Bladesworn Transformation question.

[Stamp3de]

Can a wf with BT active still cast Loh on himself?

[MrCow]

Lay on Hands is not a spell, so it is not inhibited by Bladesworn Transformation. It works.

[Stamp3de]

cool

[Stamp3de]

Off topic but can anyone come up with the max str for a wf pally starting with a 16 str at creation?

16
+4 lvls
+4 BT
+2 rage spell
+6 item
+4 double madstoned
+8 scourge choker
+3 shroud item
+1 littany
= 48

Am I missing anything?

And another question is will the double healing from defender of siberys stance double the effects of loh also?

[Jay203]

Off topic but can anyone come up with the max str for a wf pally starting with a 16 str at creation?

16
+4 lvls
+4 BT
+2 rage spell
+6 item
+4 double madstoned
+8 scourge choker
+3 shroud item
+1 littany
= 48

Am I missing anything?

And another question is will the double healing from defender of siberys stance double the effects of loh also?

where's your tome? =P

[Ghoste]

Potions also work. If I remember correctly though, wands do not.

[Jay203]

Potions also work. If I remember correctly though, wands do not.

only the ones that don't function like a clickie works

[Stamp3de]

where's your tome? =P

ah ya! +4s next mod
so thats 52!

well then if im counting next mod +1 str too from lvl up

so 53!

+ whatever else comes out next mod that we dont know yet

I'm starting to think my wf thf pally is gunna be alot of fun
10 min cooldown sux tho
should maybe be lowered to 5.

[Joseph]

What exactly does this transformation do?

Thanks

[Ghoste]

What exactly does this transformation do?

Thanks

+4 profane bonus to str, +4 profane bonus to damage, heavy fort, immunity to healing based magic, +4 natural ac, +10 profane bonus to will saves vs enchantments, full BaB (for clerics or multi class pally)...I think that's it. Am I missing something?

[Ghoste]

Yup, I checked DDO wiki, and that covers it. They did forget the +10 to will saves vs enchantments though in their description.

[Delacroix21]

Off topic but can anyone come up with the max str for a wf pally starting with a 16 str at creation?

16
+4 lvls
+4 BT
+2 rage spell
+6 item
+4 double madstoned
+8 scourge choker
+3 shroud item
+1 littany
= 48

Am I missing anything?

And another question is will the double healing from defender of siberys stance double the effects of loh also?

Scourge choker will only add 2 strength, dropping your total to 42. I know it SAYS adds 8 strength, but 6 of that 8 doesnt stack with a +6 strength item (dont know why it behaves this way). Also +3 strength on a shroud weapon= gimped weapon, better to just add more effects to the weapon then strength.

[BlackSteel]

Scourge choker will only add 2 strength, dropping your total to 42. I know it SAYS adds 8 strength, but 6 of that 8 doesnt stack with a +6 strength item (dont know why it behaves this way). Also +3 strength on a shroud weapon= gimped weapon, better to just add more effects to the weapon then strength.

???? you must have a buggy choker

[LargeMarge]

Off topic but can anyone come up with the max str for a wf pally starting with a 16 str at creation?

16
+4 lvls
+4 BT
+2 rage spell
+6 item
+4 double madstoned
+8 scourge choker
+3 shroud item
+1 littany
= 48

Am I missing anything?

And another question is will the double healing from defender of siberys stance double the effects of loh also?

If you splash a little bit of ranger in there you could add the +2 to STR from RAM's MIGHT!!

GO go TEMPEST/KoTC!!!

[Geonis]

If you splash a little bit of ranger in there you could add the +2 to STR from RAM's MIGHT!!

GO go TEMPEST/KoTC!!!

Could be 6 paly/6 Rgr/6 Ftr for another 2 points of Str.

Go go go Tempest/Kensai/KoC!!!

Joking at this, but maybe not after the numbers are run....

[Dark-Star]

Am I missing anything?

+4 sacred bonus from Def of Sib III, so... 56-57.

Not bad for a gimp class.

[Stamp3de]

Not bad at all

[elraido]

+4 sacred bonus from Def of Sib III, so... 56-57.

Not bad for a gimp class.

But if he was going for DPS wouldn't it be better to not have the Madstone rage and go with Divine Might IV and Divine Favor for +11 damage vs the 3 from the rages (don't know if you can cast while having the scourge choker or not....so it might be 7)

[Gum]

Can a wf with BT active still cast Loh on himself?

Yes

Also, don't forget staying pure for the pally capstone is gonna be SOOOO worth it.

I don't know about the choker, but with the madstone boots I found it to much of a hassle because I couldn't cast my essential spells when they ran out, even with extend. It's good to hit the clicky just after you have casted all of your buffs though, and switch to your regular boots.