Honor your commitments

[direwolf33]

And that's not the issue, really Moat, I don't think; If I had to guess, if the loot puller had said "OMG I'm sorry guys, I just realized my other buddy needed these, I've *gotta* give these to him," I don't think Varr would have been as unhappy. It was the fact the puller said "up for roll" and then obviously gave the item to someone who didn't win the roll.

That does sound like a nicer way for it to have gone down. This is a game though and I don't think we need threads as serious as this just because one person forgot to apologize. No one was shot killed or robbed here.

I actually saw someone lose some loot this weekend in a very similar way. I believe it was verbally put up for role. 3 people rolled. The loot (glacier gloves) were then given to the sorc who rolled in the middle between two clerics. I totally support that decision. The person who put it up for role had incorrectly assumed that the sorc already had them. Some verbal apologies were made but it still stings to lose.

I also saw an evasion paladin loot the VOD full plate on sunday. That sure must have stung to the non-evasion fighters in the group. Way it goes - you'll see that loot again.

[TFPAQ]

It didn't seem like it had anything to do with you, Varr. I wouldn't worry about that.

If people want to only have their guildies roll on their loot, then so be it. That's not how we handle loot in my guild, but I'm not here to tell people what to do with their pulls.

I think people should just be a little more upfront about their intentions instead of attempting some clandestine maneuver like they did.

You'll pull the goggles another day .

I'm sorry that you had that experience. Balk is one of our officers, and I'm pretty proud that, while we have a system for raiding, it really pretty much comes down to need before greed. And honestly, that holds pretty true whether it is a guild run or a PUG.

Just the other night in a TF I pulled the gyro boots on my halfling mutt who already has the striders and balance more than covered. There were several guildies in the run who wanted them but agreed with me to offer them up to whoever wanted to roll on them as they were the only loot that dropped. As luck would have it one of the guildies rolled a 97 and took home a nice set of new shoes, but I would have been fine with anyone winning them that had the need.

[TFPAQ]

just to set some things straight, this wasn't an internal guild thing as the person who pulled the item and the person that received the item are not guildies, the receiver never asked for the item in guild chat or anywhere behind the scenes, the person who pulled the item simply gave it to him. That's all there was to it, sorry about the rolls and what not but again, any raid loot that you pull is yours to do what you want with it no?

... I don't disagree with you, until you say you are offering it up for a roll. Then what you chose to do with it was chosen... and it should have been honored ...

[direwolf33]

... I don't disagree with you, until you say you are offering it up for a roll. Then what you chose to do with it was chosen... and it should have been honored ...

Again, this was not from what I have heard a clandestine operation. It's your loot and you have the right to make mistakes like accidentally putting something up for roll.

As far as I'm concerned, you also have the right to put it up for roll and then establish conditions based on class or any other personal preferences afterwards.

[Balkas]

As far as I'm concerned, you also have the right to put it up for roll and then establish conditions based on class or any other personal preferences afterwards.

I think it'd be a little more gentlemanly if you "established conditions based on class or any other personal preferences" before people rolled on the item .

[direwolf33]

I think it'd be a little more gentlemanly if you "established conditions based on class or any other personal preferences" before people rolled on the item .

It sure would be, but I reserve the right not to in the interest of saving time. It's hard enough to get the loot into the right people's hands before others start to recall and drop quest, thus increasing the chance that it gets left to someone who's not even in the quest.

[Lady_Draconus]

I was in a VoD run where two pairs of gloves dropped. I gave mine to the other cleric since noone else wanted them. I rolled on the bard cloak for the +6 CHR since the bard already had a +6 CHA item. What I failed to notice was the +15 perform skill on the cloak. I won the roll but when it was brought to my attention reguarding the +15 perform skill I gave it to the bard (he rolled a 1). In return he traded me his other +6 CHR cloak. It was a good run and the cloak is better used by the bard. I might have miss read the item but I made sure it when to the right person in the end. It was a good run for everyone.

[Asherons_Chosen]

(ex: sure, a Barb likes to spot a mob, but he's not going to start finding traps too).

Grawwl almost always finds the traps before the rogues... that why his armor so dented.

[Asherons_Chosen]

I will no longer allow random rolls for stuff I don't want. I am now going to assign it to people who have already left the quest.

muffinspoiler

I got a funny story about that I won't tell, but hah! thanks for reminding me of that situation needed a reason to laugh.

[Strakeln]

Grawwl almost always finds the traps before the rogues... that why his armor so dented.

Finding a trap is not the same as spotting a trap

[Vizzini]

I <3 Jaxx
So I see you've moved over with 8ball eh? They are a great group of people, and I think you will be well taken care of over there

Gotta love someone that replies behind the veil of annonymity defending a Chicken-**** action by a guildie. Either honor the offer to give them to the high roller or let everyone know that your giving them to a specific person. Don't jerk the group around then do something else. The issue is avoided with simple communication but some individuals just have problems in that regard....

[babygirl]

I <3 Jaxx
So I see you've moved over with 8ball eh? They are a great group of people, and I think you will be well taken care of over there

as if he didn't get taken care of with A&O????

[baddax]

I will no longer allow random rolls for stuff I don't want. I am now going to assign it to people who have already left the quest.

muffinspoiler

I am going to quit rolling my unwanted raid loot and start auctioning it off to highest bidder for extra plat!

[Strakeln]

as if he didn't get taken care of with A&O????

Yeah, if I was going to be "taken care of" by a guild leader, I'd pick Babygirl over Eightball every single time!

[babygirl]

Yeah, if I was going to be "taken care of" by a guild leader, I'd pick Babygirl over Eightball every single time!

lmao!

[apacheizm23]

That does sound like a nicer way for it to have gone down. This is a game though and I don't think we need threads as serious as this just because one person forgot to apologize. No one was shot killed or robbed here.

I actually saw someone lose some loot this weekend in a very similar way. I believe it was verbally put up for role. 3 people rolled. The loot (glacier gloves) were then given to the sorc who rolled in the middle between two clerics. I totally support that decision. The person who put it up for role had incorrectly assumed that the sorc already had them. Some verbal apologies were made but it still stings to lose.

I also saw an evasion paladin loot the VOD full plate on sunday. That sure must have stung to the non-evasion fighters in the group. Way it goes - you'll see that loot again.

Hey hey hey wait a minute here Tao! Why U talking about me looting the VODFP on my evasion Paladin? Man you aint right dude!!

[Emili]

Yeah, if I was going to be "taken care of" by a guild leader, I'd pick Babygirl over Eightball every single time!

.... .... B... b.. b but what am I? Bloody chopped liver? Our Jax was as his bio read : "The Archmage of the Fallen Heroes" - before either of these...

I miss those times late at night after a raid as he'd band-aid my wounds, Lay my head on his shoulder while he'd tell me we did well... /kiss his cheek as we said goodnight. I just remember wherever Jax may be, he cannot be pinned down, yet, always a "Core" hero ... Tá cion agam ort "My Jax"

Emi

[Altarboy]

.... .... B... b.. b but what am I? Bloody chopped liver? Our Jax was as his bio read : "The Archmage of the Fallen Heroes" - before either of these...

I miss those times late at night after a raid as he'd band-aid my wounds, Lay my head on his shoulder while he'd tell me we did well... /kiss his cheek as we said goodnight. I just remember wherever Jax may be, he cannot be pinned down, yet, always a "Core" hero ... Tá cion agam ort "My Jax"

Emi

Screw him...he makes too many toons anyway!