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[Samadhi]

you Should Shut Up Now, You're Digging Yourself Further Into A Hole W/ Each Post. You Lied, Photoshop'd A Screenshot, And Now Your Trying To Rationalize Your Way Out Of It. You Have Zero Credibility In All Things Now. Some People Used To Take You Seriously, But Thats All Over Now. The Only Thing That Will Save And Shred Of Decency You Might Have Had At One Time Is To Show The D-axe To Someone. Period End Of Discussion. You Are Now The Laughing Stock Of Argonnessen, And I'm Sure Other Servers As Well.

Qft

[Show_me_the_Platinum]

Or they come up with something lame, like they don't want people to know the character this weapon is on b/c they'll get too many tells to sell it?

obviously you have nothing of value on argo.

Though no one has responded to my comment about how everyone on the forums obviously doesn't play the game often enough to know that these things happen. Or that people that post on the forums religiously are a laughing joke on the servers as many have said "Only idiots and people with to much time post on the forums." though when told that it is the people on the forums are the ones being catered to with the new content and changes they get scared.

No one also replied to the fact that at one point no one wanted rangers in their party because it was a worthless class or that at one point sword and board was king and anyone with two weapons out was laughed at.

Everyone claims to think outside the box yet the battle wizard yells at the battle cleric "Put that sword away and pull out a wand."

Everyone claims that clerics don't use anything in the shroud, when I know 2 people that refused to do anymore shroud raids with their clerics because the cost is to high.

Everyone says I'm wrong about these things, but yet never has evidence to back these things up to support their credibility. Yet when I claim to have something and posted the evidence everyone screams fake and says I'm not credible.

Evidence still in waiting
Rizzn's Solo run end content submission.
Videos of Shroud part 4 with 2 clerics at half SP at the end of part 4 without using wands/scrolls/or SP pots
Dwarf TWF who hit for 200-400 points of damage every hit (as some have claimed on the servers).

So ya my lack of showing this item in game TOTALLY overshadows the lack of evidence from other people. I mean come on I don't want to show the weapons so OBVIOUSLY it doesn't exist even though another person told people to relax and that it does RARELY drop as a END REWARD on some quests.

[Mhykke]

obviously you have nothing of value on argo.

So that's what you're going to go with? That I have nothing "of value" on argo?

Really?


As for the rest:

[Aspenor]

obviously you have nothing of value on argo.

Though no one has responded to my comment about how everyone on the forums obviously doesn't play the game often enough to know that these things happen. Or that people that post on the forums religiously are a laughing joke on the servers as many have said "Only idiots and people with to much time post on the forums." though when told that it is the people on the forums are the ones being catered to with the new content and changes they get scared.

No one also replied to the fact that at one point no one wanted rangers in their party because it was a worthless class or that at one point sword and board was king and anyone with two weapons out was laughed at.

Everyone claims to think outside the box yet the battle wizard yells at the battle cleric "Put that sword away and pull out a wand."

Everyone claims that clerics don't use anything in the shroud, when I know 2 people that refused to do anymore shroud raids with their clerics because the cost is to high.

Everyone says I'm wrong about these things, but yet never has evidence to back these things up to support their credibility. Yet when I claim to have something and posted the evidence everyone screams fake and says I'm not credible.

Evidence still in waiting
Rizzn's Solo run end content submission.
Videos of Shroud part 4 with 2 clerics at half SP at the end of part 4 without using wands/scrolls/or SP pots
Dwarf TWF who hit for 200-400 points of damage every hit (as some have claimed on the servers).

So ya my lack of showing this item in game TOTALLY overshadows the lack of evidence from other people. I mean come on I don't want to show the weapons so OBVIOUSLY it doesn't exist even though another person told people to relax and that it does RARELY drop as a END REWARD on some quests.

You are arguing with the paramount players on the very same server on which you play. You want to see how it happens, figure out who we are and come see it happen. You go ahead and continue believing your delusions, and we'll continue obliterating content so easily we could have done it sleeping.

Who are you, anyway? What are your character names? What guild are you in?

Here's my info:
Azpenor, Glum, Illusionary, Aerren, Goregarr
Guild: Archmagi

Tell us who you are, and who you play with, and we'll explain why your friends struggle so badly.

[Anastasios]

So that's what you're going to go with? That I have nothing "of value" on argo?

Really?

Anyone that has Blah riding their back probably has plenty to offer Argo...

Though no one has responded to my comment about how everyone on the forums obviously doesn't play the game often enough to know that these things happen. Or that people that post on the forums religiously are a laughing joke on the servers as many have said "Only idiots and people with to much time post on the forums." though when told that it is the people on the forums are the ones being catered to with the new content and changes they get scared.

Your fallback for those who have called you out on your actions is a very very weak argument, it has no bearing whatsoever in what you did in this thread...it actually put you on the defensive, and made you try to laugh off and shrug off the event...Seems to me you can't even justify your own actions, expecially when so many others already know the route you are trying to take to get out of your predicament.

Credibility goes a long way, most people who take advantage of the forums have a decent amount of knowledge in regards to the game...you will never see me arguing with people as to 'stats and gear' considering it all boils down to player anyways...

Considering your stance and actions, it would be safe to say that you aren't that good of a player considering you can't even rationalize your own actions here.

The fact is other players have been spoiled by some of the better players on the server because they have been in runs where they did not have to do much to help out those 'well geared and talented' individuals...then they think afterwards every run should be a cakewalk.

It doesn't work that way, and I've been through every change possible, and that, according to you, somehow makes me afraid of what Turbine decides to change in the future? Give it up, you've already ranted enough of why 'the bad people' are out to get you, when in actuality it is the 'the bad people' who are helping the forums maintain a sense of protocol when it comes down to credibility and sensibility.

Apologize for being a *****, you've already eaten my cookies and brownies. Afterwards you can get on with your bad self on these forums...until then, noone is going to take you seriously, and I can't say I blame em.

[BLAKROC]

When they admit that a Scimy and Kukri of wounding and puncturing outdoes any Kopesh and saves you feats

and to think i almost missed another imbecilic post by this dude .

I think he is batting 1000 on the db scale.

[Show_me_the_Platinum]

and yet still no one does. I called into question Rizzn's credibility a long time ago, but no one seems to care about that. No one responded to the person who said it does drop from the end reward list sometimes because they would rather admit I'm wrong then I'm right. I hear you guys time and time again talking about how "You're the top players on your servers" yet I've never heard of any of you on the servers. I've never seen your names on and of the LFMs and I ask people "Have you heard of ____." and they say who? I've never heard of them.

It isn't just me guys, open your eyes it is a majority of the players who actually play the game that think this way. They are getting annoyed with your playing habits and refusing to play that way. Maybe you guys see each other so much in the shroud is because many people have left it saying "Let the miny maxers have that one. I'm going to go have fun." I know lots of people who said "I refuse to take bards anymore, they are all battle bards who think they are god but can't hit anything, and take more DPS then they hand out."

I'm still waiting for responses to what I said. I'm not shocked that you're still avoiding those issues I brought up.

No one also replied to the fact that at one point no one wanted rangers in their party because it was a worthless class or that at one point sword and board was king and anyone with two weapons out was laughed at.

Everyone claims to think outside the box yet the battle wizard yells at the battle cleric "Put that sword away and pull out a wand."

Everyone claims that clerics don't use anything in the shroud, when I know 2 people that refused to do anymore shroud raids with their clerics because the cost is to high.

Everyone says I'm wrong about these things, but yet never has evidence to back these things up to support their credibility. Yet when I claim to have something and posted the evidence everyone screams fake and says I'm not credible.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...mqui090302.gif

[Aspenor]

and yet still no one does. I called into question Rizzn's credibility a long time ago, but no one seems to care about that. No one responded to the person who said it does drop from the end reward list sometimes because they would rather admit I'm wrong then I'm right. I hear you guys time and time again talking about how "You're the top players on your servers" yet I've never heard of any of you on the servers. I've never seen your names on and of the LFMs and I ask people "Have you heard of ____." and they say who? I've never heard of them.

It isn't just me guys, open your eyes it is a majority of the players who actually play the game that think this way. They are getting annoyed with your playing habits and refusing to play that way. Maybe you guys see each other so much in the shroud is because many people have left it saying "Let the miny maxers have that one. I'm going to go have fun." I know lots of people who said "I refuse to take bards anymore, they are all battle bards who think they are god but can't hit anything, and take more DPS then they hand out."

I'm still waiting for responses to what I said. I'm not shocked that you're still avoiding those issues I brought up.

No one also replied to the fact that at one point no one wanted rangers in their party because it was a worthless class or that at one point sword and board was king and anyone with two weapons out was laughed at.

Everyone claims to think outside the box yet the battle wizard yells at the battle cleric "Put that sword away and pull out a wand."

Everyone claims that clerics don't use anything in the shroud, when I know 2 people that refused to do anymore shroud raids with their clerics because the cost is to high.

Everyone says I'm wrong about these things, but yet never has evidence to back these things up to support their credibility. Yet when I claim to have something and posted the evidence everyone screams fake and says I'm not credible.

The guy that referenced the "end reward" was joking and being sarcastic. He knows as well as we do the item doesn't exist.

The reason the noobs you're talking about don't know us is because they are just that, noobs.

[Show_me_the_Platinum]

I'm still waiting for responses to what I said. I'm not shocked that you're still avoiding those issues I brought up.

No one also replied to the fact that at one point no one wanted rangers in their party because it was a worthless class or that at one point sword and board was king and anyone with two weapons out was laughed at.

Everyone claims to think outside the box yet the battle wizard yells at the battle cleric "Put that sword away and pull out a wand."

Everyone claims that clerics don't use anything in the shroud, when I know 2 people that refused to do anymore shroud raids with their clerics because the cost is to high.

Everyone says I'm wrong about these things, but yet never has evidence to back these things up to support their credibility. Yet when I claim to have something and posted the evidence everyone screams fake and says I'm not credible.

[SteeleTrueheart]

obviously you have nothing of value on argo.

So ya my lack of showing this item in game TOTALLY overshadows the lack of evidence from other people. I mean come on I don't want to show the weapons so OBVIOUSLY it doesn't exist even though another person told people to relax and that it does RARELY drop as a END REWARD on some quests.

Hi Show_me,

I normally do not get involved in flame threads, but since I am generally known to be a semi-nice person on these boards (for whatever an internet opinion is worth) I can offer a confidential service. I will be happy to see this item in game and take a screenshot. The characters name and any other details you wish can be kept secret at your discretion. I will then post a screenshot (cropped to show only the weapon details and no personal info) into this thread.

I offer this service as I am genuinely interested in seeing a slashing puncturing weapon.

PM me if interested.

Steele Trueheart

[Mhykke]

and yet still no one does. I called into question Rizzn's credibility a long time ago, but no one seems to care about that. No one responded to the person who said it does drop from the end reward list sometimes because they would rather admit I'm wrong then I'm right. I hear you guys time and time again talking about how "You're the top players on your servers" yet I've never heard of any of you on the servers. I've never seen your names on and of the LFMs and I ask people "Have you heard of ____." and they say who? I've never heard of them.

Nobody cares about your questioning "rizzn's credibility" b/c people know rizzn is capable of running a simple quest by himself.

Oh, and I've never claimed anything even close to being one of the "top players on [my] server".

It isn't just me guys, open your eyes it is a majority of the players who actually play the game that think this way. They are getting annoyed with your playing habits and refusing to play that way. Maybe you guys see each other so much in the shroud is because many people have left it saying "Let the miny maxers have that one. I'm going to go have fun." I know lots of people who said "I refuse to take bards anymore, they are all battle bards who think they are god but can't hit anything, and take more DPS then they hand out."

Maybe if your groups took a bard with you in the shroud, your clerics wouldn't be spending the resources that you claim they are.

I'm still waiting for responses to what I said. I'm not shocked that you're still avoiding those issues I brought up.

That's b/c what you said is nonsensical rambling. You want to shut people up? It's a simple matter of showing people the item you claim to have.

No one also replied to the fact that at one point no one wanted rangers in their party because it was a worthless class or that at one point sword and board was king and anyone with two weapons out was laughed at.

What do these claims, even if correct, have to do with anything?

Everyone claims to think outside the box yet the battle wizard yells at the battle cleric "Put that sword away and pull out a wand."

Umm, what?

Everyone claims that clerics don't use anything in the shroud, when I know 2 people that refused to do anymore shroud raids with their clerics because the cost is to high.

Take a bard. Bring some characters that can actually do damage.

Everyone says I'm wrong about these things, but yet never has evidence to back these things up to support their credibility. Yet when I claim to have something and posted the evidence everyone screams fake and says I'm not credible.

Again? Want to prove people wrong? Show someone on your server the item. If not, then shut yer pie hole.

(Oh, and this is ignoring your argument that wounding/puncturing scimitars and kukris were better than khopeshes. Even if you have this bugged item, it doesn't absolve the absurdity of your original point).

[boldarblood]

person who said it does drop from the end reward list

Which they posted a screenshot of said item a few lines down. It was the one you claimed to be photoshopped. Just like your weapon is.

There is still an easy way for you to make everyone eat there words. But you are incapable of doing it because it is a fake.

You post an item that does not exist. You lied. You have been called on it and are now trying to backpedal. That is why people are questioning your credability. It takes all of a few seconds to prove to everyone you are not.

[FluffyCalico]

Actually. It's because people say DPS is king when what Harry in the shroud takes half a round less to kill then with greater outsider bane weapons?

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Personally I like killing him in 1 round. That way you can single cleric it with 0 resources used. Worst case you get some people with poor weapons and take him early in the 2nd. The 2nd cleric can be there as OMG what happened back up.

[Aranticus]

show, i'm not going to insult you in this reply. will try to put it as painlessly and as easy to understand for you. note the stuff in red

and yet still no one does. I called into question Rizzn's credibility a long time ago, but no one seems to care about that.

there are a couple of things here. most of what rizzn have said is factually based. most people on this thread knows their stuff. most can also, with one look of your posts, determine you are the one who is less credible. you calling rizzn out on credibility is like maldoff calling soros out on his financial exploits

No one responded to the person who said it does drop from the end reward list sometimes because they would rather admit I'm wrong then I'm right.

you can be right for that 1 moment which is why we are asking to see it in person for verification. DDO has many dubious items, which is the result of loot table c0ckups. that said in general 99.99% of w/p are on piercing weapons. it just like humans. how many humans have special powers? unheard of? no. rare? extremely. the next step is to verify it. is that particular person really special? yes? good. no? its a cheat

I hear you guys time and time again talking about how "You're the top players on your servers" yet I've never heard of any of you on the servers. I've never seen your names on and of the LFMs and I ask people "Have you heard of ____." and they say who? I've never heard of them.

a lot of good players run in a tight circle of friends. while i'm not a top player, i can actually fill my raid group up before posting an lfm simply by tapping into guild and friends. more importantly is the game time. i know most of the players who run with me around my prime time but those 12 hrs from me, i barely know 20%

It isn't just me guys, open your eyes it is a majority of the players who actually play the game that think this way. They are getting annoyed with your playing habits and refusing to play that way. Maybe you guys see each other so much in the shroud is because many people have left it saying "Let the miny maxers have that one. I'm going to go have fun." I know lots of people who said "I refuse to take bards anymore, they are all battle bards who think they are god but can't hit anything, and take more DPS then they hand out."

i do not think most people are excluding others but the general perception here is people are excluding the untruths posted. for one, i will generally accept anyone who is willing to contribute to the make up of my party as long as they are play the role they are applying for. people are not excluding a class or playstyle, they are excluding bad play and bad builds. why would i take a 12str 12 con fighter that keeps dying in the quests repeatly

I'm still waiting for responses to what I said. I'm not shocked that you're still avoiding those issues I brought up.

you have gotten alot of responses, you just chose to blindly rant on

No one also replied to the fact that at one point no one wanted rangers in their party because it was a worthless class or that at one point sword and board was king and anyone with two weapons out was laughed at.

i had a pre tempest ranger. i was not excluded from parties. the key thing is i was able to take care of myself, deal respectable damage and more importantly, i didnt drag mobs around that i cant kill, and get killed. it was a worthless class as many bad players think they are uber with a bow kiting a train of mobs. good play wins the day anytime.

Everyone claims to think outside the box yet the battle wizard yells at the battle cleric "Put that sword away and pull out a wand."

i dun expect the battle cleric to heal but i expect the battle cleric who applied for the healer role to heal. most people too

Everyone claims that clerics don't use anything in the shroud, when I know 2 people that refused to do anymore shroud raids with their clerics because the cost is to high.

i've done combine 100+ shrouds on my clerics. 50 or so runs were w/o resources, 40 were with less than 50 scrolls. 8 prolly with 1-2 pots used and 2 disastrous ones with at least 5 pots used. i manage my healing and my resources, i work it out with the other cleric so that we do not over heal. i identify the mana sponges in the party and more importantly, i quit running with noobs who refuse to play better

Everyone says I'm wrong about these things, but yet never has evidence to back these things up to support their credibility. Yet when I claim to have something and posted the evidence everyone screams fake and says I'm not credible.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...mqui090302.gif

alot of that evidence are FACTUAL which are common knowledge and accepted. there is a difference

[Accelerando]

Slashering trumps Puncturing on an axe anyday.
Nuff said. End of thread.

[Kiranselie]

Evidence still in waiting
Rizzn's Solo run end content submission.

My characters are in my signature, but in case you havent bothered to look, Kiranselie, Goewyn, Nimira, Gangzta, Guild Archmagi.

Like I invited you earlier to do, You can ride in my backpack while I solo the quests that I said I can do, Hell, I'll even post lfm's everynight just for you.

I play on Argo, and I'm on every night.

This goes for everyone who reads this thread, the lfm's will be up everynight for the next week, around 10pm Eastern Standard Time, be on the lookout.

Better yet, post your character names and guild here so I know who it is that wants to watch. Its time for you to put up or shut up.

Oh, and most people call me by my name, Bo. You can call me Mr. Kirkpatrick.

[Nick_RC]

obviously you have nothing of value on argo.

Dude you are such a meathead. Seriously. You want proof of what we do in Archmagi and what friends and I do for fun check the links in my sig. Do you even have high level toons and if somaybe we should take you on a little outting. You have my word there will be no open hostilities. My main is in my sig. Come and run with the big boys and ul see ample evidence.

You got some challenges to put out let me knw.

N

[bandyman1]

I love this thread.

Seriously; It should be sticked to the top of the Argo forums.

Maybe change the title though.....hummm...somthing like; Show-us-the-Harbor Noob.