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    Default Max str with cap at 16?

    18 Base
    10 Barbarian rage(base6 with +4 AP line)
    4 Dual madstones
    4 stat increase points(4,8,12,16)
    8 Scourge Choker
    2 Rage spell
    1 Human point
    3 tome
    6 item
    =56 STR


    ..am I missing somthing other than a shroud str wep?


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    Scourge choker is 6, 6 stat item, Litany of the Dead

    edit: and the +stat potions.

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    lmao...missed the stat item
    The Choker is 8, I am positive.
    adn the lotd would bring me to an odd number so I didnt coutn it in, plus most players dont do the Abbot everynight with completion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superdude4000iv View Post
    lmao...missed the stat item
    The Choker is 8, I am positive.
    adn the lotd would bring me to an odd number so I didnt coutn it in, plus most players dont do the Abbot everynight with completion.

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    Post a ss where you gain 8 from the choker(or 4 from tier 3 of the choker).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strykersz View Post
    Post a ss where you gain 8 from the choker(or 4 from tier 3 of the choker).

    http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...urgeChoker.jpg

    I have a choker one of my barbarians lol...its +8

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    one of the blood rage tiers doesn't stack with one of all the other (spell, barb, madstone clicky, madstone proc)rages, you will only get +6 from it when stacking str mods.

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    Trust me, you get all +8

    When you have all 3 teirs at the same time bloodrage 3 gives you +4 instead of the normal +2....so you get +8 total.


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    Quote Originally Posted by superdude4000iv View Post
    Trust me, you get all +8

    When you have all 3 teirs at the same time bloodrage 3 gives you +4 instead of the normal +2....so you get +8 total.


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    No, you don't(and even if that were the case, the third tier's description would be bugged).

    Go ahead and post a ss where you get +8 from the scourge choker. If someone wants to post a link to the Shade ss or the one from the original thread, you can do the math and see that they got +6 from it(in those threads, it's blamed on stacking. It isn't a stacking issue, the third tier only grants you +2).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strykersz View Post
    No, you don't(and even if that were the case, the third tier's description would be bugged).

    Go ahead and post a ss where you get +8 from the scourge choker. If someone wants to post a link to the Shade ss or the one from the original thread, you can do the math and see that they got +6 from it(in those threads, it's blamed on stacking. It isn't a stacking issue, the third tier only grants you +2).
    my ss which supports strykersz's arguement but there are people who claimed they have tested it but no ss to date. 26 non raged str, 18 str from rage for total of 44 str. 3 tiers of madstone = 8, rage spell = 2, item = 6, double madstone = 4. if all stacked total should be 20

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    +1 exceptional str on DT armor And +1 lotd would get you another 2.

    So that another +2 possible.

    EDIT: Took off shroud weapon since I notice you mention not including that in OP post.
    Last edited by mgoldb2; 02-28-2009 at 10:25 PM.

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    I have seen it with my own eyes on my WF barbarian that uses a choker, I have gotten all +8.

    I will get a ss later tonight if I get a chance.

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    missing 3 from potions, 3 from exceptional stat, and 1 from LOTD

    and for me choker is only +6, altho for you it might possibly be +8 with buffs. I already found out that docent of defiance behaves differently on different characters, wouldnt surprise me if some chokers actually gave the bonus they're listed as having.

    total 61 human on a +6 choker, 63 human on a +8 choker
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    I have tested the choker alot. U do get +8 from it. BUT 2 of that 8 does not stack with the rage spell. 100% positive on that. So u will see it go up to +8 with no other buffs running. Theres maybe 3 situations where i use the choker. Main tanking sulu when the chains arnt up. smacking on the DQ, and occasionally part 5 of shroud..but generally only on elite. The choker can quite often result in negative dps if you dont use it properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick_robinsonchia View Post
    I have tested the choker alot. U do get +8 from it. BUT 2 of that 8 does not stack with the rage spell. 100% positive on that. So u will see it go up to +8 with no other buffs running. Theres maybe 3 situations where i use the choker. Main tanking sulu when the chains arnt up. smacking on the DQ, and occasionally part 5 of shroud..but generally only on elite. The choker can quite often result in negative dps if you dont use it properly.

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    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...rsz/norage.jpg

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    Unhappy

    Guess we need a Dev to confirm if the choker is bugged cause right now it only gives +6 str, this is not a "+2" not stacking but simply not given.



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    Good call just tried it and ur right. Coulda sworn when the thing first came out i counted 8...

    Stand corrected.
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    I count 6 on mine as well, but all of that six stacks. Theres just noway for my barb to currently hit 52 str w/o exceptional stat or alc potions, of which he has neither.
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    throw in 2 fighter levels and you can get another pt of str

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    Default pure?

    pure barb is

    18 base
    4 level
    8 choker
    10 rage
    2 rage spell
    9 shroud item
    1 human
    3 tome
    4 madstone
    59
    14 barb 2 fighter
    same except
    2 fighter you get 1 more str
    60 str

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeRoy View Post
    pure barb is

    18 base
    4 level
    8 choker
    10 rage
    2 rage spell
    9 shroud item
    1 human
    3 tome
    4 madstone
    59
    14 barb 2 fighter
    same except
    2 fighter you get 1 more str
    60 str
    What;s the Shroud item, if a weapon, then, what about the Min II, is it an either or case with the High STR, either 59 STR and no Mineral II, or Mineral II but no +9 Str?

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