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    Default Escapist Magazine Drops the Hammer on Turbine Fans

    Having recently joined up (like many of you) to vote for Escapist Magazine's March Madness '09 I've been posting and reading their forums regularly. Turbine fans have not received the warmest of welcomes from the community at large, but the mods have remained very fair handed...that is up until now. While I personally haven't been banned yet, I can't help but notice that all bans are coming towards community members showing any sort of pro-Turbine or recent sign up alignment, while it passes over those spewing hate speech. For instance, this recent post and poster had been banned:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ungabunga
    All the Turbine fans are doing is turning out to vote. Your favorite devs have that opportunity - they or their communities are either uninterested or unmotivated. You can't blame Turbine fans for that, you have to blame their rivals who don't vote or communicate this event. Come on Krakyn, take back the title then - motivate your communities, post on their forums. It takes about 20 seconds. I don't care about the results although I'd like to see Turbine win just for the publicity. I actually want more people playing the game and in my on-line community, which is the whole point of this affair for the majority of the pro-Turbine posters.

    No hard feelings to anyone. And please check out DDO if you haven't.

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    Or this one:
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    Sadly, What will Hurt your Community the Most from not Keeping the Attention from members of the turbine Loyalist is the Lvl of Maturity of Allot of your Trolls, I have been Dis-Heartened by it. I Cannot Speak for AC or Lotro as I do not play Either, but The DDO Community Is a More Mature Audience than What you will find in Allot of MMO's. We have our own Drama in Forums at Times but not to the extents seen else where, Including Here .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen Ringbearer
    Yes, Sega has seniority. And yes, Turbine asks it's players to vote. But if Sega had an online fanbase they would too. All the Shadow the Hedgehog spinoffs? Sega is just as bad as any other company to try and milk anything they can. IMHO everybody is just mad at Turbine and LOTRO for winning all the awards they did last year. :P

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    Cross-forum quoting isn't as easy as I thought, all posts above can be found here (among others that may actually be considered more benign) - http://www.escapistmagazine.com/foru...3#comment_form

    Now my point isn't to rally the Turbine community and flood the Escapist's forums with anti-censorship rhettoric (though by all means feel free). For me the biggest realization about all this was that we all inhabit a forum and community where censorship and sterilization of topics take a backseat to maturity and debate. I actually feel lucky that the majority of my posting goes on here at forums.ddo.com and not a site where dissent begets the ban-hammer.

    By the end of the Escapist's contest I doubt that Turbine will hold the reigns again as a large part of the community has spoken up and declared they will vote against Turbine no matter the opponent (combining that with the fact that Turbine fans are being banned left and right hurts our numbers a bit).

    If you haven't already signed up and gotten out to vote and participate it isn't too late! Round 2 may be winding down, but there are 3 more rounds to go! I don't care if you vote for Turbine or whomever your whim fancies, but go sign up, vote and speak out about your choice!
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    Jusat as many, if not more Sega/Anti-Turbine Zealots have been Probationed/Banned.
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    I had found one pro-Sega fan who was banned (can't find it now though), I welcome any quotes or a link if you can find it. If I'm being unfair and the Escapist truly has brought justice down on both sides I'll admit it, but I can't find any of these cases.
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    I was banned for saying this.

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    I voted Turbine again since they have made the two games that I've had the most fun playing over the last 10 years, AC1 and DDO.

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    Oh, and I lurk here and joined way before this poll but don't post because the community is not worth the effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Jusat as many, if not more Sega/Anti-Turbine Zealots have been Probationed/Banned.
    Must have been earlier in the thread. I read back about 6 pages (17-23 range) and found only 1 non-Turbinite that got nailed.

    But still, suggest just going for the vote and avoid saying anything remotely associated with the 'drama' on their forum.


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    Or 2 non-turbinites now, so I hear.
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    Thanks for this post.

    I wasnt gonna vote, but now I have too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik View Post
    Thanks for this post.

    I wasnt gonna vote, but now I have too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaidendager View Post
    I had found one pro-Sega fan who was banned (can't find it now though), I welcome any quotes or a link if you can find it. If I'm being unfair and the Escapist truly has brought justice down on both sides I'll admit it, but I can't find any of these cases.
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    THose are the only 2 I See now though.. Interesting.. I think some were Deleted. But then again, I coulda swore that Goater24 and Sar77 people got dinged.... But they show up fine now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
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    DrRock is actually a Turbinite as shown here:

    Quote Originally Posted by DrRock
    I needed another forum like a hole in the head, but then I see all this Turbine hate and it seems almost rude not to register and vote for them.

    Plus I wouldn't want people to think that the Turbine supporters so far are anything but the vanguard for the main force.

    ;o)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Jusat as many, if not more Sega/Anti-Turbine Zealots have been Probationed/Banned.
    I saw only two last count. Seriously.

    Being one of those that got a temp ban, I went and actually counted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaidendager View Post
    I had found one pro-Sega fan who was banned (can't find it now though), I welcome any quotes or a link if you can find it. If I'm being unfair and the Escapist truly has brought justice down on both sides I'll admit it, but I can't find any of these cases.
    They banned the virilent Anti-Turbine folks first... then they posted saying that they didn't want to see ANY more posts between the two sides...

    So yeah, you're being unfair.. The moderators over there are tired of the flame wars and have decided to come down hard on anyone posting ANYTHING that brings up the whole Turbine vs. Escapists...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimdiegn View Post
    I was banned for saying this.

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    I voted Turbine again since they have made the two games that I've had the most fun playing over the last 10 years, AC1 and DDO.

    Edit:
    Oh, and I lurk here and joined way before this poll but don't post because the community is not worth the effort.
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    You got banned for the edit... The moderators are done with flaming... You flamed their community... Only discussion should be about the developers and their games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missing Minds View Post
    I saw only two last count. Seriously.

    Being one of those that got a temp ban, I went and actually counted.
    You guys looking in Round 3 only? Round 2 had a bunch of Escapists banned or put on probation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    You guys looking in Round 3 only? Round 2 had a bunch of Escapists banned or put on probation...
    Nope, only counted round 2. And if you didn't keep a constant count, your count wont' be accurate due to the fact of probation is only 3 days.

    My count was only of round 2, with the last double check the last hours of round 2.

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