Transmuting discussion

[ducetrae]

although i do agree with you - what about those that gave up for w/p's?

i do also think wop nerf is abit to much nerf but at the same time they added con damage to the feat slicing blow so if you wield wops and slicing blow you will be doing auto crits in about 1 round of combat and the all crits so that is still very powerful.
my main argument is 2 things this is raid loot /crafting which should never be nerfed unless something is inately wrong with the way it works and is meant to work . this cannot be said with min 2 weps if that is the case then why did transmuting for min2 have slicing as an added effect. they knew and wanted it to bypass all dr bypassable and added slicing to it even if the weapon is not a slashing wep. to me that says that the property of transmuting can alter its physical form for the purpose of slashing and becoming bludeoning and piercing wepons

[ducetrae]

On the fence about this one. If they added a 6th backpack slot, it'd soften the blow a bit. As it stands, it will mean that most players will want to have a transmuting x of pure good of each of slashing, piercing and bludgeoning probably. That kind of sucks. On the other hand, transmuters were definitely too dominating in their utility.

Maybe grant a special property to bane weapons that allows them to bypass the DR of their assigned enemies?

not a bad idea my friend

[Auran82]

4 capped toons. Maces, mauls and clubs I do get, but they never have holy and almost always have something a cleric or a caster can use.

If you seem to have an inability to find a holy or pure good blunt weapon in chests, end rewards (which I'm sure many have turned up that you simply ignored and took the more expensive item to sell to the vendors) and in house D or on the AH, that isn't really our issue.

Having one item type to bypass all DR always seemed stupid to me, but at the same time, the game seems to have been balanced around us having access to the old type of transmuters.

[sephiroth1084]

Think this was made after they realized that the "bypasses Good DR" portion of the paladin capstone was mostly useless?

[MrCow]

You can make a +5 holy /good tier 2 shroud weapon in less than a day including vale stones.

In the heat of the moment with a recently released quest sometimes there is little you can do when you realize every weapon you have is slashing or piercing, with the exception of a light hammer and some vendor-fodder scepter you looted 3 chests ago.

[vtecfiend99]

This angers me more than the W/P nerf. At least that can SORT OF be justified.


Thanks for wasting months of my time grinding out min2 weapons to save inventory space Turbine.

Worst decision EVER.


New players leveling for the first time are going to be EVEN MORE disadvantaged also.

Inventory overflowing with even MORE stuff now, wasted time.


terrible. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE rethink this

[FluffyCalico]

In the heat of the moment with a recently released quest sometimes there is little you can do when you realize every weapon you have is slashing or piercing, with the exception of a light hammer and some vendor-fodder scepter you looted 3 chests ago.

I guess I can buy that.

[branmakmuffin]

In the heat of the moment with a recently released quest sometimes there is little you can do when you realize every weapon you have is slashing or piercing

A good transmuter will solve that problem.

[FluffyCalico]

It helps new players. Now they are no longer months behind you in weapons. They can pull the new named raid weapons just like you. This does not hurt new people or causals. Just people who spent months getting it and are upset they no longer are way ahead of everyone else.

[valorik]

This angers me more than the W/P nerf. At least that can SORT OF be justified.


Thanks for wasting months of my time grinding out min2 weapons to save inventory space Turbine.

Worst decision EVER.


New players leveling for the first time are going to be EVEN MORE disadvantaged also.

Inventory overflowing with even MORE stuff now, wasted time.


terrible. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE rethink this

not that bad, if you have holy or good burst on your mineral 2 you're in good shape except for tharaak hounds, maruts, adn a few other non- good/metal based dr guys

[Lithic]

not that bad, if you have holy or good burst on your mineral 2 you're in good shape except for tharaak hounds, maruts, adn a few other non- good/metal based dr guys

The biggest problem is liches with DR bludgeoning. I see many holy/good burst/good blast maces in the near future.

[Helmet]

i traded a complete tome set for a transmuting dwarf axe of greater undead bane.
now it is completely worthless. awesome.

[xman26]

it Helps New Players. Now They Are No Longer Months Behind You In Weapons. They Can Pull The New Named Raid Weapons Just Like You. This Does Not Hurt New People Or Causals. Just People Who Spent Months Getting It And Are Upset They No Longer Are Way Ahead Of Everyone Else.

Like Hell It Doesn"t Hurt Casual Gamers!

[FluffyCalico]

The biggest problem is liches with DR bludgeoning. I see many holy/good burst/good blast maces in the near future.

A blunt radiance II might be on the menu for undead

[Brigadoom]

Where are you getting those numbers as definitions from? I consider myself as a casual gamer and get 1-2 hours per weeknight and anywhere between 2-10 hours on the weekends. Based on this I could fall under the power gamer catagory, but the fact that I *just* last night got tiers 1 and 2 done on my first greensteel weapon puts me under the casual gamer catagory.

All I have to say is Lol...
if shroud was not implemented into the game, do you really think DDO would be as populated as it is now?

Besides, doesn't it make sense for the person who uses the content more, to get his problems addressed first? Green Steel allows power gamers to have a reward for working past level 16, and just because you slow boat your self there and on equipping your toon, doesn't mean the power gamers should have to wait up for you

[dragonofsteel2]

It helps new players. Now they are no longer months behind you in weapons. They can pull the new named raid weapons just like you. This does not hurt new people or causals. Just people who spent months getting it and are upset they no longer are way ahead of everyone else.

I really do not see how this hurts power gamers, but if think does good for u. I have two min. II they not worthless still work against the majority of mobs. Second it was easy enough before for casual gamer to get transmuting weapon do decide damage in there before, now they have to find one with pure good or holy silver something weapon, guessing these items might be little harder to get then a transmutter ). This to me was more of move to help them make new challenges were they require u to get new weapons and gear to do great damage ). Who really cares about the hound not like that hard to kill anyway once them little puppies do there work.

[MrCow]

The biggest problem is liches with DR bludgeoning. I see many holy/good burst/good blast maces in the near future.

Those of us who made Mauls way back in Module 6 (because there were no Greataxes) are probably enjoying this one.

[BlackSteel]

the only mobs that it really impacts will be undead with blunt. As the above mentioned mobs either have **** for HP or only appear in lower level content. I mean when was the last time you saw a marut? And hounds? I like to guess whether I'll 2 shot or 3 shot hounds.

with the revamp of abbott, our last addition of a sorjek, and the future promise of dracoliches: these will be more of an issue than hounds or maruts. But they're also cheaply fixed. You can craft a +++ maul or warhammer, or a radiance maul or warhammer, and do a good deal more damage than your mineral 2.

[vtecfiend99]

not that bad, if you have holy or good burst on your mineral 2 you're in good shape except for tharaak hounds, maruts, adn a few other non- good/metal based dr guys

It IS bad, the only thing transmuting ever did was save us some inventory slots. Now we have to pollute our inventory EVEN MORE with weapons to bypass other dr.


And fluffy, if you don't see how a new/ non power gamer is hurt by this let me break it down for you:

Transmuting weapons were a cheap alternative that almost ANY player could afford to bypass DR on big baddies. Now the price of transmuting of PG will skyrocket, the price of holy silver whatever will go even HIGHER and MIN2 weapons will still be hard to get for them.



This pretty much denied an entire section of players from being able to feel effective.


It has NOTHING to do with me wanting to be far ahead of others. I will have no problems purchasing new tems. Not everyone is plat rich though.

[xman26]

You can make a +5 holy /good tier 2 shroud blunt weapon in less than a day including vale stones.

Sure if you have nothing but time on your hands. I dont, I get roughly 10 hours of game play a week.