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    havent played in 3 days cause it sucks so bad. i log on try to run something, lag the **** out, log out and watch some lame ass movie for the 43rd time. fix the **** lag please. tell us you are doing something about it, trying, attempting to fix it, attempting to begin to discuss having a conversation about when you might be able to get around to trying to fix it, anything. please. let's just not ignore it anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingfisher View Post
    havent played in 3 days cause it sucks so bad. i log on try to run something, lag the **** out, log out and watch some lame ass movie for the 43rd time. fix the **** lag please. tell us you are doing something about it, trying, attempting to fix it, attempting to begin to discuss having a conversation about when you might be able to get around to trying to fix it, anything. please. let's just not ignore it anymore.
    I heard they are going to fix it.


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    If DDO was an FPS - this would be a real-time, full-speed capture...



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    What are you talking about? I never have lag. Must be your ISP/graphics card. /sarcasm off


    If everyone who experiencing lag puts it in their signature, maybe someone somewhere will notice - oh wait, we've been doing that for a week now and still nothing.

    Maybe if everyone who experiences lag files a ticket in game that would help. Nope, been doing that too.

    I am not a doomsayer, never have been. But I love this game, and I hate that I can't play it. It is sooo frustrating.

    Please Turbine, fix the lag.
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    [QUOTE=weyoun;2092812]

    I am not a doomsayer, never have been. But I love this game, and I hate that I can't play it. It is sooo frustrating.
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    this is the killer for me too. i love this game, been playing a long time and still have lots to do with no end of entertainment in sight. i happily pay my money each month. I bought a new puter, upgraded my vid card and my connection. plenty of content for me. no issues with the game at all. but this ****ing lag ******** has got to go. it's totally ridiculous and it is going to kill your product.

    whatever you did about 3 months ago changed the lag for the worse. start there.

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    I don't get it. I do notice the lag but it never makes the game unplayable for me.

    I'm playing on a 6 year old comp that is far from uber and really never feel the need to come to the forums and ***** to the dev's about lag.

    Maybe i'm just lucky.......but then again i've never pulled a +2 tome.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by miceelf88 View Post
    I know, I guess, that the devs probably can't talk about it, because some suit made some boneheaded decision about a server or somesuch, but it's really frustrating to feel that this problem is being ignored.
    I pulled this from another lag thread that was probably going to get ignored. This is a good point that we should keep in mind. Most likely, everyone at Turbine reading the forums is on our side. The lag is miserable, and something was done at an administrative level to cause it that the devs and forum people have no control over. As we post over and over about the lag (and we should) our main objective is to give the people reading this the ammunition to take to the higher-ups to fix whatever the heck they did to screw it up in the first place.

    On that note. I distinctly remember a singular update when the lag started. Before that, no lag. After, lag. Does anyone remember what exactly it was? Because, honestly, being able to limit the time it started to such a degree makes it very difficult to understand why it couldn't have been fixed by now, other than negligence or interference from high-level administration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirac View Post
    On that note. I distinctly remember a singular update when the lag started. Before that, no lag. After, lag. Does anyone remember what exactly it was?
    For me, it was the hardware "upgrade" about a month and a half back (if I remember correctly), that was in fact an off-site shuffle of the DDO servers to an inferior and on-the-cheap third party server farm. Before that, the lag would pop up from time to time - particularly in raids - but was manageable. Since then, it's gotten progressively worse until we've gotten to the point where the game is nigh unplayable.

    But for me at least - it was when Turbine made the very bad choice to gimp their own game by downgrading our servers. And, depressingly, I don't see any way for them to back out of that choice now... which is why I speculate they are noticeably silent on the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirac View Post
    On that note. I distinctly remember a singular update when the lag started. Before that, no lag. After, lag. Does anyone remember what exactly it was? Because, honestly, being able to limit the time it started to such a degree makes it very difficult to understand why it couldn't have been fixed by now, other than negligence or interference from high-level administration.
    You are correct. It started after an update that they refused to share any details about.

    NO details. What does that tell you?

    I've said this many times before: They caused the lag, they know exactly what the problem is, and they apparently have no intention of fixing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnir View Post
    For me, it was the harware "upgrade" about a month and a half back (if I remember correctly), that was in fact an off-site shuffle of the DDO servers to an inferior and on-the-cheap third party server farm. Before that, the lag would pop up from time to time - particularly in raids - but was manageable. Since then, it's gotten progressively worse until we've gotten to the point where the game is nigh unplayable.

    But for me at least - it was when Turbine made the very bad choice to gimp their own game by downgrading our servers. And, depressingly, I don't see any way for them to back out of that choice now... which is why I speculate they are noticeably silent on the issue.
    yep the early 2009 timing is about right. used to be just shroud part 1 was laggy for me, after they decided it was a good idea to outsource the server housing to Cooters Puters'N'Stuff the lag is everywhere and unplayable as much as not.

    i really really hope that you are wrong about that mem, if they cannot undo this i have serious doubt about the health of our game. how will the lag be when mod9 comes out? will anyone still care about mod9?

    the silence thing is pure ****ing ego stupidness from the turbine higher-ups. I know that in my job, if i make a mistake i have to own up to it, and quick. I dont, i lose customers.

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    Ground zero was when they "upgraded" the servers....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnir View Post
    For me, it was the hardware "upgrade" about a month and a half back (if I remember correctly), that was in fact an off-site shuffle of the DDO servers to an inferior and on-the-cheap third party server farm. Before that, the lag would pop up from time to time - particularly in raids - but was manageable. Since then, it's gotten progressively worse until we've gotten to the point where the game is nigh unplayable.

    But for me at least - it was when Turbine made the very bad choice to gimp their own game by downgrading our servers. And, depressingly, I don't see any way for them to back out of that choice now... which is why I speculate they are noticeably silent on the issue.
    I recall (again, this is from memory) a dev post saying this upgrade 1 1/2 months ago of the servers, while not addressing the root of the lag, should help improve the issue. So, I remember the origin of the lag being before that. Either way, if we are really faced with no hope of a lag fix in the future, I am too, for the first time, worried about the game failing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Phenx View Post
    Ground zero was when they "upgraded" the servers....
    Was this the same upgrade Memnir is talking about, about 1 1/2 months ago, or was there one before that you are referring to?
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    I do believe the same; the server downgrade..oops...mean upgrade. I do love this game, more than most. But unless this is a ploy to kill DDO and create DDO2 or something, Please fix the lag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingfisher View Post
    i really really hope that you are wrong about that mem, if they cannot undo this i have serious doubt about the health of our game.
    I hope so too, bro. I can only hope that the Devs are indeed aware of the issue - but their hands are tied when it comes to publicly speaking about it. As I said, they've been noticeably silent on the issue... but that cane be taken two ways. One: They know about it, and cannot do anything about it. Two: they know about it and are working on a fix they cannot talk about. I'm praying for option two. Because if it's option one... this game is done for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnir View Post
    Two: they know about it and are working on a fix they cannot talk about. I'm praying for option two. Because if it's option one... this game is done for.
    They better start talking about about it - because silence on that issue really is causing people to cancel subs. Combine that with the lack of mod 9 info, even the addicts might be pushed to move on.

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    Agreed wholeheartedly. I'm still trying to be patient, but that will only carry me so far. The Devs need to make some sort of public statement - even if it's vague and cryptic as hell. Just some sort of public acknowledgment that we are not going to be left high and dry on this.

    I'm really angry about the whole mess... and just a little glimmer of hope would go a long way towards making things okay again. I'll keep playing through the lag, provided I know it's not going to be forever.

    I've got some faith left in the Devs. Man, I hope they don't squander it.
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    ok I know i get lag to every now and then but sometimes you have to think it could be on your side to. Like the other day I got massive lag did a tracert and come to find that it was embarq on my side. Well I called and they said they were ugrading our lines so now 3 days later i dont get hardly any lag but I know sometimes its on turbines side so before you blame turbine for everything why dont you do a tracert before you blame them. Also i have a 6meg dsl line so if you are running anything 2megs and under maybe might want to upgrade to atleast 3 megs to play ddo

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    You know, I have posted this exact reply on so many different threads based around the same issues, and I am tired of posting it, so I am going to go with the short Cliff Notes version this time.....

    LoTR----->Lag, lack of information, lack of content, lack of MOD's for DDO begins.

    3 letters and 1 number for you----->AC2 (if you don't know what this is, then telling you will do no good)

    MOD 9-----> Useless without first fixing lag, and questions see line 1.

    DDO is going to do 1 of 2 things, either they are going to fix the lag and keep releasing great MOD's, or DDO will die just like AC2. Either the Dev's can't or will not respond, the answer to this we will never know. They say that DDO isn't going anywhere but forward and MOD 9 is going to be great. I don't know what to believe, but I do believe what I see. I see LAG, hence nothing being done about it. I see no new content, which means MOD 9 isn't here yet. The DEV's could come on here and say that the issues are being addressed and the mobs would get worse wanting to know more. They are getting our money monthly, and we are getting a content lacking, lagging game with no communication from anyone accept each other. I see Turbine coming out smelling like a rose in all of this right now, that is until everyone leaves? Unless that is what Turbine truly wants. Conspiricy theories are everywhere, & the only ones that know the truth are not responding because either we don't want to hear it, or they feel we won't believe them. I want the lag gone. I want to see MOD 9 and future MOD's after that. We are in a position that we are at the mercy of the Dev's. I wish us all luck, and I wish the Dev's even more luck. Don't kill DDO, we love this game or we would already be gone....this should count for something.

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