for a minute, I assume the second frenzy you get later is the same as well.

[WeaselKing]

Thats what force/repair specced wizards are for.

[Wizzly_Bear]

Thats what force/repair specced wizards are for.

no deal

[MrCow]

With:

Greater Two Handed Fighting
Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude III

Using:

+1 Icy Burst Quarterstaff

I got:

45 out of 500 glancing blows to produce extra frost damage (9%)


Another curious thing I noticed, as I used the same scrag for all 500 glancing blow hits, is that auto-crit hits bestow a little bit of extra damage now.

[WeaselKing]

With:

Greater Two Handed Fighting
Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude III

Using:

+1 Icy Burst Quarterstaff

I got:

45 out of 500 glancing blows to produce extra frost damage (9%)


Another curious thing I noticed, as I used the same scrag for all 500 glancing blow hits, is that auto-crit hits bestow a little bit of extra damage now.

This sounds more like I expected, so maybe 15% with Capstone and frenzied/kensai?

[Bobertt]

Ok, actually the vicious effect is 100%, which is what I was using to test. Moving on to other weapon effects its not very high so far, in fact its pretty low. Granted I only have 2 feats 2 ranks of wf apt and 1 frenzied berserker rank.

Trying to figure out a % but it's definitely not going off much, just tested about 25 glancing blows and only had specials applied 2 times with a shocking burst of pure good. Kiting an elite troll around @ lvl 9 isn't the easiest to test with though

[ArkoHighStar]

This sounds more like I expected, so maybe 15% with Capstone and frenzied/kensai?

so pretty useless then 15% at lvl 16 with a ton of feats, just puts TWF that far ahead, it should be 75%

[Bobertt]

With:

Greater Two Handed Fighting
Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude III

Using:

+1 Icy Burst Quarterstaff

I got:

45 out of 500 glancing blows to produce extra frost damage (9%)


Another curious thing I noticed, as I used the same scrag for all 500 glancing blow hits, is that auto-crit hits bestow a little bit of extra damage now.

To me it's looking like 1.5% per bonus to chance of applying effects is about accurate?

[Bobertt]

so pretty useless then 15% at lvl 16 with a ton of feats, just puts TWF that far ahead, it should be 75%

Unless you're a double frenzied barb, thats 4d6 dmg per glancing blow 100% of the time. GL to clerics in pugs with bad wf 2h barbs

[MrCow]

To me it's looking like 1.5% per bonus to chance of applying effects is about accurate?

This is only a small set of numbers. Also, it could be true that certain feats or enhancements have different percentages than others.

[ArkoHighStar]

Unless you're a double frenzied barb, thats 4d6 dmg per glancing blow 100% of the time. GL to clerics in pugs with bad wf 2h barbs

vicious is now 1d3 damage to player in mod 9

The Vicious weapon enchantment now deals 2d6 damage to opponents struck by the weapon and 1d3 damage back to the wielder instead of 1d6

[Draclaud]

Ayone check the cooldown on supreme cleave yet?

[Timjc86]

Did casters just get an AoE spell that out paces firewall? Maybe....

[Lorien_the_First_One]

so pretty useless then 15% at lvl 16 with a ton of feats, just puts TWF that far ahead, it should be 75%

Agreed, that's too low a return for that high a cost. The THF feats alone should get you to at least the 15% mark, if not 25%+, and then everything else should add to that.

[Bobertt]

vicious is now 1d3 damage to player in mod 9

I meant dmg to the mobs, guess i wasn't too clear.

4d6 per glancing blow to the mobs while having 2d3 back on yourself.

[Sillk]

Draclaud - This is what is posted in the compendium, so it should't take much time at all.

Supreme Cleave:
Benefit: Expend 10 hit points to attack all nearby enemies.

Supreme Cleave has no cooldown other than a standard 1 second normal cooldown for attack actions. As long a you've got the hit points, you can continue to hit the anim.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Draclaud - This is what is posted in the compendium, so it should't take much time at all.

Supreme Cleave:
Benefit: Expend 10 hit points to attack all nearby enemies.

Supreme Cleave has no cooldown other than a standard 1 second normal cooldown for attack actions. As long a you've got the hit points, you can continue to hit the anim.

/chuckles.... I wanna cleave myself to death

[Delacroix21]

With:

Greater Two Handed Fighting
Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude III

Using:

+1 Icy Burst Quarterstaff

I got:

45 out of 500 glancing blows to produce extra frost damage (9%)


Another curious thing I noticed, as I used the same scrag for all 500 glancing blow hits, is that auto-crit hits bestow a little bit of extra damage now.

That is HORRENDOUSLY low, and in no way fixes THF. I am very disappointed if they keep things this way. I mean it could be "bad luck" that it was 9% out of 500 hits, but then thats the worst luck in the world. Personally I thought it would be 10% per rank for an eventual 100% (lvl 20 WF barb). After all, TWF mainhand/offhand attacks have a 100% chance of effects with no feats or enhancements.