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    Default can i get Jump skill to 76 or is caped at 40?

    Hey i want to make a ranger.
    Should i put 19 ranks into jump, so that with the spell(30) + srt(12) + item(15) + ranks(19) = 76.
    Or is the skill been capped at 40?

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    Default why?

    would ya wana waste all those points to get yer jump that high? i do not get it .let me guess you have a lot into listen too rotf

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    Quote Originally Posted by dopey69 View Post
    would ya wana waste all those points to get yer jump that high? i do not get it .let me guess you have a lot into listen too rotf
    Why? Cause it's fun to be able to solo The Pit

    But I believe the skill is capped at (effective) 40; even though the numbers go higher, the height you can jump doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arianrhod View Post
    Why? Cause it's fun to be able to solo The Pit

    But I believe the skill is capped at (effective) 40; even though the numbers go higher, the height you can jump doesn't.
    You don't need any Jump to solo The Pit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rimble View Post
    You don't need any Jump to solo The Pit.
    seconded
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    Fernando has yet to even suggest a nerf of anything.
    Oh and by the way (referring to your sig), we aren't nerfing the Torc.

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    why do you care if he wants a high jump?


    I have 16-20 jump on all my dps toons. It's nice to be able to pop around.

    We don't have much else to put pts into (at least to be effective late lvl)
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    Quote Originally Posted by General_Bob View Post
    why do you care if he wants a high jump?


    I have 16-20 jump on all my dps toons. It's nice to be able to pop around.

    We don't have much else to put pts into (at least to be effective late lvl)
    because they are wasted points thats all ballance haggle tumble umd even bluff and diplomacy are better than maxing jump especially if you have the spell
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    Fernando has yet to even suggest a nerf of anything.
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    well at 1/2 pt per full pt. i really don't see getting that stuff high enough to be valuable.. he'll get like a 15 in haggle.

    My lvl one has a buffed haggle of 22

    pointless

    you need a buff/diplo/intim of 21-30 for GH stuff...
    pointless

    tumble at 15 may be useful and he can put his 2pts into that and balance
    usefull

    heal useful

    still a couple pts left over, put em into jump

    If you're actually recommending a ranger to put points into umd, you may want to just stop playing the game. most umd starts around 20. (some are like 14), but he will get NOWHERE close to that.

    32skillpoints into umd -> 16 umd
    maybe 10 Char (+0 mod)
    +6 Cha item -> +3 mod
    circlet of persuasion +3 mod
    22 umd (like a dps is gonna where that stuff, UNLESS he is intim tank then he'll where the circlet to lvl 11 then he gets minos

    that's more or less how i do it.

    too many people think dumping pts into diplo or bluff or etc is good.. it's a ******** waste of time unless you are going to have enough to actually use the skill around gianthold lvls.

    Just my opinion though, I suspect that came off a bit harsh and i apologize for being shrude
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    Quote Originally Posted by General_Bob View Post
    well at 1/2 pt per full pt. i really don't see getting that stuff high enough to be valuable.. he'll get like a 15 in haggle.

    My lvl one has a buffed haggle of 22

    pointless

    you need a buff/diplo/intim of 21-30 for GH stuff...
    pointless

    tumble at 15 may be useful and he can put his 2pts into that and balance
    usefull

    heal useful

    still a couple pts left over, put em into jump

    If you're actually recommending a ranger to put points into umd, you may want to just stop playing the game. most umd starts around 20. (some are like 14), but he will get NOWHERE close to that.

    32skillpoints into umd -> 16 umd
    maybe 10 Char (+0 mod)
    +6 Cha item -> +3 mod
    circlet of persuasion +3 mod
    22 umd (like a dps is gonna where that stuff, UNLESS he is intim tank then he'll where the circlet to lvl 11 then he gets minos

    that's more or less how i do it.

    too many people think dumping pts into diplo or bluff or etc is good.. it's a ******** waste of time unless you are going to have enough to actually use the skill around gianthold lvls.

    Just my opinion though, I suspect that came off a bit harsh and i apologize for being shrude
    you can be as harsh as you want your still wrong my point was ANY skill would be better because even tho 15 points in haggle isn't great it's better than the WASTED points in jump since it caps at 40 10+jump spell is max anyway.


    umd should be on every toon

    10 base cha=0 mod
    9 1/2 ranks max crossclass
    3 +6 item
    +4 gh
    +3 deleras necklace
    +6 shroud item can be lightning guard or sp for casters
    +2 head of good fortune
    thats 27 umd able to equip almost all rr items

    +2 tome
    +5 ranger or human skillboost
    +2 for seven fingered gloves
    is 35 no fail on a raise scroll for a ranger

    hows that for useless? selfcast heal scrolls who needs them pfft.
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    Oh and by the way (referring to your sig), we aren't nerfing the Torc.

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    It's a game, it's about having fun. Forget soloing the Pit. How about jumping up to the hand of that statue in the Harbor? There aren't that many games that let you jump around as much as DDO does, why not take advantage of it, if that's what you happen to enjoy?

    I do think they capped it, though, so in that sense, putting a lot of points into it may well be a waste.

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    i agree with wasting pts above 40. hell even 20 should be max

    but to say every toon should have umd is ridiculous. who has a bunch of rr items and is gonna put those on thier toon for"umd" instead of having items they need. like str bracers. or minos legens?
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    Quote Originally Posted by General_Bob View Post
    i agree with wasting pts above 40. hell even 20 should be max

    but to say every toon should have umd is ridiculous. who has a bunch of rr items and is gonna put those on thier toon for"umd" instead of having items they need. like str bracers. or minos legens?
    u can put it all on just to bypass rr on items none of which you have to continue to wear.Heal scroll yourself? ya who needs that.
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    Oh and by the way (referring to your sig), we aren't nerfing the Torc.

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    I suppose you make a relatively valid point with the heal scrolls.

    It merely seems quite a bit of work to achieve and maintain the ability to scroll heal.
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    it is alot of work but when you reach it there is that sense of self acomplishment it took alot of work to get there but you can now heal yourself and have to depend less on other people.
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    Fernando has yet to even suggest a nerf of anything.
    Oh and by the way (referring to your sig), we aren't nerfing the Torc.

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    so what do you give up item wise while you are wearing umd boosters?
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    neck maybe con for the golden cartouche or gloves if u get the titan gloves the +6 cha skills shroud item you give up nothing for just do hp every time go air pos get 45 hp +6 cha skills and make it a lightningstrike item.

    Gh you will already have switch 2 items the neck for cartouch or the gloves for titan gloves and switch in a +6 cha item and your set.
    Quote Originally Posted by MadFloyd View Post
    Fernando has yet to even suggest a nerf of anything.
    Oh and by the way (referring to your sig), we aren't nerfing the Torc.

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    Default To answer the question "Why?"

    First of all thank you for all you replies.

    to answer the question "Why?"
    I play a 16 Sor and I spend most of my time jumping(skill 38) and Firewall/FoD.
    It's a good way to range and avoid getting hit.

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    yes i agree but as i said over a 10 is pointless IF you plan on having the spell 10+30=40...cap
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    Oh and by the way (referring to your sig), we aren't nerfing the Torc.

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    My level 14 thief acrobat can hit about 76 jump unfortunately there is no difference from a 40 or what have you. I have heard people can hit about 95-100 or so but again like I said no difference..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lifespawn View Post
    yes i agree but as i said over a 10 is pointless IF you plan on having the spell 10+30=40...cap
    I hope that they make super high skill scores cool someday.. Epicish skills would be very cool...
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