Rage spell shut off OR Block option.

[Zenako]

Alot of things I may be, but a lier iis not one of them. It was an elite run. The guy
told me he had a 64-67 AC and could break 70 with the right buffs and situations.
I didn't actually get to see his screen or log into his account. But he was definitely
getting the **** knocked out of him every few seconds.

Don't take my word for it, get your 64 -70 AC character and go in there and see if
you can be hit.

I personally can't do this experiment as I have no characters with over a 34 AC.

Not questioning you per se, just the guy claming to have that high an AC and still getting hammered in that quest. I have run with guys with good AC that was lower than that and they semi breeze thru the quest, which is why I was wondering.

[branmakmuffin]

Alot of things I may be, but a lier iis not one of them. It was an elite run. The guy
told me he had a 64-67 AC and could break 70 with the right buffs and situations.
I didn't actually get to see his screen or log into his account.

Thus demonstrating your lack of dedication to the science of AC-ology. C'mon, man, those numbers aren't going to crunch themselves!

[Oxvon]

When I cast rage on my caster I have people that don't want rage stand away from the group. Then I cast it on them :O. What I don't want is every time I get buffed to have to a pop up asking if I want the buff that would be awful.

In the end if you get rage and don't want it see if anyone can dispel you, and it will be gone....along with most of your other buffs

[Zenix_Leviticus]

Not questioning you per se, just the guy claming to have that high an AC and still getting hammered in that quest. I have run with guys with good AC that was lower than that and they semi breeze thru the quest, which is why I was wondering.

I was running with 4 others with lower than 34 AC and they weren't taking as much
damage either.


I don't know, but the list of equipment and all the math makes the whole AC build
just seem too high maintenance for me.



I just saw another post saying 'you need to have 60+ AC to be worthwhile.'


I guess I need to go home and delete all 18 of my characters.

[cforce]

Not questioning you per se, just the guy claming to have that high an AC and still getting hammered in that quest. I have run with guys with good AC that was lower than that and they semi breeze thru the quest, which is why I was wondering.

There's actually a pretty simple explanation: he was using Intimidate and/or using other aggro gathering tactics. (Getting first sight aggro, etc.) If someone has a 67 AC, there's a very good chance they've also got Intimidate.

If someone claims to have high AC, and is taking the most damage while lagging in the kill count, you can be nearly certain they're finding ways to keep aggro off of everyone else. (And, that if they weren't, you'd be healing the *rest* of the party a lot more.)

Or, they were simply lying about their 67 AC!

[Ganidel]

This has kinda turned in to a debate on how much AC you need to be effective.

Back on topic? Suggestion to stop casted rage being cast on you, or able to dismiss it.


also if you like your chars it doesnt matter what others say.

[Zenako]

There's actually a pretty simple explanation: he was using Intimidate and/or using other aggro gathering tactics. (Getting first sight aggro, etc.) If someone has a 67 AC, there's a very good chance they've also got Intimidate.

If someone claims to have high AC, and is taking the most damage while lagging in the kill count, you can be nearly certain they're finding ways to keep aggro off of everyone else. (And, that if they weren't, you'd be healing the *rest* of the party a lot more.)

Or, they were simply lying about their 67 AC!

Oh I agree, but if you don't have the AC to back up the Intim rolls, you are really just asking for a dirt nap real quick since you can outstrip the ability of almost any cleric to keep you in the upright and vertical position.

It could also be a simple case of someone overstating what they have or forgetting to actually put things into play (like CE...and forgetting to activate it). Have seen that, and those 5AC can be very important (given the concern over just 2 AC from Rage) (There back on topic)

Or the barkskin from pots was less than expected, or whatever. OR they forget to pop their minos helm back on after popping on an underwater action helm for example and thereby lose heavy fort which we all know is a death sentance in GH.

[cforce]

Back on topic? Suggestion to stop casted rage being cast on you, or able to dismiss it.

Topic? What was the topic again?

Oh, yeah. Two thumbs up to OP's suggestion: I'd take a confirm dialog with a "Don't Ever Ask Me This Again" checkbox, or the ability to dismiss the spell. Or a checkbox in the "Gameplay" section of the options screen.

I bet the first is the quickest to code: they've already got the hook for Raise Dead, and just need to add a "don't ever ask this again" piece of config.

[Zenix_Leviticus]

There's actually a pretty simple explanation: he was using Intimidate and/or using other aggro gathering tactics. (Getting first sight aggro, etc.) If someone has a 67 AC, there's a very good chance they've also got Intimidate.

If someone claims to have high AC, and is taking the most damage while lagging in the kill count, you can be nearly certain they're finding ways to keep aggro off of everyone else. (And, that if they weren't, you'd be healing the *rest* of the party a lot more.)

Or, they were simply lying about their 67 AC!

You know what, you are probably right on the intimdate thing. I think he was using
intimidate. However, I have run that many times before and many times since then
and have never had any problems healing the whole group of low AC characters.

I would have thought that with double the AC of anyone else that he couldn't be hit
except for a roll of 20. Maybe the ogres had loaded dice.


Even though I prefer DPS+HP vs AC, I still think the OP's suggestion is a good one. I
think it could be done via the gameplay UI.

[Junts]

You know what, you are probably right on the intimdate thing. I think he was using
intimidate. However, I have run that many times before and many times since then
and have never had any problems healing the whole group of low AC characters.

I would have thought that with double the AC of anyone else that he couldn't be hit
except for a roll of 20. Maybe the ogres had loaded dice.


Even though I prefer DPS+HP vs AC, I still think the OP's suggestion is a good one. I
think it could be done via the gameplay UI.

ogres have better than a 20/ critrange, as you have clearly noticed by now

also, ac doesn't help with spell damage

[branmakmuffin]

ac doesn't help with spell damage

That's why any melee without Evasion is gimped.