Extreme Monk Build

[Greydeath]

But for those who are bashing this build, why??

Because it sucks - and sucks BAD

[Madhatternynja2007]

Because it sucks - and sucks BAD

Awesome arguement, I love how well you articulate your points and validate them with actually points and comments. Very well done. Congratulations....

Now to be serious, have you actually tried the build, have you seen anyone with this build?? So how can you comment on something you know nothing about. Oh, that's right you just know, "God". Look its not a perfect build, but most monks are so focused on AC that DPS suffers to ungodly amounts.

Monks have several ways to be built, most go AC with Saves. Some go Saves/AC. Some even go DPS/AC/Saves. But this one went DPS/Saves, the build itself is very gear intensive. I have mine capped and is currently working on Dragontouched Armor and Greensteel cloak. Once those are complete I have only a couple things left to get to complete him. Things that are a little hard to get quickly, like +3 tomes.

If you don't like the build or don't like monks that is fine, but if you are going to state something as fact, back it up. If it is your opinion that it sucks, cool, whatever, don't care. Your comments are not needed so don't waste time posting on a subject you know nothing about.

[Vivanto]

Why exactly is this an extreme monk, for all the tomes dumped in it? Don't get me wrong, it's an ok build, but nothing too special about it. Moderate ac, moderate dps, its an average balanced build.

Actually it even lacks the con to qualify for higher tier mountain stances which have the best damage ratio from all their strikes, as well as finishers.

[Madhatternynja2007]

Actually Vivanto this build was reworked after a bit and was never updated, I should repost the specs so that people can see what it looks like.

But the Con is an issue I worked out, with a +3 Con tome and at lvl 20 putting a last stat point into Con, you unlock the final stance for Earth. With a +3 Dex tome you unlock the 4th tier Wind stance, and if you felt especially frisky you could put a +3 Wis tome and use the Fire stance for the extra Damage, and get reasonable the same DC for Stunning Fist and Quivering Palm, which are very nice even at higher lvls.

But as for the reposting, check back in a bit, should have the build updated in original or new post in this thread, we shall see.


***EDIT***

I have updated the first post in this thread to reflect the new monk that I currently live on.

[Comfortably]

Umm having to wait for a +3tome is a horrible way of getting stances, what if you never get it? Sounds more extreme stupidity that anything else...

[Madhatternynja2007]

This is 4th tier wind/earth stances only, the other 2 I will get no matter what, however, if I don't get them then I might be able to invest points into other enhancements I neglected at an earlier time, such as Rise of the Phoenix.


Then again if people would read, they would also see that it is just a marketing scam, I used Extreme to get people to read the post....

Its just a title, get over it, seriously, look at the build and get over the name.

[Comfortably]

This is 4th tier wind/earth stances only, the other 2 I will get no matter what, however, if I don't get them then I might be able to invest points into other enhancements I neglected at an earlier time, such as Rise of the Phoenix.


Then again if people would read, they would also see that it is just a marketing scam, I used Extreme to get people to read the post....

Its just a title, get over it, seriously, look at the build and get over the name.

Look homes, I don't care what you named this gimp waste of time build. Never ever build a toon that NEEDS +3 tomes to get something as nice as that...duh?

[Vivanto]

I have updated the first post in this thread to reflect the new monk that I currently live on.

Looks a bit better, tough no CE now
Was worried about con mainly cause it should be pretty cheap for a dwarf to get it higher. Personally, other than wind, I wouldn't shoot to reach tier 4 stances without some luck, tier 3 is good enough already in most cases, so yeah a +1 or 2 tome for tier 3 and +3 for tier 4 is fine.

Imo 16 starting str for a monk is a too costly, could do 15+4level+3tome+6item = 28 still, ofcourse it just adds another grind factor, but lets you get back up int by 2, or dex by 1 for easy wind 4 stance, which is imo more important.

Tough I assume you already rolled and levelled it so nvm ^^

Umm having to wait for a +3tome is a horrible way of getting stances, what if you never get it? Sounds more extreme stupidity that anything else...

It's impossible to qualify for all stances without them. He gets all tier 3 stances which is fine already.

[Comfortably]

It's impossible to qualify for all stances without them. He gets all tier 3 stances which is fine already.

No really? Duh? But to not have air stance maxed...is just kinda sad imo...more attacks=more DPS.

[Vivanto]

No really? Duh? But to not have air stance maxed...is just kinda sad imo...more attacks=more DPS.

Agreed there, mentioned so in my previous reply with a suggestion.

[prophet1]

drop some nice green steel stuff always know u will get 2 items least one weapon , nice set of dt with inight chat or inher +1 or 2 pretty much what ever u want for dragon touched all depends how dedicated you are to get it lol , i got 4 sets pefect for what they are made , but that took good help from good players to chew for runes , his build will work i don t see the need for 2 toughness if u grab some stuff change out that cacth arrows feat even stunning fist open up some options the build , i see potential but i like how my monk plays and ac once u fighure out the base to monk ac gets easier to make higher , and question with that dex are u going blunt str or finess for hit, not basing stances used , i like to think what end result i would want for my toon later then build toward it , kinda plan backwards take early ,but change later always having the back plan to work from , if u think a builds gonna work try it don t no bigie re roll , i find with monks if u can t self juice to at least 47-48 by 7 th lvl might not work out so good later , but saying that they could be going str basted then work at ac after that , there is just so many ways to build outward and varations till the toon is lvling u can t really know , paper just gives u a idea lol but good luck if u play gal look for forprophet u got a monk ill se i got something good help u out

[Monkey_Archer]

Looks like a low ac version of my elf monk

Dwarf's advantage is high hit points... if you arent taking advantage of this you shouldnt be a dwarf.

[prophet1]

ok just for build sakes rember 18 base will let u max out that stat for any enhancements so + 3 tombs are nice but don t play toward them on a build cause u will be short for awhile , go knowing 2 and build as u go and i perfer humans for monks human versitilty is a great thing

[Comfortably]

Looks like a low ac version of my elf monk

Dwarf's advantage is high hit points... if you arent taking advantage of this you shouldnt be a dwarf.

You don't need a ton of HP if ya got AC.

[Madhatternynja2007]

Your right comf, but this build has been around before they announced that 4th tier stances were coming, so I didn't exactly plan for them, I actually just built it to try something different then the standard monks everyone always has.

Look at me, I am the same as everyone else, YAY!!!

I have no intelligence and just did what everyone else did!!!

Oh wait, I must be playing WOW!!

And how would you know anything about this build Comf, cause you read about it.....
That is it, really.

Everytime I try and join a Ravensguard group I get denied, because I am now guilded with a guild you blacklisted before I joined them. Why not take your opinion and do something worthwhile with it, like hang yourself. Are you guys so presumptuous to assume that your guild is better or even you are better, when you don't even give someone a chance to prove themselves. How would you even know if I was worth your time or not, cause you read about my build, that doesn't tell you anything about the characteristics of the player and how they deal with their toon.

[Comfortably]

Your right comf, but this build has been around before they announced that 4th tier stances were coming, so I didn't exactly plan for them, I actually just built it to try something different then the standard monks everyone always has.
I am happy that you didn't take a cookie cutter build from the forums man, it's nice to see people coming up with their own builds.

Look at me, I am the same as everyone else, YAY!!!
? I never said that.
I have no intelligence and just did what everyone else did!!!
Again, props to you for creating your own build.
Oh wait, I must be playing WOW!!
What's WOW?
And how would you know anything about this build Comf, cause you read about it.....
That is it, really.
I just posted my opinion about you wanting +3 tomes to get stances...that's all no need to get all p!ssy.
Everytime I try and join a Ravensguard group I get denied, because I am now guilded with a guild you blacklisted before I joined them. Why not take your opinion and do something worthwhile with it, like hang yourself. Are you guys so presumptuous to assume that your guild is better or even you are better, when you don't even give someone a chance to prove themselves. How would you even know if I was worth your time or not, cause you read about my build, that doesn't tell you anything about the characteristics of the player and how they deal with their toon.Where did this come from? I really didn't mean to offend you, I was just posting my concern on you needing +3 tomes to get, what in my opinion is the best stance, wind. If you'd like to send me a Pm and discuss your other comments on my guild "blacklisting" your guild, please send me a Pm so we can work this out, I don't like when people call my guild names when wha tyour posting isn't really true.

I'll respond in bolded Lime, because I kinda dissected your post a bit.

[Madhatternynja2007]

It was not my intention to sound ****y. I was trying more for sarcasm, with a hint of condescension.

Well most builds out there are only going to be able to attain two or three stances tier 4, this build is going to manage to acquire all 4 stances. It may take a bit of luck to acquire those tomes, however, most others will never acquire them all. As is my intention.

WOW, you know the great and mighty World of Warcraft.

I have to disagree that Wind stance is the be/end all of monks, I see Water stance a better choice.

For example, Wind stance you lose 16 points of HP right off the bat. You gain up to 3 points in dex which could give you up to +2 to AC. As well as +2 to your reflex saves. Oh, and the speed increase, which stacks with all others.

With Water you keep the HP, and get a +4 to all saves, but lose out on 1 point of damage. If your Wisdom is decent enough already your QP and SF become pretty good. Most people say that QP/SF are garbage, but I have to disagree. But until something is done to increase the DC a bit more, they are still mostly just situationally based. I still get off the occassionally QP in raids, SF is still my ***** though.

[GlassCannon]

...even though I see you've turned your Rep Indicator off.

I'm not fond of popularity contests

[GlassCannon]

Punchy got Moved!