Archery gets nerfed EVEN MORE!

[Gryphton]

This statement is totally untrue... the fighter class is the one which the change to transmutting affects the most negatively.




Exactly, Archers are not nearly as affected as a fighter by this change. A fighters to-hit and damage bonus' are for the weapon groups slash, pierce or bludgeon. A slashing spec'd fighter thus loses +3 to-hit and +6 damage by picking up a bludgeon weapon. Pally's still maintain sacred, barbarians rage... and the ranger archer still has his favored.

Guess ya forgot about the monks. If they are neutral might as well just delete or go spend the 48 larges on a pair of in essence +5 holy silver kamas and still not be able to use any of your special monk attacks while you are at it.

[Vivanto]

Guess ya forgot about the monks. If they are neutral might as well just delete or go spend the 48 larges on a pair of in essence +5 holy silver kamas and still not be able to use any of your special monk attacks while you are at it.

I could reach 20 umd on my lawful neutral pure monk with base starting cha, that's all we need.

[sephiroth1084]

This statement is totally untrue... the fighter class is the one which the change to transmutting affects the most negatively.




Exactly, Archers are not nearly as affected as a fighter by this change. A fighters to-hit and damage bonus' are for the weapon groups slash, pierce or bludgeon. A slashing spec'd fighter thus loses +3 to-hit and +6 damage by picking up a bludgeon weapon. Pally's still maintain sacred, barbarians rage... and the ranger archer still has his favored.

What hurts more. DR 10/- or losing Weapon Specialization (+ the rest of the tree)?

The DR does. The fighter can pick up the sub-optimal weapon while still making use of most of his feats and still performing in the way intended, while an archer cannot do this. An archer without melee feats is going to be much worse with a different weapon than a fighter will be using a non-specialized weapon.

And the difference gets worse as monster DR goes up (which it likely will).