Potential Intimitank DPS Fighter Build

[Asketes]

Race and Class:
Human Fighter Stalwart Defender

Intention:
Effective Intimitank with respectable, but not kill count leading, DPS

LVL 16 Stats:
+2 tomes of STR, DEX, CON, & CHA eaten at LVL 1
+6 items worn for the previously mentioned stats.

STR: 32 (+4 when in defender stance)
DEX: 22
CON: 22 (+4 when in defender stance)
INT: 13
WIS: 8
CHA: 22

Predicted Beholder Hit Points:
228 - LVL 16
30 - Proof of Poison belt of Greater False Life Belt
18 - Minos Legens Helm
54 - 3 Toughness Feats
20 - 2 Fighter Toughness Enhancements
20 - 2 Fighter Racial Toughness Enhancements
Total: 370 Hit Points


Predicted Beholder AC:
Dodge and untyped bonuses stack

10 - Base
6 - Dex Bonus (enhancements allow for 6 dex bonus on both tower shield and armor)
15 - Dragontouched Plate Armor (Armor bonus)
1 - Armor Eldritch Ritual (Dodge bonus)
9 - Leviks Defender Tower Shield (Shield Bonus)
1 - Shield Eldritch Ritual (Dodge bonus)
5 - Leviks 3 part set (shield, DT armor, bracers) (Insight bonus)
5 - Protection (deflection bonus)
1 - Feat: Dodge (dodge bonus)
5 - Combat Expertise
3 - Stalwart Defender I, II, III increases (1 each, untyped)
3 - Stalwart Defender Shield Block Bonus I, II, III increases (1 each, untyped)
2 - Shield Block standard (shield bonus, stackable)
Total: 66 AC


Projected Raid Buffed AC:
Start 66 AC from previous
(some of these buffs are unknown to me which type of bonus it is, yet they seem to stack when implemented in game)

*THIS is MAX, short-term BURST AC, sustainable for only 20 Seconds at a time due to Human Versatility Boost.

4 - Human Versatility (untyped)
1 - Haste (dodge bonus)
2 - Recitation (luck bonus)
4 - Inspire Heroics (ac song)
4 - Stalwart Defender Defensive Stance Boost (Dodge)
5 - Barkskin (Natural)
5 - Bulwark of Good Palidin Aura (untyped)
Raid Buffed BURST AC: 91


Estimated Damage Reduction:
6 - 2 Feats (Shield and Improved Shield Mastery
6 - Standard when using (not blocking) with a shield (stalwart defender bonus)
15 - Leviks Defender Tower Shield
10 - Stoneskin (Mineral weapon casts stoneskin 15^10)
? - Stalwart Defender grants additional (amount unkown) DR when blocking with a shield
Total DR: 37+ unknown amount while blocking


INTIMIDATE:
(sustainable for 11 minutes, self casted GH length)

19 - Skill Points
6 - Charisma Modifier
2 - Feat: Bullheaded
3 - Feat: Skill Focus Intimidate
6 - Stalwart Defender Non-Boost
4 - Greater Heroism
13 - Ring of intimidation
4 - Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate
6 - Greensteel Cha Skills Item
TOTAL INTIMIDATE: 63

Burst Intimidate:
(20 Seconds Sustainable due to Human Versatility boost)
Start with 63 from previous
2 - Inspire Competence
4 - Human Versatility
Total BURST Intimidate: 69

I'm interested in what you guys think? What do you think is good about this build and what do you think is not good about it?

Obvisouly this isn't a kill count leader, but w/a 32str, should be able to do some damage. I've taken feats for an extra +3 to ATK rolls and +2 to damage, I like bastard swords over Kopesh (don't ask hehe) and I have taken Imp critical as well.

[Blazer]

Feat list?

[Asketes]

I was looking more for input on the AC, STR and Intim qualities.

My feat list is fine, although I can post if you want.

Let me know please!


Thanks for your time!

[Junts]

Your feat list looks terrible; 3 toughnesses?


Drop 2 int points and eat a tome; those build points are much more useful somewhere else.

If you have that many feats to burn, qualify for some kensai ranks and get more stacking +intim and twf usefulness

[Asketes]

The build is not designed for TWF, I have no desire to bump up my dex to 17 for improved or greater twf.. That's what my barbarian is for.

This is not a dps machine. I don't have an int tome, nor do I care to have one. Why don't you advise where to put the points instead of telling me to take them off? Try to make a little sense please. Telling someone to not do something and leaving out what they should do instead doesn't do much for either of us.

make sense?

and I have so many feats I ran out of stuff I wanted, so I dumped into toughness.

BTW I am full up on enhancements for Stalwart Defender I am unable to put kensai in the list, nor am I interested in it. (remember not full dps, merely semi-decent at a 32 str sword and board)

My intim is as maxed as it can be w/o pumping more into Charisma, which i'm not willing to do. Any suggestions? I have all the feats for intim, as I've previously posted.

[Asketes]

You guys request my feat list

This is a build not centered around being uber DPS, I wasn't sure whether to take greater weapon focus or force of personality for the extra 6 to my will saves.

These are obviously still in the developmental stages of character planning. BUT they work for what I am intending.

Feats:

Level 1
Comabat Expertise
Dodge
Toughness

Level 2
Exotic Weapon Bastard Sword

Level 3
Mobility

Level 4
Spring Attack

Level 5

Level 6
Toughness
Whirlwind Attack

Level 7

Level 8
Shield Mastery

Level 9
Skill Focus: Intimidate

Level 10
Improved Shield Mastery

Level 11

Level 12
Toughness
Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons

Level 13

Level 14
Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons

Level 15
Bullheaded

Level 16
Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

I appreciate everyone who has helped thus far offering there advice. Please remember, it's a lot more helpful to me and those reading this thread to not only inform me of my mistakes, but what you would to to correct or alter in order to better this build!

Thanks guys

[Dark-Star]

Looks good from an ac and intim perspective, WF with a DoD will give you 10 more blocking DR at the cost of some intim points.

I'd say that a sword and board fighter is not decent dps, in fact I am hard pressed to think of any melee class with less dps than this.

I second the idea of fitting in gtwf for more versatility and group/raid usefulness.

[Junts]

The build is not designed for TWF, I have no desire to bump up my dex to 17 for improved or greater twf.. That's what my barbarian is for.

This is not a dps machine. I don't have an int tome, nor do I care to have one. Why don't you advise where to put the points instead of telling me to take them off? Try to make a little sense please. Telling someone to not do something and leaving out what they should do instead doesn't do much for either of us.

make sense?

and I have so many feats I ran out of stuff I wanted, so I dumped into toughness.

BTW I am full up on enhancements for Stalwart Defender I am unable to put kensai in the list, nor am I interested in it. (remember not full dps, merely semi-decent at a 32 str sword and board)

My intim is as maxed as it can be w/o pumping more into Charisma, which i'm not willing to do. Any suggestions? I have all the feats for intim, as I've previously posted.

You are planning on 4 kinds of +2 tome; trade one of them for intelligence. You never, ever need more than 13 int; however, you need as much str/con (and dex, imo, because you will not be a 'semi-effective dps' fighter w/o the addition of the twf chain; its the main reason to make a fighter intimitank over the other alternatives like paladin!). Dropping int 2 and using a tome while using those 2 build points to boost some other stat by 1 is a much better investment; essetnially, you are eating a second, stacking +1 tome for that statistic.

In fact, all you need to qualify for the twf chain is to put those 2 bp into dexterity (15 instead of 14 base, 17 with tome): then you have the option of both being excellent at combat -and- an intimitank; all it costs you is trading any of your +2 tomes for a +2 intelligence, which is extremely easy to do. Why hurt yourself so massively in the long-run over such a short-run issue?

My paladin is a s/b intimitank, and even -with- the paladin 10% alclarity, 32 str, and divine favor/might (+7 to damage) with a khopesh (much, much, much better than a bastardsword) my dps is no more than fair; you are not building a s/b fighter with any more dps than any other s/b tank: you are in fact building one with -less-.

However, a simple intelligence tome (remember tomes count for feat qualification) lets you -also- twf with the best of them and a 32 str .. again, why isn't this more desirable?


drop mobility, spring attack, whirlwind attack and 2 of yourtoughnesses and make sure you can take kensai 3: it will make you an extraordinary dps machine in dps mode (and get yourself either da's or khopeshes) for basically no loss; those feats are doing very little for you, and the kensai ranks even improve your intimidate.

[Asketes]

can one even do stalwart defender AND kensai?

[Junts]

can one even do stalwart defender AND kensai?

nope; on the other hand, you haven't even set up your dex to take advantage fully of stalwart defender (you'd need even more to capitalize on its mdb bonus).


even without kensai, twf option is worthwhile: your ac and intimidate simply don't matter in the shroud or sos, enter the kobold,etc

[Asketes]

nope; on the other hand, you haven't even set up your dex to take advantage fully of stalwart defender (you'd need even more to capitalize on its mdb bonus).


even without kensai, twf option is worthwhile: your ac and intimidate simply don't matter in the shroud or sos, enter the kobold,etc

ARE YOU SERIOUS?!!!

Dude go back to making high dex monks that do no damage.

If i'm sitting at a 75-85 AC an extra pt of dex (ac) isn't gonna make a whole h*ll of a lot of difference.

LOL really?

really?

[Asketes]

nope; on the other hand, you haven't even set up your dex to take advantage fully of stalwart defender (you'd need even more to capitalize on its mdb bonus).


even without kensai, twf option is worthwhile: your ac and intimidate simply don't matter in the shroud or sos, enter the kobold,etc

WOW you must never had used an intim toon b4.

I constantly use intim in shroud to keep trash in the fog, same w/ kobold or ANY quest!

Name another way that keeps mobs where you want them that has NO save (so long as you have high enough intim skill)

[jmonty]

WOW you must never had used an intim toon b4.

I constantly use intim in shroud to keep trash in the fog, same w/ kobold or ANY quest!

Name another way that keeps mobs where you want them that has NO save (so long as you have high enough intim skill)

doesn't matter if you use it, it isn't always needed. dps is almost always.

[Asketes]

doesn't matter if you use it, it isn't always needed. dps is almost always.

this is very true. which is why I kept my str high.