Build advice from Khyber since they know what's up.

[Disavowed]

Okay when the level cap goes up how should I level my tanks?

They are 11 RGR 3 Pally & 2 FTR. I'm not going anymore pally I know that for sure. All fighter or all rgr gets 2 feats as does 1 rgr 3 ftr.

Pros and cons would be nice. Rich if you read this your advice would be greatly appreciated.

[InfidelofHaLL]

go 4 ranger personally is what i woudl say, barks goes to +5 get all your FE dmg and to hit bonuses and you get another FE and some more spells

[Arkat]

It's hard to give up those 2 more levels of Fighter. Weapon Specialization while not particularly great in PnP is great in DDO especially for TWF Tempest-types. That's like around 20 extra points of damage per attack sequence. To me, that's significant.

[Mithran]

One Ranger, Three Paladin would give you access to two Prestige Classes.

[Dark-Star]

Hard to say for me without more details of your build.

Can you give me your existing feats, stats, ac and goals for the toon (tank, ac build, etc.)?

[maddmatt70]

Well I would like to see what 6 fighter will officially give you. Yes, I know there was a 3-4 months ago preview of the Kensai Prestige Enhancement, but who knows what alterations it has gone through. When they put portions on Mod9 on the new preview server we will all know what the prestige enhancements will actually be with much more certainty. My answer is give details of your build like Cleen said and then wait until you get the prestige enhancement information from the actual previews of mod9 on the preview server before making a decision.

[Disavowed]

They are all str based. 2 of them duel wield one uses great axes. One duel wielder has d axes the other long swords (elf). All the standard tank feats toughness etc. all between 400-500HP.

[Demoyn]

Really, the decision is this:

Ranger 4 - favored enemy choice, favored enemy damage +1, +1 barkskin, ranger energy of the wild III, ranger favored attack II, tempest II, more mana

Ranger 1, fighter 2, paladin 1 - fort save +2, divine favor (or lesser restore or virtue if you prefer), 2 base hp, extra smite II, +2 damage to all attacks, fighter haste boost II, fighter toughness II, fighter armor mastery I, +1 barkskin, ranger energy of the wild III, ranger favored attack II, tempest II, more mana


Fighter 4 - kensai, fort save +1, reflex save +1, will save +1, feat, fighter strength II, fighter haste boost II, fighter toughness II, fighter armor mastery I, 2 base hp, +2 damage to all attacks

Now you probably won't be able to afford all of the enhancement increases, so delete the ones you wouldn't take and compare lists. I'd personally go with the third option, but it's not my character.

[Soul-Shaker]

Okay when the level cap goes up how should I level my tanks?

They are 11 RGR 3 Pally & 2 FTR. I'm not going anymore pally I know that for sure. All fighter or all rgr gets 2 feats as does 1 rgr 3 ftr.

Pros and cons would be nice. Rich if you read this your advice would be greatly appreciated.

They are all str based. 2 of them duel wield one uses great axes. One duel wielder has d axes the other long swords (elf). All the standard tank feats toughness etc. all between 400-500HP.

Lol I think you might have confused ppl with original post since first post sounds like 1 build, though the wording tanks lead me to to think multiple but lvl breakdowns fits 16cap +4 when next mod come out. I know I'm confused

So clarify please. You have 3 toons that need help atm: (1) Lvl 11 rgr, (1) Lvl2 ftr, and a (1) Lvl 3 pala (that doesnt want more pala lvls ok weird... but thats how it sounds based on the 2 posts)??

[Disavowed]

11 rgr 2 ftr 3 pally. they r just specd for diff weps but all built the same

[Disavowed]

good insight ty

[Aranticus]

good insight ty

just reroll ya wuss!

[Gornn]

just reroll ya wuss!

qft.

my own addition: you could reroll but...why. They'll all just be as gimpy. So save yerself some time, and keep the guys you have.

[Disavowed]

Pis* off.

[Dark-Star]

If you have three, here is how I'd do it to add a bit of flavor to each:

1. 15ranger 2 ftr 3 pali - Tempest II, better buffs, spells, and FEs.

2. 11 ranger 6 ftr 3 pali - Tempest I, Kensai I. Probably your highest general dps build.

3. 12 ranger 2 ftr 6 pali - Tempest II, KotC I. Probably your best EO build, good for new content.

You can't really go wrong with any of the three Dis. If I was forced to choose just one path, it would be option #1.

Good luck, and you need to join us for some more Shrouds.

[Mithran]

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If you have three, here is how I'd do it to add a bit of flavor to each:

1. 15ranger 2 ftr 3 pali - Tempest II, better buffs, spells, and FEs.

2. 11 ranger 6 ftr 3 pali - Tempest I, Kensai I. Probably your highest general dps build.

3. 12 ranger 2 ftr 6 pali - Tempest II, KotC I. Probably your best EO build, good for new content.

You can't really go wrong with any of the three Dis. If I was forced to choose just one path, it would be option #1.

Good luck, and you need to join us for some more Shrouds.

#3 is what I was thinking of.

[Disavowed]

Mith I'm not real up to snuff on pallies. I'll have to look into it. I haven't really given them a chance. It seems like there is a lot of activity and buttons to push to keep the great DPS up on a pally. I'm pretty lazy and don't like to have to hit a bunch of buttons to keep up my DPS. If I'm wrong and it doesn't require that much please let me know. I probably should just roll a pure pally & see how it plays out.

[Mithran]

Mith I'm not real up to snuff on pallies. I'll have to look into it. I haven't really given them a chance. It seems like there is a lot of activity and buttons to push to keep the great DPS up on a pally. I'm pretty lazy and don't like to have to hit a bunch of buttons to keep up my DPS. If I'm wrong and it doesn't require that much please let me know. I probably should just roll a pure pally & see how it plays out.

KotC (Paladin Level 6) buffs should be passive. Two LoH's for emergency use.

[Soul-Shaker]

I would say the 3 paladin 1 rgr route is the best for balanced dps since you get 4 smites, DSI and ESI. DSI +1 crit multiplier is great if you swap your elf to rapiers(you should be using rapiers anyway unless your fighting crit immune mobs like skeli or eles LS a 1 dmg averages far less dmg then rapiers 2 higher crit power). And the 5d6 light dmg per weapon is great for any situation.

The dwarf sounds best going the kensai route since your more then likely using DA.

I dont know what to say about your 2hf really except really..... (respec or reroll lol). If its a human go kensai or paladin route with khopesh.

[Aranticus]

Mith I'm not real up to snuff on pallies. I'll have to look into it. I haven't really given them a chance. It seems like there is a lot of activity and buttons to push to keep the great DPS up on a pally. I'm pretty lazy and don't like to have to hit a bunch of buttons to keep up my DPS. If I'm wrong and it doesn't require that much please let me know. I probably should just roll a pure pally & see how it plays out.

i attest to that.... dang bugger is so lazy that on his caster he only presses 2 buttons during quests (apart from movement and targetting)...

1. haste
2. mass hold

heck! he doesnt even haste at all!