The Monster. 12 Fighter / 6 ranger / 2 monk

[Borror0]

Your calcs are unreadable.

[vtecfiend99]

go ahead. I'll laugh at you.

I am not sure if you know exactly how rude this is in english Bor, I see you say it a lot.

[Borror0]

PM'd instead.

[Aaxeyu]

No. Eight minutes is not sustainable.

Anyway, the 18/1/1 ranger build out-DPS when you run out of Haste Boost and still have Power Surge charges.

8 minutes might not be enough for a RPer, but for an EU powergamer its more than enough.

You are wrong, the 18/1/1 will not out-dps the monster.

You don't get it. My point was that your sample is too small that if you're only off my two swings, which is not a lot, my number is right.

PS: I'll go over the calcs and reply later.

But I tested 10+ times, so I am sure that they are accurate. Go test it yourself if you're going to be so **** stubborn.

Your calcs are unreadable.

Fixed them some, you are the first one who ever have had problems reading them btw.

[Borror0]

Fixed them some, you are the first one who ever have had problems reading them btw.

Possible. I'm very lazy and don't like to figure out puzzles when I don't have to.

Do these for me:

• Separate breakdown of base damage. (Clear one, like you did here.)
• Swing rates used. (Base and multipliers.)

I'll be fine with the rest.

Right now, I just get confused when parsing your data.

EDIT: Add the same for a FB barbarian too, please. Thank you.

[Wizzly_Bear]

I was not off by two swings lower, getting 40-42 hits while counting somewhere around 9-10 seconds multiple times suggest that 120 is the lower end of the spectrum, not the higher.

in a sample that small, being off by 2 swings and/or 1 sec can make a big difference. use a larger sample if you want statistical accuracy.

[Wizzly_Bear]

Just to give you guys an insight to reality on the EU servers: 13 min vod elite.

havent been playing lately so i could be remembering wrong, but that looks liek normal difficulty xp to me.

[Aaxeyu]

Possible. I'm very lazy and don't like to figure out puzzles when I don't have to.

Do these for me:

• Separate breakdown of base damage. (Clear one, like you did here.)
• Swing rates used. (Base and multipliers.)

I'll be fine with the rest.

Right now, I just get confused when parsing your data.

EDIT: Add the same for a FB barbarian too, please. Thank you.

The calcs are fine imo.
You can see the base swing rate, and I have already said how I multiply it.

[Angelus_dead]

havent been playing lately so i could be remembering wrong, but that looks liek normal difficulty xp to me.

More importantly, one guy used 25 mana potions, so probably other players used some too. That's an inefficient way to run the quest, because it took a lot more than 13 minutes to loot that many potions.

[Borror0]

The calcs are fine imo.

Whether or not you can has no impact on how easily can read or understand them. I can't, and that is all that matters.

[Aaxeyu]

More importantly, one guy used 25 mana potions, so probably other players used some too. That's an inefficient way to run the quest, because it took a lot more than 13 minutes to loot that many potions.

Go in there with that few clerics and a group with few ac builds and you will see similar pot uses. And also recall that there were no Monster present and pointing out how much resources are needed are far out of topic. The point about vod 13 mins is that there is no fight that lasts longer then 8 mins, even the dreaded "sally fight". Hell, go there normal with only high dps builds and you'll see the timer going down to below 8 mins or something, where half the time is buffing and waiting when he's casting spells or when you're killing bats. Hence, 8 min is long enough for ANY quest, at least in EU where powergamers actually skip the trash .

[Aaxeyu]

Whether or not you can has no impact on how easily can read or understand them. I can't, and that is all that matters.

It's a funny coinsident that when I post the calcs that shows that The Monster deals more dps than The Exploiter you suddenly can't read the calculations.

I will post them the way you like it later.

[Borror0]

I will post them the way you like it later.

Thank you, very much.

[Shyver]

at least in EU where powergamers actually skip the trash .

Are you somehow implying that the EU powergamers are better than the US powergamers in some fashion?

[Nick_RC]

Are you somehow implying that the EU powergamers are better than the US powergamers in some fashion?

Aye thats what i wanna knw too. Il be interested too see just what these super leet power gamers are capable of...

[Mhykke]

Go in there with that few clerics and a group with few ac builds and you will see similar pot uses.

Sorry, had to jump in here. I don't understand what you mean. VOD elite with 2 clerics is fairly standard. And the most AC builds I see in there is 1. Don't really know what you meant with that quote, but 25 mana pots total on VOD elite is an awful run (nevermind on just 1 person), or should be, on either side of the pond.

[Aaxeyu]

No, I'm not implying that EU powergamers are better, but considering on the responses and the ridicules statements that 8 mins isn't constant is completly out of whack, and makes me strongly doubt the abilities of US powergamers, mayhap the ones who post here aren't powergamers. But this is a powergamer build, and it's built for powergamers after all.

about the major pots.
I can't really answer anything about it, since I wasn't in the raid, I just found the best time we had on EU and posted it just to show you that there aren't any long fights in this game. Yes, the resources might have been many, but point remains - 13 mins elite. It is a disscusion about dps after all.

[Shyver]

and makes me strongly doubt the abilities of US powergamers,

Make sure you pass along that assumption to whomever was nice enough to let you post under their forum name. As they belong to one of the "powergamer" guilds.

[BLAKROC]

You simply want the DPS or you want to know how quickly it beats Monster?

hmmm both would be ideal either one is fine tho. and ty vm .

blak

[Borror0]

hmmm both would be ideal either one is fine tho. and ty vm .

Race? WF or human?