Quicken Metamagic for Heal Bot cleric?

[PetertheJerk]

Hey Guys,
I have a pure healing bot cleric and I'm about to hit lvl 12 and was told to take the quicken metamagic feat. Im kinda torn though because it would drastically decrease my mana efficiency to use it (by adding 10mp per cast!). So i was wondering how you cleric pros feel about the feat. Also if you disagree with using quicken, which feat would u suggest?

Here are the feats i've currently taken
lvl 1: Extend Spell
lvl 1: (Human Bonus): Increased # of Turnings
lvl 3: Mental Toughness
lvl 6: Improved mental toughness
lvl 9: Empower Healing
lvl 12: ??
lvl 15: ??

Thanks in advance for the advice

[EazyWeazy]

Take it. Do it. Don't look back. You'll love it. May main cleric swapped into it around mod 5 and I can't believe I waited that long. I've got a new one that is level 11 right now and he can't wait to take it at 12. Enjoy the fun.

[Hobgoblin]

it is not necessary but it is o so nice

[esoitl]

EVERY Cleric should have Quicken.
Blade Barriers are amazing yet they take so bloody long to cast. There are also certain times during the Shroud(Part 3, parts of Part 4) I have it on and then turn it off promptly to save SP.

It's not something you will have on all the time but it is almost a must have.

[Oreg]

A pure healing bot can still be an effective damage dealer. Drop the Increased number of turnings (get them from enhancements if you want) and pickup Quicken, Maximize and Empower.

[Arnya]

Save SP?

Take Max, Emp, Extend, Quicken. Forget Empower Healing.

Your blade barriers and harms mitigate the need for buckets of Sp to heal lesser classes

Seriously though, pure healbots = pure damagebots if you swap a few feats you can play however the mood takes ya

[PetertheJerk]

Save SP?

Take Max, Emp, Extend, Quicken. Forget Empower Healing.

Your blade barriers and harms mitigate the need for buckets of Sp to heal lesser classes

Seriously though, pure healbots = pure damagebots if you swap a few feats you can play however the mood takes ya

Hey Arnya i think your in the wrong thread. Sounds to me like your trying to make a DPS sorc

[Uska]

No doubt take it

[PetertheJerk]

Alright deal ill take it. Any suggestions on my lvl 15 feat? And does any cleric take toughness?

[Junts]

Hey Arnya i think your in the wrong thread. Sounds to me like your trying to make a DPS sorc

The point is that you can make a cleric that is both an excellent healer and does something else (dps or offesnvie cast) with basically no penalty. 60 sp for some caster or cleric is nothing compared to mobs running back and forth through a 240 damage blade barrier


hwoever, even if you don't do that, quicken is essential for high-level raiding: if you're losing concentration on mass heals, people will die and you fail as a cleric. The ability to evade concentration checks is essential, even if you toggle it on and off and don't use it all the time

[Uska]

Alright deal ill take it. Any suggestions on my lvl 15 feat? And does any cleric take toughness?

maximize can turn on or as you want for healing and even as a healbot its nice to be able to drop a blade barrier now and then.

[Junts]

Alright deal ill take it. Any suggestions on my lvl 15 feat? And does any cleric take toughness?

Every toon shoudl take toughness, imo anyway; especially if you do not know the character extremely well. if you're human, its 52 hp; if your hp are under 250 as a cleric, definitely; you dont have fire sheild and you have a terrible reflex save.

[Mhykke]

quicken is essential for high-level raiding

I agree it's nice.

I don't agree that it's essential.

[Oreg]

Hey Arnya i think your in the wrong thread. Sounds to me like your trying to make a DPS sorc

Actually his/her suggestion is the same as mine and makes you a good dps machine without any cost to your healing. All you lost was a few dvs. It's good sound advice and I will be awaiting your post when you come back some months from now thanking he/she and I for it

[Junts]

I agree it's nice.

I don't agree that it's essential.

if a bat explosion makes your cleric lose concentration on a mass heal, vod gets ugly quickly

sure, there's a variety of ways to avoid the problem, but none of them is guaranteed; quicken is

[Mhykke]

if a bat explosion makes your cleric lose concentration on a mass heal, vod gets ugly quickly

sure, there's a variety of ways to avoid the problem, but none of them is guaranteed; quicken is

I've never had quicken on my cleric, and I can honestly say I don't remember the last time I failed a concentration check. And I don't just stand in the back and heal. If I have any hp damage, I jump in the middle of the fray and mass heal the party so I get some love also. I've done every quest w/ my cleric, on all different kinds of difficulties. Quicken is very nice if you can fit it in. It's far from a requirement though.

[Arnya]

Hey Arnya i think your in the wrong thread. Sounds to me like your trying to make a DPS sorc

All sorcs are DPS unless you make deliberately bad choices.

Any cleric that takes empower healing over any other metamagic is going to have a boring, quite possibly gimpy, life.

Like I said, with the right feat selection, a healbot IS a dps-bot as long as you dont squander your feats on what other party members 'need'.

[Auran82]

I'm also a fan of empower healing, esp if you can take the enhancements and have something with the "Improved Empower Healing II' ability on it.

4sp for +50% to your healing spells is nice

I ended up dropping IMT for it, I'm finding that 1595 sp is more than enough and I in many quests I will use scrolls to make sure I always have SP when I need it.

[Thorzian]

i agree with the others.. maximize for yer last.

[EazyWeazy]

I'd take maximize for your last feat and swap out the Extra turning for toughness. As people have said here, you can lay down the DPS with BBs and not sacrifice any effectiveness in your healing ability.