The Monster. 12 Fighter / 6 ranger / 2 monk

[Comfortably]

i think the more important issue here isnt the transmuting effect but with backstab itself. you have correctly determined that assuming 100% SA, the dps is greater. like what you have described, 100% SA is impossible to attain and gave several reasons. but there is 1 more reason, which is given the dps nature of the monster, it is almost impossible to lose agro (unless diplo, someone intim or radiance)

also another factor is khopesh is not a good weapon to have radiance on since it crits less than a rapier. in my experience, i do not think i ever saw a radiance khopesh being crafted. strength base khopesh weilding rogues are more likely to have mineral 2 instead or even lightning strike

ps i dun think raid bosses can be blinded but i could be wrong here

I have seen several radiance khopeshs crafted, I belive Katsumi or Serpentwave was the first to craft a radiance wepon.

You are right, raid bosses are immune ti the blind effect but can still be hit be the light dmg and sneak attack dmg.

[Thriand]

I have seen several radiance khopeshs crafted, I belive Katsumi or Serpentwave was the first to craft a radiance wepon.

You are right, raid bosses are immune ti the blind effect but can still be hit be the light dmg and sneak attack dmg.

that was before 18-20 shroud items existed and as the first to make a radiance item he obviously didn't know what it was going to do. But the real question is why worry about radiance against a red names when you can craft both it and a mineral II

[Comfortably]

that was before 18-20 shroud items existed and as the first to make a radiance item he obviously didn't know what it was going to do. But the real question is why worry about radiance against a red names when you can craft both it and a mineral II

...but he was still the first...lol most of the time while fighting Harry he spins around not really agro-ing on anyone...he just spins around so most of the time you'd get sneak attack dmg anyway.

[baddax]

Counting 100% SA, yes. By ~5-10 DPS.

Counting 100% sa is hardly resonable on a build like this though, since:
1) You don't have radiance
2) You don't haev -threat enhancements.
3) All of "the three battles" have fortification. (Suulo, arra, Sor'jek)

Haflings also having higher Ac potential.

[QuantumFX]

Halfings also having higher Ac potential.

This build would be a natural choice for a gnome! You could trade the +1 AC/Save/meaningless to hit for a more substantial +40 HP and Fort saves!

[Comfortably]

Haflings also having higher Ac potential.

I ended up rerolling as a halfling, yes more DPS via SA and also a better "self-healing" role via the dragon mark. I might be a bit tighter when it comes to feats, but I'll have a bit higher AC, saves and a bit more when it comes to dmg, and self healing which is big for me.

[Trillea]

Now that we know about the new loot on Lamannia, how do you think that this build will change? I am thinking of rolling one up, or something similar.

[Absolute-Omniscience]

Now that we know about the new loot on Lamannia, how do you think that this build will change? I am thinking of rolling one up, or something similar.

This is the gear we're thinking, if the Shintao ring is +6 dex. If it's not, swap the shintao ring for tempest ring and the necklace for tempest. Compared to shintao gains would be: +2,5 slashing damage and +15 balance. Would lose 2 exceptional damage and 2 to hit.

Main hand - Mineral Khopesh, acid blast 
Off hand - Mineral Khopesh, +4 insight
Armor - Dragontouched: +10% healing, +20% healing, chatter ring  
Bracers - Chaosgarde
Ring - Shintao, +6 dex, +1X, +30% healing
Boots - madstone
Gloves - Greensteel, +6 wis, +7 will save +1 fort save, concordant opposition
Ring - FB ring, 6 str, +1X, 2 str
Belt - FB belt, GFL +6 con 
Cloak - +5 ref save, +1 will save, +2 ref save. Radiance guard.
Trinket - bloodstone
Necklace - Shintao +6 con +15 concentration
Helmet - +5 fort save, 35 hp (20,15) +5 prot, heavy fort, stoneskin clicky
Goggles - Tharnes goggles, +5 SA, true seeing, +15 search, +15 spot.

Would lose:
Destruction
tumble weed

Would gain
2 dmg swing (fb)
3 excep str
30% healing
2 to hit
2 damage
1 Whatever the shintao monk exceptional is
1 Whatever the FB ring exceptional is

It is also possible to go insight IV on the ring and go acid blast on the khopesh. This would yield higher dps vs non-resistance mobs, but less vs those with acid res. Those with acid are pretty common, so +2 str will be a higher average increase in damage.

[Trillea]

This is the gear we're thinking, if the Shintao ring is +6 dex. If it's not, swap the shintao ring for tempest ring and the necklace for tempest. Compared to shintao gains would be: +2,5 slashing damage and +15 balance. Would lose 2 exceptional damage and 2 to hit.

Main hand - Mineral Khopesh, acid blast 
Off hand - Mineral Khopesh, +4 insight
Armor - Dragontouched: +10% healing, +20% healing, chatter ring  
Bracers - Chaosgarde
Ring - Shintao, +6 dex, +1X, +30% healing
Boots - madstone
Gloves - Greensteel, +6 wis, +7 will save +1 fort save, concordant opposition
Ring - FB ring, 6 str, +1X, 2 str
Belt - FB belt, GFL +6 con 
Cloak - +5 ref save, +1 will save, +2 ref save. Radiance guard.
Trinket - bloodstone
Necklace - Shintao +6 con +15 concentration
Helmet - +5 fort save, 35 hp (20,15) +5 prot, heavy fort, stoneskin clicky
Goggles - Tharnes goggles, +5 SA, true seeing, +15 search, +15 spot.

Would lose:
Destruction
tumble weed

Would gain
2 dmg swing (fb)
3 excep str
30% healing
2 to hit
2 damage
1 Whatever the shintao monk exceptional is
1 Whatever the FB ring exceptional is

It is also possible to go insight IV on the ring and go acid blast on the khopesh. This would yield higher dps vs non-resistance mobs, but less vs those with acid res. Those with acid are pretty common, so +2 str will be a higher average increase in damage.

Why the conc opp and radiance guard? The only spells this guy will be casting are buffs so SP regen won't really be too necessary. As for radiance guard this build has no rogue for sneak attack so I don't see the need for radiance unless I am missing something.

[Absolute-Omniscience]

Why the conc opp and radiance guard? The only spells this guy will be casting are buffs so SP regen won't really be too necessary. As for radiance guard this build has no rogue for sneak attack so I don't see the need for radiance unless I am missing something.

The conc opp is gained for free, the real deal with that item is the:
+6 wis, +7 will save +1 fort save

Conc opp is % chance for false life, so increases the survivability.

Same goes with radiance guard, the real deal is:
+5 ref save, +1 will save, +2 ref save

Radiance guard is still ~20% chance for 4d6 damage. And blind is useful for trash mobs

[Trillea]

I see. I was just thinking that the double-shard upgrade is overkill and you could get the tier 3 upgrade without the special ability, and I may well do that for the conc opp. I don't have the stones/scales to make everything dual shard, I got too many characters..

[BoBoDaClown]

Hi guys,

I have a level 6 dwarven tank build that I was thinking of changing into something similar to this. I know I could reroll, but this toon isn't going to get a lot of time, so is it necessary?

Lawful Good Dwarfen Fighter

Starting Stats (at 1):
Str: 16
Dex: 15
Con: 14
Wis: 8
Int: 12 (chewed +2 tome) = 14
Cha: 12

Feats (can't remember order taken):
1: Bullheaded, CE (bullheaded ---->WF slashing)
2: Improved Trip (---->PA)
3: FOP
4: TWF (------>Weapon Spec)
6: Toughness, OTWF (OTWF------>Lightening Reflexes)

Could I do something like this:

7: Ranger
8: Ranger
9: Ranger (OTWF)
10: Ranger
11: Ranger
12: Ranger (IC)
13: Monk (feat: dodge)
14: Monk (feat: mobility)
15: Fighter (feat: spring attack)
16: Fighter (GTWF)

Would that adjust this character into something like the 'Monster' build?

Any advice would be appreciated

[Zzevel]

Reading all the arguing makes my head hurt, too many nerds with their calculations.... All I wanna know is why am I using 2 levels of monk again? Wouldn't I get the evasion with the 6 levels of ranger?

[SEMPER]

Reading all the arguing makes my head hurt, too many nerds with their calculations.... All I wanna know is why am I using 2 levels of monk again? Wouldn't I get the evasion with the 6 levels of ranger?

no it takes 9 levels of ranger to get evasion so either go more ranger or stick with the two levels of monk your choice , but the monk levels definitely increase your ac , but again still your choice

[poonce]

Noone noticed that he cant take Greater Weapon Specialisation: Slashing @ Lvl 18 because you have to be Fighter 12 as a Pre to take the feat?

[Absolute-Omniscience]

Noone noticed that he cant take Greater Weapon Specialisation: Slashing @ Lvl 18 because you have to be Fighter 12 as a Pre to take the feat?

As said on several places. This build-layout is a bit old. A lot of updates have been added to the build posted on the EU forums, the one can edit without paying a subscription here on US.

http://community.codemasters.com/for...&postcount=188

[Thak_Skyblade]

I have been trying this build out (only 4 levels so far, 2 Monk 2 Rngr, I dont get much time to play) and so far I am extremely disappointed.

Maybe I am doing something wrong but so far it seems that I have to use unarmed attacks to do any sort of DPS and my AC sucks horribly.

Can anyone suggest what equipment I should be using at low levels i.e 4-8? Maybe I am missing something there?

[Absolute-Omniscience]

I have been trying this build out (only 4 levels so far, 2 Monk 2 Rngr, I dont get much time to play) and so far I am extremely disappointed.

Maybe I am doing something wrong but so far it seems that I have to use unarmed attacks to do any sort of DPS and my AC sucks horribly.

Can anyone suggest what equipment I should be using at low levels i.e 4-8? Maybe I am missing something there?

At low levels this build aint all too fancy. I would suggest sticking with Sword and Shield unless you can twink out with potions etc.

And ofcourse, don't dualwield two khopehses until you get OTWF.

[UnseenShadow]

So what is the order of choosing the classes with in the build, does it actually matter?

[Aranticus]

So what is the order of choosing the classes with in the build, does it actually matter?

if you want to save on the feats, you have to get the 6 ranger levels before L18