Review of TWF relative DPS

[Cold_Stele]

I was wondering when someone would ask about monk...might as well ask about battle sorcs and flerics..

No Monks please - this is a DPS thread.

JK Garth

[stockwizard5]

Interesting data ... Some more creative builds do add substantially to the overall DPS but this creates a nice starting point.

[Borror0]

Post here so I don't forget to check this post later on when I have the time.

[Gryphton]

Love the thread. How about adding the Haste boost to all of them though. Seems like some would catch up more so with the haste once factoring bursting and blasting damage and the higher crits.

Might as well toss in the Monk just so the DPS builds can get a quick laugh

[Borror0]

For Frenzied Barbarian, it'd be interesting to have the Frenzy, Death Frenzy, Frenzy + Death Frenzy and no Frenzy numbers.

[gfunk]

See Original post for Summary Chart with Weapon effects
(numbers below for reference only)

Kensai Fighter
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
8 / 8 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. kensai
2 / 2 .. fighter enh
4 / 4 .. weapon spec, greater weapon spec
.......... .. 36 unbuffed str (18bse, 5 lvlup, 3 enh, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 8 str (power surge)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
20 / 10 .. 50 str (total)
49 / 39 .. total damage modifier
54.5 / 44.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
193.5 / 163.5 .. avg crit damage (+10 dmg to critsw/ kensai+bloodstone)
38.15 / 31.15 .. weighted reg damage (*14/20)
48.375 / 40.875 .. weighted crit damage (*5/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes
94.125 / 79.625 .. Average unhasted damage per swing

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.75 / 2.75 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*5/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.8 15.8 .. total weapon effects

109.925 95.425 .. base + sneak attack + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
549.625 / 477.125 .. total avg damage per round
1026.75 .. total main + off hand
1129.425 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity

Kensai Fighter (no str surge)
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
8 / 8 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. kensai
2 / 2 .. fighter enh
4 / 4 .. weapon spec, greater weapon spec
.......... .. 36 unbuffed str (18bse, 5 lvlup, 3 enh, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 8 str (power surge)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
16 / 8 .. 42 str (total)
45 / 37 .. total damage modifier
50.5 / 42.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
181.5 / 157.5 .. avg crit damage (+10 dmg to critsw/ kensai+bloodstone)
35.35 / 29.75 .. weighted reg damage (*14/20)
45.375 / 39.375 .. weighted crit damage (*5/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes
88.325 / 76.725 .. Average unhasted damage per swing

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.75 / 2.75 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*5/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.8 / 15.8 .. total weapon effects

104.125 92.525 .. base + sneak attack + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
520.625 / 462.625 .. total avg damage per round
983.25 .. total main + off hand
1081.575 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity

halfling Kensai Fighter
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon

7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
5 / 5 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. kensai
2 / 2 .. fighter enh

4 / 4 .. weapon spec, greater weapon spec
.......... .. 34 unbuffed str (16bse, 5 lvlup, 3 enh, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 8 str (power surge)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
19 / 9 .. 50 str (total)
45 / 35 .. total damage modifier
50.5 / 40.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
181.5 / 151.5 .. avg crit damage (+10 dmg to critsw/ kensai+bloodstone)
35.35 / 28.35 .. weighted reg damage (*14/20)
45.375 / 37.875 .. weighted crit damage (*5/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes
7.6 / 7.6 halfling guile
95.925 / 81.425 .. Average unhasted damage per swing

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.75 / 2.75 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*5/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.8 15.8 .. total weapon effects
111.725 97.225 .. base + sneak attack + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
558.625 / 486.125 .. total avg damage per round
1044.75 .. total main + off hand
1149.225 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity
1493.9925 *1.30 haste boost III
WF Strength Based Tempest Ranger (rapier)
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
8 / 8 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. rams might (possibly to be nerfed?)
14 / 14 .. favored enemy damage
.......... .. 33 unbuffed str (18bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rams)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
15 / 7 .. 41 str (total)
52 / 44 .. total damage modifier
57.5 / 49.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
127 / 111 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
37.375 / 32.175 .. weighted reg damage (*13/20)
38.1 / 33.3 .. weighted crit damage (*6/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
83.075 / 73.075 .. Average damage per swing

6.65 / 6.65 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
1.65 / 1.65 1d10 acid on crit tier II (11*6/20)
0.7 / 0.7 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
14.7 / 14.7 total weapon effects
97.775 87.775 .. base + sneak attack + weapon effects

6 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
586.65 / 438.875 .. total avg damage per round
1025.525 .. total main + off hand
1128.0775 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity

WF Strength Based Tempest Ranger (khopesh)
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
8 / 8 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. rams might (possibly to be nerfed?)
14 / 14 .. favored enemy damage
.......... .. 33 unbuffed str (18bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rams)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
15 / 7 .. 41 str (total)
52 / 44 .. total damage modifier
57.5 / 49.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
190.5 / 166.5 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
43.125 / 37.125 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20)
38.1 / 33.3 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
88.825 / 78.025 .. Average damage per swing

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
104.075 93.275 .. base + sneak attack + weapon effects

6 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
624.45 / 466.375 .. total avg damage per round
1090.825 .. total main + off hand
1199.9075 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity

WF Strength Based Tempest Ranger, vs un favored (khopesh)
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
8 / 8 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. rams might (possibly to be nerfed?)
0 / 0 .. favored enemy damage
.......... .. 33 unbuffed str (18bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rams)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
15 / 7 .. 41 str (total)
38 / 30 .. total damage modifier
43.5 / 35.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
148.5 / 124.5 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
32.625 / 26.625 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20)
29.7 / 24.9 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
69.925 / 59.125 .. Average unhasted damage per swing

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
85.175 74.375 .. base + sneak attack + weapon effects

6 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
511.05 / 371.875 .. total avg damage per round
882.925 .. total main + off hand
971.2175 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity

WF Frezy I WF Barbarian
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
11 / 11 .. power attack
.......... .. 33 unbuffed str (18bse, 5 lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 8 str (mighty rage)
........... .. 4 str (power rage iv)
........... .. 2 str (capstone)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
21 / 10 .. 53 str (total)
45 / 34 .. total damage modifier
50.5 / 39.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
169.5 / 136.5 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
282.5 / 227.5 .. avg (19 or 20) crit damage (GS Khopesh)
37.875 / 29.625 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20)
16.95 / 13.65 .. weighted crit damage (*2/20)
28.25 / 22.75 .. weighted (19 or 20) crit damage (*2/20)
83.075 / 66.025 .. Average unhasted damage per swing
6.65 / 6.65 .. Average vicious damage (2d6)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
97.325 / 80.275 .. subtotal

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
112.575 95.525 .. base + sneak attack + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
562.875 / 477.625 .. total avg damage per round
1040.5 .. total main + off hand
WF Death Frezy WF Barbarian
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
11 / 11 .. power attack
.......... .. 33 unbuffed str (18bse, 5 lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 8 str (mighty rage)
........... .. 4 str (power rage iv)
........... .. 2 str (capstone)
........... .. 4 str (death frenzy)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
23 / 11 .. 57 str (total)
47 / 35 .. total damage modifier
52.5 / 40.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
175.5 / 139.5 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
292.5 / 232.5 .. avg (19 or 20) crit damage (GS Khopesh)
39.375 / 30.375 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20)
17.55 / 13.95 .. weighted crit damage (*2/20)
29.25 / 23.25 .. weighted (19 or 20) crit damage (*2/20)
86.175 / 67.575 .. Average unhasted damage per swing
13.3 / 13.3 .. Average greater vicious damage (4d6)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
107.075 / 88.475 .. subtotal

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
122.325 103.725 .. base + sneak attack + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
611.625 / 518.625 .. total avg damage per round
1130.25 .. total main + off hand

wf Double Frezied Barbarian
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
11 / 11 .. power attack
.......... .. 33 unbuffed str (18bse, 5 lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 8 str (mighty rage)
........... .. 4 str (power rage iv)
........... .. 2 str (capstone)
2 str (frenzy)
........... .. 4 str (death frenzy)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
24 / 12 .. 59 str (total)
48 / 36 .. total damage modifier
53.5 / 41.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
178.5 / 142.5 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
297.5 / 237.5 .. avg (19 or 20) crit damage (GS Khopesh)
40.125 / 31.125 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20)
17.85 / 14.25 .. weighted crit damage (*2/20)
29.75 / 23.75 .. weighted (19 or 20) crit damage (*2/20)
87.725 / 69.125 .. Average unhasted damage per swing
19.95 / 19.95 .. Average vicious + greater damage (6d6)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
115.275 / 96.675 .. subtotal

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
130.525 111.925 .. base + sneak attack + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
652.625 / 559.625 .. total avg damage per round
1212.25 .. total main + off hand

WF Strength Based Assassin
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
8 / 8 .. power attack

.......... .. 33 unbuffed str (18bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
14 / 7 .. 39 str (total)
35 / 28 .. total damage modifier
40.5 / 33.5 .. avg crit damage (GS Khopesh)
157.5 / 136.5 .. avg crit damage (+12 dmg to crits w/ assassin & bloodstone)
30.375 / 25.125 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20)
31.5 / 27.3 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
61.875 / 52.425 .. Average unhasted damage per swing
33.25 / 33.25 .. Average backstabbing damage (10d6)
14.25 / 14.25 .. sneak attack training V?
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
116.975 / 107.525 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
132.225 122.775 .. base + sneak attack + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
661.125 / 613.875 .. total avg damage per round
1275 .. total main + off hand
1657.5 *1.3 haste boost IV
WF Strength Based Assassin without sneak attack
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
8 / 8 .. power attack
.......... .. 33 unbuffed str (18bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
14 / 7 .. 39 str (total)
35 / 28 .. total damage modifier
40.5 / 33.5 .. avg crit damage (GS Khopesh)
139.5 / 118.5 .. avg crit damage (+12 dmg to crits w/ assassin & bloodstone)
30.375 / 25.125 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20)
27.9 / 23.7 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
58.275 / 48.825 .. Average unhasted damage per swing
0 / 0 .. Average backstabbing damage (10d6)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
65.875 / 56.425 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
81.125 71.675 .. base + sneak attack + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
405.625 / 358.375 .. total avg damage per round
764 .. total main + off hand

WF Monster vs favored
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
8 / 8 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. kensai
1 / 1 .. fighter enh
4 / 4 .. weapon spec, greater weapon spec
2 2 .. rams might
6 6 .. favored enemy
.......... .. 36 unbuffed str (18bse, 5 lvlup, 3 enh, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rams might
........... .. 8 str (power surge)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
21 / 10 .. 52 str (total)
57 / 46 .. total damage modifier
62.5 / 51.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
217.5 / 184.5 .. avg crit damage (+10 dmg to critsw/ kensai+bloodstone)
46.875 / 38.625 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20)
43.5 / 36.9 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
97.975 / 83.125 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
113.225 98.375 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
566.125 / 491.875 .. total avg damage per round
1058 .. total main + off hand
1163.8 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity

WF Monster vs un-favored
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
8 / 8 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. kensai
1 / 1 .. fighter enh
4 / 4 .. weapon spec, greater weapon spec
2 2 .. rams might
0 0 .. favored enemy
.......... .. 36 unbuffed str (18bse, 5 lvlup, 3 enh, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rams might
........... .. 8 str (power surge)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
21 / 10 .. 52 str (total)
51 / 40 .. total damage modifier
56.5 / 45.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
199.5 / 166.5 .. avg crit damage (+10 dmg to critsw/ kensai+bloodstone)
42.375 / 34.125 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20)
39.9 / 33.3 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
89.875 / 75.025 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
105.125 90.275 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
525.625 / 451.375 .. total avg damage per round
977 .. total main + off hand
1074.7 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity

DWARF 14/6 barb/ranger vs favored wielding dwarven axes
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
8 / 8 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. dwarf axe enhancements
4 / 4 .. weapon spec, greater weapon spec
2 2 .. rams might
6 6 .. favored enemy
.......... .. 33 unbuffed str (18bse, 5 lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 6 str (barb rage)
........... .. 2 str (rams might
........... .. 4 str (power rage IV)
........... .. 2 str (rage spell)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
20 / 10 .. 51 str (total)

55 / 45 .. total damage modifier
64 / 54 .. avg regular damage (GS dwarven axe)
210 / 180 .. avg crit damage (+6 damage with bloodstone)
48 / 40.5 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20 crit rage II)
42 / 36 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20, crit rage II)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
97.6 / 84.1 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
112.85 99.35 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
564.25 / 496.75 .. total avg damage per round
1061 .. total main + off hand
1167.1 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity

14/6 dwarf barb/ranger vs non-favored wielding dwarven axes
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
8 / 8 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. dwarf axe enhancements
4 / 4 .. weapon spec, greater weapon spec
2 2 .. rams might
0 0 .. favored enemy
.......... .. 33 unbuffed str (18bse, 5 lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 6 str (barb rage)
........... .. 2 str (rams might
........... .. 4 str (power rage IV)
........... .. 2 str (rage spell)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
20 / 10 .. 51 str (total)
49 / 39 .. total damage modifier
58 / 48 .. avg regular damage (GS dwarven axe)
192 / 162 .. avg crit damage (+6 damage with bloodstone)
43.5 / 36 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20 crit rage II)
38.4 / 32.4 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20, crit rage II)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
89.5 / 76 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
104.75 91.25 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
523.75 / 456.25 .. total avg damage per round
980 .. total main + off hand
1078 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity

Critical Rage II WF Barbarian w/ heavy picks
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
11 / 11 .. power attack
.......... .. 33 unbuffed str (18bse, 5 lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 8 str (mighty rage)
........... .. 4 str (power rage iv)
........... .. 2 str (capstone)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
21 / 10 .. 53 str (total)
45 / 34 .. total damage modifier

50.5 / 39.5 .. avg regular damage (GS heavy picks)
226 / 182 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
37.875 / 29.625 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20)
45.2 / 36.4 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
90.675 / 73.625 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
3.3 / 3.3 .. 3d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
16.35 / 16.35 .. total weapon effects
107.025 89.975 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
535.125 / 449.875 .. total avg damage per round
985 .. total main + off hand

Critical Rage II WF Barbarian w/ khopeshes
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
11 / 11 .. power attack
.......... .. 33 unbuffed str (18bse, 5 lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 8 str (mighty rage)
........... .. 4 str (power rage iv)
........... .. 2 str (capstone)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
21 / 10 .. 53 str (total)
45 / 34 .. total damage modifier

49.5 / 38.5 .. avg regular damage (GS heavy picks)
166.5 / 133.5 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
32.175 / 25.025 .. weighted reg damage (*13/20)
49.95 / 40.05 .. weighted crit damage (*6/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
89.725 / 72.675 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
3.3 / 3.3 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*6/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
16.35 16.35 .. total weapon effects
106.075 89.025 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
530.375 / 445.125 .. total avg damage per round
975.5 .. total main + off hand

Colossus (12 fighter / 8 barbarian)
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
10 / 10 .. power attack (wf power attack III, barb power attack II)
2 / 2 .. kensai
1 / 1 .. fighter enh
4 / 4 .. weapon spec, greater weapon spec
.......... .. 36 unbuffed str (18bse, 5 lvlup, 3 enh, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 8 str (power surge)
........... .. 6 str rage
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
........... .. 2 str (frenzy)
24 / 12 .. 58 str (total)
54 / 42 .. total damage modifier

59.5 / 47.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
208.5 / 172.5 .. avg crit damage (+10 dmg to critsw/ kensai+bloodstone)
44.625 / 35.625 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20)
41.7 / 34.5 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
86.325 / 70.125 .. Average unhasted damage per swing
6.65 / 6.65 .. Average vicious damage (2d6)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
100.575 / 84.375 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
115.825 99.625 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
579.125 / 498.125 .. total avg damage per round
1077.25 .. total main + off hand

warforged monk w/ duel min II kamas
main / offhand
5.0 / 5.0 .. weapon
7.0 / 7.0 .. inspire courage
1.0 / 1.0 .. prayer
8.0 / 8.0 .. power attack
1.0 / 1.0 .. ki strike
/ .. favored enemy damage
.......... .. 33 unbuffed str (18bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
14.0 / 7.0 .. 39 str (total)
36.0 / 29.0 .. total damage modifier
40.5 / 33.5 .. avg regular damage
93.0 / 79.0 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
34.4 / 28.5 .. weighted reg damage (*17/20)
9.3 / 7.9 .. weighted crit damage (*2/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
51.325 / 43.975 .. sub total


6.7 / 6.7 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.3 / 3.3 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
0.6 / 0.6 .. 1d10 acid on crit tier II (5.5*2/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.4 / 2.4 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
13.6 13.6 .. total weapon/ monk path effects
64.9 57.6 .. base + weapon effects

5.0 / 5.0 .. # of attacks per round
324.6 / 287.9 .. total avg damage per round
6.7 / 6.7 assuming 2 attacks attampted with master of thunder (2d6*19/20)
625.8 .. total main + off hand
719.7 .. 15% insight bonus to speed (greater wind stance)

Dex Based elven Tempest Ranger with rapiers, vs favored
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
2 2 elf rapier enhancements
1 / 1 .. prayer
5 / 5 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. rams might (possibly to be nerfed?)
14 / 14 .. favored enemy damage
.......... .. 24 unbuffed str (14bse, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rams)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
11 / 5 .. 32 str (total)
47 / 41 .. total damage modifier

51.5 / 45.5 .. avg regular damage (GS rapier)
115 / 103 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
33.475 / 29.575 .. weighted reg damage (*13/20)
34.5 / 30.9 .. weighted crit damage (*6/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
75.575 / 68.075 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
1.65 / 1.65 1d10 acid on crit tier II (11*6/20)
0.7 / 0.7 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
14.7 14.7 .. total weapon effects
90.275 82.775 .. base + weapon effects

6 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
541.65 / 413.875 .. total avg damage per round
955.525 .. total main + off hand
1051.0775 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity

Dex Based elven Tempest Ranger with rapiers, vs non favored
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
2 2 elf rapier enhancements
1 / 1 .. prayer
5 / 5 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. rams might (possibly to be nerfed?)
0 / 0 .. favored enemy damage
.......... .. 24 unbuffed str (14bse, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rams)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
11 / 5 .. 32 str (total)
33 / 27 .. total damage modifier

37.5 / 31.5 .. avg regular damage (GS rapier)
87 / 75 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
24.375 / 20.475 .. weighted reg damage (*13/20)
26.1 / 22.5 .. weighted crit damage (*6/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
58.075 / 50.575 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
1.65 / 1.65 1d10 acid on crit tier II (11*6/20)
0.7 / 0.7 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
14.7 14.7 .. total weapon effects
72.775 65.275 .. base + weapon effects

6 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
436.65 / 326.375 .. total avg damage per round
763.025 .. total main + off hand
839.3275 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity
The exploiter vs favored including sneak attack/backstab(khopesh)
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer

5 / 5 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. rams might (possibly to be nerfed?)
12 / 12 .. favored enemy damage
.......... .. 30 unbuffed str (15bse, 5 levels 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rams)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
14 / 7 .. 38 str (total)
46 / 39 .. total damage modifier
51.5 / 44.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
172.5 / 151.5 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
38.625 / 33.375 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20)
34.5 / 30.3 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. Average backstabbing damage (1d6) *19/20
2.85 2.85 .. sneak attack training I
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
86.9 / 77.45 .. Average unhasted damage per swing

6.65 / 6.65 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
102.15 92.7 .. base + weapon effects

6 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
612.9 / 463.5 .. total avg damage per round
1076.4 .. total main + off hand
1184.04 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity

The exploiter vs. non-favored, no sneak attack (khopesh)
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
5 / 5 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. rams might (possibly to be nerfed?)
0 / 0 .. favored enemy damage
.......... .. 30 unbuffed str (15bse, 5 levels 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rams)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
14 / 7 .. 38 str (total)
34 / 27 .. total damage modifier
39.5 / 32.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
136.5 / 115.5 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
29.625 / 24.375 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20)
27.3 / 23.1 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
0 / 0 .. Average backstabbing damage (1d6) *19/20
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
64.525 / 55.075 .. Average unhasted damage per swing

6.65 / 6.65 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
79.775 70.325 .. base + weapon effects

6 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
478.65 / 351.625 .. total avg damage per round
830.275 .. total main + off hand
913.3025 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity

The exploiter vs favored including sneak attack/backstab(khopesh) w/haste boost I
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer

5 / 5 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. rams might (possibly to be nerfed?)
12 / 12 .. favored enemy damage
.......... .. 30 unbuffed str (15bse, 5 levels 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rams)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
14 / 7 .. 38 str (total)
46 / 39 .. total damage modifier
51.5 / 44.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
172.5 / 151.5 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
38.625 / 33.375 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20)
34.5 / 30.3 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. Average backstabbing damage (1d6) *19/20
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
2.85 2.85 .. sneak attack training I
86.9 / 77.45 .. Average unhasted damage per swing

6.65 / 6.65 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
102.15 92.7 .. base + weapon effects

6 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
612.9 / 463.5 .. total avg damage per round
1076.4 .. total main + off hand
1184.04 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity
1361.646 *1.15 haste boost I

Halfling assassin
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
5 / 5 .. power attack
.......... .. 31 unbuffed str (16bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
13 / 6 .. 37 str (total)
31 / 24 .. total damage modifier
36.5 / 29.5 .. avg crit damage (GS Khopesh)
139.5 / 118.5 .. avg crit damage (+10 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
27.375 / 22.125 .. weighted reg damage (*15/20)
27.9 / 23.7 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
55.275 / 45.825 .. Average unhasted damage per swing
33.25 / 33.25 .. Average backstabbing damage (10d6)
14.25 / 14.25 .. sneak attack training V?
7.6 7.6 halfling guild IV
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
117.975 / 108.525 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
133.225 123.775 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
666.125 / 618.875 .. total avg damage per round
1285 .. total main + off hand
1670.5 *1.3 haste boost IV

Dwarf Strength based Rogue 13/Ranger 6/Barbarian 1 (dwarven axes)
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
2 / 2 .. dwarven axe enhancements
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
6 / 6 .. power attack
2 / 2 rams might
6 / 6 favored enemy
.......... .. 33 unbuffed str (18bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
.. 4 str (barb rage)
2 str (rams)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
17 / 8 .. 45 str (total)
46 / 37 .. total damage modifier

57 / 48 .. avg normal damage (GS dwarwven axe)
189 / 162 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
48.45 / 40.8 .. weighted reg damage (*17/20)
18.9 / 16.2 .. weighted crit damage (*2/20)

67.35 / 57 .. Average unhasted damage per swing
23.275 / 23.275 .. Average backstabbing damage (7d6)
11.4 / 11.4 .. sneak attack training IV (12*19/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
109.625 / 99.275 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
1.1 / 1.1 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*2/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
14.15 14.15 .. total weapon effects
123.775 113.425 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
618.875 / 567.125 .. total avg damage per round
1186 .. total main + off hand
1304.6 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity
1695.98 *1.3 haste boost IV
Dwarf Strength based Rogue 13/Ranger 6/Barbarian 1 (dwarven axes) without sneak attack vs non favored
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
2 / 2 .. dwarven axe enhancements
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
6 / 6 .. power attack
2 / 2 rams might
0 / 0 favored enemy
.......... .. 33 unbuffed str (18bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
.. 4 str (barb rage)
2 str (rams)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
17 / 8 .. 45 str (total)
40 / 31 .. total damage modifier

51 / 42 .. avg normal damage (GS dwarwven axe)
171 / 144 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
43.35 / 35.7 .. weighted reg damage (*17/20)
17.1 / 14.4 .. weighted crit damage (*2/20)
60.45 / 50.1 .. Average unhasted damage per swing
0 / 0 .. Average backstabbing damage (7d6)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
68.05 / 57.7 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
1.1 / 1.1 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*2/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
14.15 14.15 .. total weapon effects
82.2 71.85 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
411 / 359.25 .. total avg damage per round
770.25 .. total main + off hand
847.275 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity

halfling Strength based Rogue 13/Ranger 6/Barbarian 1 (khopesh)
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon

7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
6 / 6 .. power attack

2 / 2 rams might
6 / 6 favored enemy
.......... .. 31 unbuffed str (16 bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
.......... .. 2 str (rams)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 4 str (barb rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
16 / 8 .. 43 str (total)
43 / 35 .. total damage modifier

48.5 / 40.5 .. avg normal damage (GS khopesh)
163.5 / 139.5 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
36.375 / 30.375 .. weighted reg damage (*17/20)
32.7 / 27.9 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
69.075 / 58.275 .. Average unhasted damage per swing
23.275 / 23.275 .. Average backstabbing damage (7d6)
11.4 / 11.4 .. sneak attack training IV
7.6 / 7.6 .. halfling guile
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
118.95 / 108.15 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
134.2 123.4 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
671 / 617 .. total avg damage per round
1288 .. total main + off hand
1416.8 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity
1841.84 *1.3 haste boost IV

halfling Rogue (assassin) 13/Ranger(tempest) 6/Barbarian 1
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
6 / 6 .. power attack
2 / 2 rams might
6 / 6 favored enemy
.......... .. 31 unbuffed str (16 bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
.......... .. 2 str (rams)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 4 str (barb rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
16 / 8 .. 43 str (total)
43 / 35 .. total damage modifier

48.5 / 40.5 .. avg normal damage (GS khopesh)
175.5 / 151.5 .. avg crit damage (+10 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
36.375 / 30.375 .. weighted reg damage (*17/20)
35.1 / 30.3 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
71.475 / 60.675 .. Average unhasted damage per swing
23.275 / 23.275 .. Average backstabbing damage (7d6)
11.4 / 11.4 .. sneak attack training IV
7.6 / 7.6 .. halfling guile
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
121.35 / 110.55 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
136.6 125.8 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
683 / 629 .. total avg damage per round
1312 .. total main + off hand
1443.2 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity
1876.16 *1.3 haste boost IV

halfling Strength based Rogue 13/Ranger 6/Barbarian 1 (khopesh) vs non favored without sneak attack
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
6 / 6 .. power attack
2 / 2 rams might
0 / 0 favored enemy
.......... .. 31 unbuffed str (16 bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
.......... .. 2 str (rams)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 4 str (barb rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
16 / 8 .. 43 str (total)
37 / 29 .. total damage modifier

42.5 / 34.5 .. avg normal damage (GS khopesh)
145.5 / 121.5 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
31.875 / 25.875 .. weighted reg damage (*17/20)
29.1 / 24.3 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
60.975 / 50.175 .. Average unhasted damage per swing
0 / 0 .. Average backstabbing damage (7d6)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
68.575 / 57.775 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
83.825 73.025 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
419.125 / 365.125 .. total avg damage per round
784.25 .. total main + off hand
862.675 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity
1121.4775 *1.3 haste boost IV

halfling kensai fighter
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon

7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
5 / 5 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. Kensai
2 / 2 Fighter enhancements
4 / 4 weapon spec, greater weapon spec
.......... .. 30 unbuffed str (15 bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
.......... .. 8 str (power surge)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
17 / 8 .. 44 str (total)
43 / 34 .. total damage modifier

48.5 / 39.5 .. avg normal damage (GS khopesh)
175.5 / 148.5 .. avg crit damage (+10 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
33.95 / 27.65 .. weighted reg damage (*14/20)
43.875 / 37.125 .. weighted crit damage (*5/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. halfling guile
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
93.025 / 79.975 .. sub total

93.025 / 79.975 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.25 15.25 .. total weapon effects
108.275 95.225 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
541.375 / 476.125 .. total avg damage per round
1017.5 .. total main + off hand
1119.25 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity
1455.025 *1.3 haste boost IV


TWF dwarven stalwart defender
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
2 / 2 .. dwarven axe enhancements
1 / 1 .. prayer
5 / 5 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. Fighter enhancements
4 / 4 .. weapon spec, greater weapon spec
.......... .. 32 unbuffed str (16 bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 3 tome)
.......... .. 4 str (defensive stance)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
16 / 8 .. 42 str (total)
42 / 34 .. total damage modifier

53 / 45 .. avg normal damage (Gs dwarven axes)
177 / 153 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
45.05 / 38.25 .. weighted reg damage (*17/20)
17.7 / 15.3 .. weighted crit damage (*2/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
70.35 / 61.15 .. sub total

70.35 / 61.15 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
1.1 / 1.1 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*2/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
14.15 / 14.15 .. total Min II weapon effects
84.5 / 75.3 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
422.5 / 376.5 .. total avg damage per round
799 .. total main + off hand
878.9 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity
1054.68 .. *1.2 haste boost II

Human Kensai Fighter with damage boost +5
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
5 / 5 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. kensai
5 / 5 damage boost +5
2 / 2 .. fighter enh
4 / 4 .. weapon spec, greater weapon spec
.......... .. 36 unbuffed str (18bse, 5 lvlup, 4 enh, 6 item, 3 tome)
........... .. 8 str (power surge)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
16 / 8 .. 50 str (total)
47 / 39 .. total damage modifier
52.5 / 44.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
187.5 / 163.5 .. avg crit damage (+10 dmg to critsw/ kensai+bloodstone)
36.75 / 31.15 .. weighted reg damage (*14/20)
46.875 / 40.875 .. weighted crit damage (*5/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
91.225 / 79.625 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.75 / 2.75 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*5/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.8 15.8 .. total weapon effects
107.025 95.425 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
535.125 / 477.125 .. total avg damage per round
1012.25 .. total main + off hand
1113.475 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity

human Kensai Fighter with haste boost +30%
main / offhand
5 / 5 .. weapon
7 / 7 .. inspire courage
1 / 1 .. prayer
5 / 5 .. power attack
2 / 2 .. kensai
2 / 2 .. fighter enh
4 / 4 .. weapon spec, greater weapon spec
.......... .. 36 unbuffed str (18bse, 5 lvlup, 4 enh, 6 item, 3 tome)
........... .. 8 str (power surge)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
16 / 8 .. 50 str (total)
42 / 34 .. total damage modifier
47.5 / 39.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
172.5 / 148.5 .. avg crit damage (+10 dmg to critsw/ kensai+bloodstone)
33.25 / 27.65 .. weighted reg damage (*14/20)
43.125 / 37.125 .. weighted crit damage (*5/20)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
83.975 / 72.375 .. sub total

6.65 / 6.65 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.325 / 3.325 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.75 / 2.75 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*5/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.375 / 2.375 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.8 15.8 .. total weapon effects
99.775 88.175 .. base + weapon effects

5 / 5 .. # of attacks per round
498.875 / 440.875 .. total avg damage per round
939.75 .. total main + off hand
1033.725 .. * 1.10 melee alacrity
1343.8425 *1.30 haste boost

WF Knight of the Chalice vs evil outsiders
main / offhand
5.0 / 5.0 .. weapon
7.0 / 7.0 .. inspire courage
1.0 / 1.0 .. prayer
8.0 / 8.0 .. power attack
8.0 / 8.0 .. paladin divine might IV
3.0 / 3.0 .. divine favor (spell)
.......... .. 31 unbuffed str (16 bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)



13.0 / 6.0 .. 37 str (total)
45.0 / 38.0 .. total damage modifier
50.5 / 43.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
169.5 / 148.5 .. avg crit damage (+6dmg to crits w/bloodstone)
37.9 / 32.6 .. weighted reg damage (*14/20)
33.9 / 29.7 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
71.8 / 62.3 .. Average unhasted damage per swing
23.3 / 23.3 .. Average evil outsider damage (7d6)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
102.7 / 93.2 .. sub total

6.7 / 6.7 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.3 / 3.3 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.4 / 2.4 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.3 15.3 .. total weapon effects
117.9 108.5 .. base + sneak attack + weapon effects

5.0 / 5.0 .. # of attacks per round
589.5 / 542.3 .. total avg damage per round
396.1 1131.8 .. total main + off hand (vs evil outsiders, not including smites)
430.1 1244.9 .. zeal (10%)
Smiting
Smiting
107.5 / 100.5 .. avg reg smite damage (GS Khopesh)
567.5 / 532.5 .. avg crit smite damage (+6dmg to crits w/bloodstone)
80.6 / 75.4 .. weighted reg smite damage (*13/20)
113.5 / 106.5 .. weighted crit smite damage (*6/20)
194.1 181.9 .. avg smite/hand
-71.8 -62.3 minus non-smiting damage
241.9 .. average extra smite damage
1373.7 .. incl above + 1 smite/round
522.0 1486.8 .. DPS w/zeal+haste

Tempest I Knight of the Chalice II vs favored
main / offhand
5.0 / 5.0 .. weapon
7.0 / 7.0 .. inspire courage
1.0 / 1.0 .. prayer
8.0 / 8.0 .. power attack
4.0 / 4.0 .. paladin divine might II
3.0 / 3.0 .. divine favor (spell)
2.0 / 2.0 rams might
6.0 / 6.0 .. favored enemies
.......... .. 31 unbuffed str (16 bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
.. 2 str (rams might)
14.0 / 7.0 .. 39 str (total)
50.0 / 43.0 .. total damage modifier
55.5 / 48.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
184.5 / 163.5 .. avg crit damage (+6dmg to crits w/bloodstone)
41.6 / 36.4 .. weighted reg damage (*14/20)
36.9 / 32.7 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
78.5 / 69.1 .. Average unhasted damage per swing
6.7 / 6.7 .. Average evil outsider damage (2d6)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
92.8 / 83.3 .. sub total

6.7 / 6.7 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.3 / 3.3 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.4 / 2.4 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.3 15.3 .. total weapon effects
108.0 98.6 .. base + weapon effects

5.0 / 5.0 .. # of attacks per round
540.1 / 492.9 .. total avg damage per round
1033.0 .. total main + off hand (vs evil outsiders, not including smites)
392.5 1136.3 .. zeal (10%)
421.2 1249.9 tempest (10%) if stacking multiplicitavely (i.e. 1.10*1.10 = 1.21)
Smiting
94.5 / 87.5 .. avg reg smite damage (GS Khopesh)
502.5 / 467.5 .. avg crit smite damage (+6dmg to crits w/bloodstone)
70.9 / 65.6 .. weighted reg smite damage (*13/20)
100.5 / 93.5 .. weighted crit smite damage (*6/20)
171.4 159.1 .. avg smite/hand
-78.5 -69.1 minus non-smiting damage
182.9 .. average extra smite damage
1215.9 .. incl above + 1 smite/round
495.8 1432.8 .. DPS w/tempest+zeal+haste

Knight of the Chalice not vs. evil outsiders
main / offhand
5.0 / 5.0 .. weapon
7.0 / 7.0 .. inspire courage
0.0 / 0.0 .. prayer
8.0 / 8.0 .. power attack
8.0 / 8.0 .. paladin divine might IV
3.0 / 3.0 .. divine favor (spell)


.......... .. 31 unbuffed str (16bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)

13.0 / 6.0 .. 37 str (total)
44.0 / 37.0 .. total damage modifier
49.5 / 42.5 .. avg regular damage (GS Khopesh)
166.5 / 145.5 .. avg crit damage (+6dmg to crits w/bloodstone)
37.1 / 31.9 .. weighted reg damage (*14/20)
33.3 / 29.1 .. weighted crit damage (*4/20)
81.4 / 71.9 .. Average unhasted damage per swing
3.3 / 3.3 weapons of good (vs evil portion)
7.6 / 7.6 .. tharnes (8*19/20)
81.4 / 71.9 .. sub total

6.7 / 6.7 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.3 / 3.3 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
2.2 / 2.2 .. 2d10 acid on crit tier II (11*4/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.4 / 2.4 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
15.3 15.3 .. total weapon effects
96.6 87.2 .. base + weapon effects

5.0 / 5.0 .. # of attacks per round
483.0 / 435.8 .. total avg damage per round
321.3 918.8 .. total main + off hand (vs evil outsiders, not including smites)
349.1 1010.6 .. zeal (10%)

[Demoyn]

I really appreciate this thread, Gfunk. It does seem that my builds (whether original or not) are a lot more potent than posters would try and have me believe.


Edit:

744.4.....Kensai fighter*
*current max "sustainable" and non-situational dps (meaning dps not inherently incurred)

Gee, I could have sworn that I posted a few days ago saying that the fighter would top the DPS charts and got laughed at by the "experts". I guess we just have a different understanding of what DPS is. Sort of like $3x, where I go for longevity, but they're happy with a 20 second burst or only counting the satisfaction opinion of the fat, ugly chicks (speed boost and favored enemy).

[Demoyn]

** NEW chart, with weapon effects and buffs (see post on page 3 for details)

1226.5 .. 14/6 dwarf barb(crit rage II)/ranger w/ dwarven axes vs favored
1223.2 .. Monster vs. favored

These are backwards as the barb/ranger deals 3 more damage than the Monster. Hmm, go figure.

[gfunk]

Love the thread. How about adding the Haste boost to all of them though. Seems like some would catch up more so with the haste once factoring bursting and blasting damage and the higher crits.

I only added the haste boost to the builds/classes that had that enhancement available to them.

These are backwards as the barb/ranger deals 3 more damage than the Monster. Hmm, go figure.

fixed

[gfunk]

Alright all you monk fanatics, I'm going to need some help with this one (I'm not going to put it in the table till I have had some feedback). Also, I would like to do an unarmed version, however due to the # unarmed attacks per round, it isnt really directly comparable to two weapon fighting. Any thoughts regarding that would be helpful.

warforged monk w/ duel min II kamas
main / offhand
5.0 / 5.0 .. weapon
8.0 / 8.0 .. tharnes
7.0 / 7.0 .. inspire courage
1.0 / 1.0 .. prayer
8.0 / 8.0 .. power attack
1.0 / 1.0 .. ki strike
/ .. favored enemy damage
.......... .. 33 unbuffed str (18bse, 5lvlup, 6 item, 4 tome)
........... .. 2 str (rage)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 1)
........... .. 2 str (madstone 2)
14.0 / 7.0 .. 39 str (total)
44.0 / 37.0 .. total damage modifier
48.5 / 41.5 .. avg regular damage
109.0 / 95.0 .. avg crit damage (+6 dmg to crits w/ bloodstone)
41.2 / 35.3 .. weighted reg damage (*17/20)
10.9 / 9.5 .. weighted crit damage (*2/20)
52.1 / 44.8 .. Average damage per swing


6.7 / 6.7 .. 2d6 holy tier I (7*19/20)
3.3 / 3.3 .. 1d6 acid tier II (3.5*19/20)
0.6 / 0.6 .. 1d10 acid on crit tier II (5.5*2/20)
0.7 / 0.7 .. 4d6 acid on 20 tier III(14*1/20)
2.4 / 2.4 .. 1d4 slicing duel shard (2.5*19/20)
13.6 13.6 .. total weapon/ monk path effects
65.7 58.4 .. base + weapon effects

5.0 / 5.0 .. # of attacks per round
328.6 / 291.9 .. total avg damage per round
6.7 / 6.7 assuming 2 attacks attampted with master of thunder (2d6*19/20)
633.8 .. total main + off hand
728.9 .. 15% insight bonus to speed (greater wind stance)

[cforce]

gfunk, it will probably come as little surprise to you that this is my new favorite thread -- thanks for taking the time to do this. Should this thread maybe have a home in the guides forum, so it doesn't get pruned 3-6 months from now? It's a great resource.

(And, I'm still working on deconstructing the attack speed stuff so you can eventually fold that in, so stay tuned. Right now I'm stalled because I realized I need to level a Tempest build to really get good data.)

[gfunk]

gfunk, it will probably come as little surprise to you that this is my new favorite thread -- thanks for taking the time to do this. Should this thread maybe have a home in the guides forum, so it doesn't get pruned 3-6 months from now? It's a great resource.

(And, I'm still working on deconstructing the attack speed stuff so you can eventually fold that in, so stay tuned. Right now I'm stalled because I realized I need to level a Tempest build to really get good data.)

Cool, thx.. it will be great to get your final numbers so that I can incorporate them.. Attack speeds probably remain the single biggest unknown when trying to compare the various dps classes with each other. I'm glad your working on it. If you get the chance to look into it, I would love to get some data on monk attack speeds as well, both with kamas and with unarmed attacks.

And yeah, this thread would probably do better in the guides forum, I just didn't want to post it there initially, as I wanted to get some more feedback before calling it a "guide".

[gfunk]

I would also like to mention that I am looking for other accurate data in order to determine total effectiveness of the builds. For example, I think that most people would consider tanking in shroud part 4 to be a measuring bar with which they guage their melee's effectiveness.

If I had the data, I would take each builds average damage output, and damage taken (combination of armor class, and reflex saves +/- evasion or improved evasion) to come up with a total effectiveness rating for each build (+/- gear). In order to do this I would need substantiated data for:

Harry's bonus to hit, and amount of damage, plus average # melee attacks / interval
Harry's total hit points
Minimum saving throw for meteor swarns / dbf's (plus average number of each casted)
Average damage numbers for meteor swarms / dbf's

If anyone happens across this data, I would appreciate it if they let me know.

[gfunk]

[Crarites]

Something you may want to add to your list.


Human pally14/ranger6 chalice tempest zeal build.

[Borror0]

FB with only Death Frenzy or Frenzy would be cool too. Both are more manageable HP loss than double frenzy.

[gfunk]

Something you may want to add to your list.


Human pally14/ranger6 tempest zeal build.

That is a good one, I haven't added it yet as I was looking for an actual build for one that someone posted. I think it is more interesting then just posting a generic build that I have created, though if I don't dig one up on the forums I might have to just make my own.

FB with only Death Frenzy or Frenzy would be cool too. Both are more manageable HP loss than double frenzy.

getting to it..I promise

[Crarites]

That is a good one, I haven't added it yet as I was looking for an actual build for one that someone posted. I think it is more interesting then just posting a generic build that I have created, though if I don't dig one up on the forums I might have to just make my own.



getting to it..I promise

I'm in the process of building one for the next mod. If my numbers are correct, unlikely, then I beleive they will be top DPS or very close to it.

[Borror0]

That is a good one, I haven't added it yet as I was looking for an actual build for one that someone posted. I think it is more interesting then just posting a generic build that I have created, though if I don't dig one up on the forums I might have to just make my own.

Monkey and I ran the calcs for one in the paladin forums. We sort of agree on what one should have, along with Cold Stele.

If my numbers are correct, unlikely, then I beleive they will be top DPS or very close to it.

vs Evil Outsiders, a pure paladin beats you.

[Draccus]

Very interesting...

So what does this say about all those Shroud groups out there that are looking for DPS but have the Rogue icon turned off?