Someone please explain to me.

[Disavowed]

How will mod 9 effect transmuters are they no longer going to bypass DR the way they do now?

[Raegoul]

Transmuters will no longer bypass DR/good

Meaning a plain transmuter will not bypass devil DR or demon DR.

Devil DR is Silver and Good. Demon DR is Cold Iron and Good.

So in effect you have to have a Transmuter of Pure Good to bypass their DR.

[cluedout]

So in effect you have to have a Transmuter of Pure Good to bypass their DR.

just pulled a +4 trans of pure good flechlon that should go for millions of plat! taking offers! pm me or mail to saje need larges and plat WOOOOOOT!

[Disavowed]

That kind of sucks. Gonna have to rethink the GS items I was going to craft. A min II GS would still work on pit fiend correct?

[NXPlasmid]

That kind of sucks. Gonna have to rethink the GS items I was going to craft. A min II GS would still work on pit fiend correct?

Tell me about it, just finished my first tier 3 min2 rapier and went holy acid transmuting (+4ac)... looks like mod9 is going to be full of delights and annoyances.. but on the whole it's looking pretty darn good! BTW does good burst or blast count against DR? I am assuming yes?

[RioRussell]

Tell me about it, just finished my first tier 3 min2 rapier and went holy acid transmuting (+4ac)... looks like mod9 is going to be full of delights and annoyances.. but on the whole it's looking pretty darn good! BTW does good burst or blast count against DR? I am assuming yes?

Plasmid your rapier still beats demon and devil DR... the holy from tier I coupled with the transmuting (silver or cold iron) makes that weapon just as effective...

riorussell

[Riorik]

Yes, if you take Holy (Positive) as the lower level effect.

[Raegoul]

Yes mineral II is the way to go WITH either Holy or Goodburst and i prefer Goodburst.

They still work on Devils and Demons.

[Disavowed]

So I guess I'm still gonna go min II with the holy on the lowest tier. That seems to be what will be the best all around weapon. Now I'm wondering if it's worth the extra ingredients to add the transmuting to it though. Any opinions on that?

[RioRussell]

So I guess I'm still gonna go min II with the holy on the lowest tier. That seems to be what will be the best all around weapon. Now I'm wondering if it's worth the extra ingredients to add the transmuting to it though. Any opinions on that?

well worth it, don't forget the maiming and keen qualities it adds, along with the increased hardness and durability...

[Arkat]

So I guess I'm still gonna go min II with the holy on the lowest tier. That seems to be what will be the best all around weapon. Now I'm wondering if it's worth the extra ingredients to add the transmuting to it though. Any opinions on that?

Eric, you still need the Transmuting part to bypass the portion of the DR that's material-based like Silver, Cold Iron, etc.

[Junts]

So I guess I'm still gonna go min II with the holy on the lowest tier. That seems to be what will be the best all around weapon. Now I'm wondering if it's worth the extra ingredients to add the transmuting to it though. Any opinions on that?

if you dont add transmuting to a min2 then the weapon is vastly inferior to almost every other potential shroud item .. it doesn't break any useful drs without transmuting (you need it for the silver/cold iron components)

every other shroud weapon is better than a mineral1 weapon, pretty much uniformly.

[Aesop]

more specifically Transmuters will ONLY bypass Material DRs

DR/ Adamantine
/Mithril
/Silver
/Byeshk
/Cold Iron


they will NOT bypass any Alignment DR

DR/ Good
/Evil
/Law
/Chaos


they will NOT bypass any type DR

DR/Slashing
DR/Piercing
DR/Bludgeoning

that last one is the set is the one that actually bothers me. Archers are gonna have issues (if there are any) and characters like MOST of mine will have issues because they use signature weapons (Q-Staves, Long Swords etc) (though Muckbane is an exception I always make)


Aesop

[Raegoul]

DR/Slashing
DR/Piercing
DR/Bludgeoning

that last one is the set is the one that actually bothers me. Archers are gonna have issues (if there are any) and characters like MOST of mine will have issues because they use signature weapons (Q-Staves, Long Swords etc) (though Muckbane is an exception I always make)


Aesop

This is a good point and one that is rather irritating.

[RioRussell]

that last one is the set is the one that actually bothers me. Archers are gonna have issues (if there are any) and characters like MOST of mine will have issues because they use signature weapons (Q-Staves, Long Swords etc) (though Muckbane is an exception I always make)
Aesop

There are very few monster types that have DR based on a weapon damage type (slashing / piercing) some undead, some spiders, raksasha, I can't think of any more. I agree with archers being limited but I do agree transmuting was pretty well overpowered. I do believe this was changed for a reason and when mod9 comes out we'll all be saying 'ah, that's why the change to transmuting was made'

riorussell

[Raegoul]

What weapon type are you making Disavowed.

[Disavowed]

I've made no GS weapons on any of my toons. Almost all are dual wielding. I like Str based toons so all are slashing types. Daxes, Khopeshes, Longswords are the main ones I'm gonna have to make as well as 2 Gaxes

[Aesop]

There are very few monster types that have DR based on a weapon damage type (slashing / piercing) some undead, some spiders, raksasha, I can't think of any more. I agree with archers being limited but I do agree transmuting was pretty well overpowered. I do believe this was changed for a reason and when mod9 comes out we'll all be saying 'ah, that's why the change to transmuting was made'

riorussell

Lich is DR Magic and Bludgeoning
Clay Golem is Adamantine and Bludgeoning
Skeletons are Bludgeoning
Zombies are Slashing
Raksasha are Piercing and Good
Plant Creatures are often Slashing (though none currently exist in DDO)


there are others but really what is bothersome is the undead ones... do you realize how many of those buggers we fight just leveling up. We must empty the cemetaries twice over just going from level 3-10.

Aesop

[pscomputers]

And anything with Holy or Holyburst on it kills them easily enough.

How many ppl run with Transmuters at lvl 3-5?

[Disavowed]

This is why I leave this stuff to the smart DDO people and ask for their opinion. You guys put out way more options then I could even come up with. I'm so glad I put this post up before I started crafting. TY for all the advice.