Caster w/o Firewall?!?!?!

[Medic11]

Has anyone ever created a caster that specializes in Acid/Electric spells?

I just rolled a WF Wizzy that I had planned on building around acid/electric and cc spells. So I was wondering if there is anyone out there (and I'm sure there is) that has attepmted this before and if so did they like it? Just seems to me that almost every caster out there is fire spec'd.

[Xyrandina]

I played with a person yesterday that used only CK and Acid rain. It made it a bit rough on the party (in Trial by FIRE), kind of annoying really. Who am I to judge, my sorceress (15Src/1Bard) does not carry GH (I have a planar gird) and I don't do extend either. Play your character how YOU want to play it. Have fun....enjoy the time you have on ddo....because its not much with these awesome downtimes lately.

[Bilger]

We had a sorc in guild who went that route from what I could tell he had alot of fun with it. At higher levels though he did say he felt a lil useless at times because not many good high level spells and some of the immunities that mobs had. But overall he seemed to have a blast with it and was very deadly!!! When things not immune lol

[Impaqt]

Why someone wouldnt carry Wall of Fire is beyond me. My WF Wiz is indeed full Acid/Lightning specced and I stil never take WoF off my hotbar.

Even with little to no enhancement, Firewall can doa ton of damage in a short period of time. Much more than an acid rain even if it crits.

[mediocresurgeon]

For certain quests, no Wall of Fire works just fine. For others, I'm reforming my group--without the caster.

[RATRACE931]

My caster is Fire/Cold specced just because i find firewall extremely usefull and most of my favorite spells are kind of bum I.E. Acid Rain, Melf Acid Arrow. But for CC spells the most deadly combo for nearly anything is as follows, Acid Fog on top of Sleet Storm inside a Incendiary Cloud with Web and Cloudkill and maybe a dancing ball. Mana extensive, useless in most raid groups... but **** ****IN FUN!

[Samadhi]

my wiz is acid/elec spec'd and my sorc is force spec'd. The number breakdowns on most spells (NOT firewall) are reasonably comparative no matter what line you go. I would say, however, to take firewall even if you aren't spec'd in it at all. It's DPS potential for certain encounters is so much higher than any other spell that it is pretty clutch.

[Bilger]

For certain quests, no Wall of Fire works just fine. For others, I'm reforming my group--without the caster.

Things like this are such BS just because it is not the IDEAL group and a caster does not have the IDEAL spell does not mean you can't complete. It is nice if they do but if they don't adapt and overcome that is a sign of a good player. Only bad players or bad leaders need to reform the group because the caster has no firewall. It does alot of damage but have you ever seen what a max impowered acid fog with a couple of chain lightnings thrown in can do. Just think and adapt fog slows them down and damages and a chain lightning hitting them together will outdamage a firewall but like I said the blanket immunities suck and OMG most are fire immune now!!! Sorry had to rant just hate when people can't think outside the box!!

[unionyes]

Until they teach the mobs to get out of the firewall rather then stand there shooting arrows at you, Firewall is a must have. You can be acid/electric specced, or repair/force specced, but that doesn't mean you can't have Firewall.

If you had to be specced a certain way to carry certain spells, my sorc wouldn't have magic missile.

[Impaqt]

Things like this are such BS just because it is not the IDEAL group and a caster does not have the IDEAL spell does not mean you can't complete. It is nice if they do but if they don't adapt and overcome that is a sign of a good player. Only bad players or bad leaders need to reform the group because the caster has no firewall. It does alot of damage but have you ever seen what a max impowered acid fog with a couple of chain lightnings thrown in can do. Just think and adapt fog slows them down and damages and a chain lightning hitting them together will outdamage a firewall but like I said the blanket immunities suck and OMG most are fire immune now!!! Sorry had to rant just hate when people can't think outside the box!!

AS I said, I'm completely Acid/Lightnng speced and an acid fog/Multiple Chain Lightings cant cmpare to what a single WoF can do in the right situation. Trolls? Undead? Its not even close. not to mention Chain Lightning is Broken..... It never jumps to alltargets corectly.....

[rimble]

Has anyone ever created a caster that specializes in Acid/Electric spells?

I just rolled a WF Wizzy that I had planned on building around acid/electric and cc spells. So I was wondering if there is anyone out there (and I'm sure there is) that has attepmted this before and if so did they like it? Just seems to me that almost every caster out there is fire spec'd.

That's just stupid...I'm spec'd in both. Just missing Lineage of Deadly Elements III...is it the best idea in the world? Probably not even close, but it works.

Level 16 (Sorcerer)
Enhancement: Sorcerer Improved Empowering I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Improved Maximizing I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Energy I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Energy II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Energy III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Elements I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Elements II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Elements III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Deadly Energy I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Deadly Energy II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Deadly Energy III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Deadly Elements I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Lineage of Deadly Elements II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy Manipulation I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy Manipulation II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy Manipulation III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Enerrgy Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Sorcerer Elemental Manipulation I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Elemental Manipulation II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Elemental Manipulation III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Elemental Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Sorcerer Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Charisma I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Charisma II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Charisma III

[Bilger]

AS I said, I'm completely Acid/Lightnng speced and an acid fog/Multiple Chain Lightings cant cmpare to what a single WoF can do in the right situation. Trolls? Undead? Its not even close. not to mention Chain Lightning is Broken..... It never jumps to alltargets corectly.....

Reading for the win. I said firewall is nice to have BUT was commenting on the point of reforming a group because a caster does not have the so called myst have speell. I agree completely firewall in alot of situations is more powerful but a good acid fog amd chain can kill and outdamage just as fast if not faster in some situations.

[Impaqt]

Reading for the win. I said firewall is nice to have BUT was commenting on the point of reforming a group because a caster does not have the so called myst have speell. I agree completely firewall in alot of situations is more powerful but a good acid fog amd chain can kill and outdamage just as fast if not faster in some situations.

FOr some people, Sure. But a Party leader has the right to restart a quest at any time with our without whoever he wants.

I would never start a run over because X didnt have Y spell, but I respect the rights of party leaders to do what they feel they need to to complete a quest.

[Medic11]

should have been more specific.

I plan on carring firewall just don't plan on it doing crazy damage.

I also agree with the adapt and overcome theory. Everything these days seems to be a blitz from start to finish. I think changing things up a little might bring some of the fun back.

[Levonestral]

I also agree with the adapt and overcome theory. Everything these days seems to be a blitz from start to finish. I think changing things up a little might bring some of the fun back.

You would be pleasantly surprised just how much fun you can have running quests when you purposely go in with a "gimped" group (as per the commonly seen requirements) and try doing things differently than you would with the "perfect" group. It can be a blast or it can be a huge headache.....but with friends, who cares !

Then once you do that, try zerging the quest with that same "gimped" group

[Bilger]

FOr some people, Sure. But a Party leader has the right to restart a quest at any time with our without whoever he wants.

I would never start a run over because X didnt have Y spell, but I respect the rights of party leaders to do what they feel they need to to complete a quest.

I respect there right to do so but IMO they should state that in LFM and once you have accepted a certain member to said group then it is leaders fault for not asking the person or stating that is what they expect not everyone has the ideal weaps, spells, or items. If you acceot said person then it is beyond rude to reform because caster doesn't have the ideal spells. Thats where a GOOD leader or group can addapt and overcome. Just because it is not IDEAL doesn't mean have to be rude.

[Impaqt]

I respect there right to do so but IMO they should state that in LFM and once you have accepted a certain member to said group then it is leaders fault for not asking the person or stating that is what they expect not everyone has the ideal weaps, spells, or items. If you acceot said person then it is beyond rude to reform because caster doesn't have the ideal spells. Thats where a GOOD leader or group can addapt and overcome. Just because it is not IDEAL doesn't mean have to be rude.

Meh, People like that just make it easier for me to keep my "Friends" List updated.....

[Thrudh]

I respect the rights of party leaders to do what they feel they need to to complete a quest.

Yep, I also respect a party leader's rights to build a group however he/she wants....

Now, respecting the leader??? Completely different story... My "friends" list too is full of non-respected party leaders

[Arianrhod]

Things like this are such BS just because it is not the IDEAL group and a caster does not have the IDEAL spell does not mean you can't complete. It is nice if they do but if they don't adapt and overcome that is a sign of a good player. Only bad players or bad leaders need to reform the group because the caster has no firewall. It does alot of damage but have you ever seen what a max impowered acid fog with a couple of chain lightnings thrown in can do. Just think and adapt fog slows them down and damages and a chain lightning hitting them together will outdamage a firewall but like I said the blanket immunities suck and OMG most are fire immune now!!! Sorry had to rant just hate when people can't think outside the box!!

For most quests, I'd agree, but....say, for instance, you had a level 8 group trying to do Shadow Tombs (especially Shadow King). Without WoF, it could well extend the time needed to complete the quest by several hours. If the caster really wanted to stay, I'd at least try to get them to switch in the spell temporarily. In fact, I was in a group once where the leader did just that - sorc in TBF had stoneskin instead of WoF, and the leader gave them the cash to switch it out, and we all waited on him. Of course, that "run" still took 7 hours, but we didn't kick the caster...

[gamblerjoe]

I respect there right to do so but IMO they should state that in LFM and once you have accepted a certain member to said group then it is leaders fault for not asking the person or stating that is what they expect not everyone has the ideal weaps, spells, or items. If you acceot said person then it is beyond rude to reform because caster doesn't have the ideal spells. Thats where a GOOD leader or group can addapt and overcome. Just because it is not IDEAL doesn't mean have to be rude.

when i form a grp, im not going to ask casters if they have firewall or haste. im not going to ask barbs if they have power attack. im not going to ask clerics if they load heal. these are insulting questions and they will either be ignored or laughed at most of the time. either you know whats expected of you or u dont. when unforseen things happen, i will deal with them as my mood dictates.