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    Default Restart AC

    This post is directly aimed at providing some feedback on Monks to a player who asked for it. New thread because the original was hijacked.

    If you want to argue with another player about Monks and Tanking, DPS vs AC or anything else go make your own thread.


    If you have comments about the builds presented (fixes, tweaks, improvements and adjustments) please feel free to post.


    Builds will follow...At work...Next three post will be reserved for builds
    Last edited by Gadget2775; 04-07-2009 at 01:08 PM.
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    Strength Focused Monk...Dwarf avoids all penalties to primary Monk stats and allows for higher HP with low starting Con

    REWORKED TO BETTER MATCH REQUESTED VERSION.
    Tweakes;
    Replaced Dodge w/Stunning Fist
    Replaced WF: Bludgeon w/Stunning Blow
    Wisdom -1, Con + 2


    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 2.96
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    Level 16 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
    (16 Monk) 
    Hit Points: 282
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 12\12\17\22
    Fortitude: 13
    Reflex: 13
    Will: 13
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
    Strength             16                    20
    Dexterity            16                    17
    Constitution         14                    16
    Intelligence          8                     8
    Wisdom               15                    17
    Charisma              6                     6
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 8
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
    Balance               7                    26
    Bluff                -2                    -2
    Concentration         6                    26
    Diplomacy            -2                    -2
    Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
    Haggle               -2                     1
    Heal                  2                     3
    Hide                  3                     3
    Intimidate           -2                    -2
    Jump                  6                    23
    Listen                2                     3
    Move Silently         3                     3
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform              n/a                   n/a
    Repair               -1                    -1
    Search               -1                     1
    Spot                  2                     5
    Swim                  3                     5
    Tumble                4                     4
    Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a
    
    Level 1 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 2 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
    
    
    Level 3 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 4 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 5 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
    Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
    
    
    Level 7 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 8 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 9 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 11 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 12 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 14 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 15 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Monk)
    Starting wisdom could be dropped by 2 with extra points put into Dex/Con in order to secure ITWF/GTWF if a +1 Dex tome isn't affordable.

    AC levels won't be maxed with this version...Likely to have a lowish AC untill level 11+.

    Level 1:
    10 Base
    03 Dex 16
    01 Wis 13 (-2 Fire Stance)
    01 Protection (Korthos Isle Ring)
    -------------
    16 Standing
    04 Mage Armor (Korthos Isle Clicky)
    -------------
    20 Base

    Level 16
    10 Base
    06 Dex 22 w/+5 item
    06 Wis 24 w/+6 item (-2 Fire Stance) (Requires all 3 levels of Monk Wisdom or 2 levels and plus 1 Tome)
    04 Centered (1 @ 2, 5, 10, 15)
    05 Protection
    02 Chaos Guards
    06 DT Armor
    ------------
    40 Standing w/out Horribly difficult gear to obtain. Can be higher with tweaking for Max gear and outside buffs
    Last edited by Gadget2775; 04-08-2009 at 07:26 AM.
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    Dex focused Monk, Halfling for saves/size bonus/Dex bonus

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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 2.96
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    Level 16 Lawful Good Halfling Male
    (16 Monk) 
    Hit Points: 216
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 12\12\17\22
    Fortitude: 16
    Reflex: 18
    Will: 17
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
    Strength             14                    14
    Dexterity            16                    22
    Constitution         14                    14
    Intelligence         12                    13
    Wisdom               14                    16
    Charisma              8                     8
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 5
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
    Balance               7                    25
    Bluff                -1                    -1
    Concentration         6                    23
    Diplomacy            -1                    -1
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle               -1                     2
    Heal                  2                     3
    Hide                  3                     8
    Intimidate           -1                    -1
    Jump                  6                    20
    Listen                2                    21
    Move Silently         3                     8
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform              n/a                   n/a
    Repair                1                     1
    Search                1                     1
    Spot                  6                    19
    Swim                  5                    10
    Tumble                4                     7
    Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a
    
    Level 1 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
    Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
    Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
    Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
    Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Agility
    Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Bravery
    Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Keen Ears
    Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Luck
    Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Size Bonus
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Damage
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Handaxe
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Club
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Dagger
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Heavy Crossbow
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Light Crossbow
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Quarterstaff
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Unarmed
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike
    
    
    Level 2 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Weapon Finesse
    Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
    Feat: (Automatic) Meditation
    
    
    Level 3 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
    Feat: (Automatic) Still Mind
    
    
    Level 4 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Magic
    Feat: (Automatic) Slow Fall
    
    
    Level 5 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) AC Bonus
    Feat: (Automatic) Purity of Body
    
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Combat Expertise
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 7 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Wholeness of Body
    
    
    Level 8 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 9 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Evasion
    
    
    Level 10 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Lawful
    
    
    Level 11 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Body
    
    
    Level 12 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
    Feat: (Automatic) Abundant Step
    
    
    Level 13 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Soul
    
    
    Level 14 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 15 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Quivering Palm
    
    
    Level 16 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Adamantine
    Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II
    Enhancement: Halfling Cunning III
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile I
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile II
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile III
    Enhancement: Halfling Guile IV
    Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Fortitude)
    Enhancement: Halfling Luck II (Fortitude)
    Enhancement: Halfling Luck III (Fortitude)
    Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Reflex)
    Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Will)
    Enhancement: Halfling Luck II (Will)
    Enhancement: Halfling Luck III (Will)
    Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I
    Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey II
    Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey III
    Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Fists of Light
    Enhancement: Void Strike
    Enhancement: Unbalancing Strike
    Enhancement: Adept of Wind
    Enhancement: Disciple of Breezes
    Enhancement: Master of Thunder
    Enhancement: Adept of Rain
    Enhancement: Disciple of Puddles
    Enhancement: Monk Concentration I
    Enhancement: Monk Concentration II
    Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
    Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
    Much more of an AC build...Means reduced DPS, but that's how it goes. Some of this is made up for by the Halfling Cunning/Guile Enhancemnts. In combinations with Unbalancing Strike DPS receives a small kick for any target susceptable to Backstab damage...

    For me I'd have dropped Str to a 12 and kicked Widsom up to a 16 starting...But its not a build killer.

    Level 1:
    10 Base
    04 Dex 18 (+2 Air Stance)
    02 Wis 14
    01 Protection (Korthos Isle Ring)
    01 Size Bonus
    -------------
    18 Standing
    04 Mage Armor (Korthos Isle Clicky)
    -------------
    22 Base

    Level 16
    10 Base
    10 Dex 31 w/+6 item (+3 Wind Stance)
    06 Wis 22 w/+6 item
    04 Centered (1 @ 2, 5, 10, 15)
    05 Protection
    03 Dodge Feat & Chaos Guards
    01 Size
    05 Combat Experties
    06 DT Armor
    ------------
    50 with easily obtainable gear. Farming required but 70-80 is obtainable for this build with rare equipment and buffs

    Last edited by Gadget2775; 04-07-2009 at 06:30 PM.
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    Rough day at work today...Pushing additional build till tommorow.

    Note: Did start the Elf, but just don't have the energy to finish...

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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 2.96
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    Level 16 Lawful Good Elf Male
    (16 Monk) 
    Hit Points: 164
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 12\12\17\22
    Fortitude: 11
    Reflex: 13
    Will: 13
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
    Strength             16                    20
    Dexterity            16                    19
    Constitution         12                    12
    Intelligence          8                     8
    Wisdom               16                    16
    Charisma              8                     8
    Last edited by Gadget2775; 04-08-2009 at 04:11 PM.
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    Joseph...Plugged in the first build. As mentioned AC on this one is going to be a bit on the low side, but it's fairly balanced to provide HP and reasonable DPS. Lemme know what you think...Building a Halfling for you to ponder as well.
    Last edited by Gadget2775; 04-07-2009 at 05:46 PM.
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    Added the second build...One of the more painfull aspects of Monk is their relativly low AC while leveling...Barkskin pots and Shield Clickies help, but you'll still be behind until higher levels.
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