Collectible and Gem Bags!

[Quarion]

Hello everyone!

The developer you may know as Zyrca has been kind enough to sit down and tell us a little about a new featured item in the game, called BAGS! Here's what she had to say:

Is your backpack overflowing with all the little random things the denizens of Stormreach have asked you for? Are you beginning to think that gems are not really shiny? When you see an executioner beetle, do you want to step on it instead of capturing it for Mantakhan? Do you have kobold prayer beads falling out of your backpack? The top minds of Stormreach have been toiling day and night to relieve adventurers of their overflowing packs of gems and collectibles.

What did Stormreach's finest minds come up with? Bags! Bags that can be put inside of backpacks! These bags have amazing organizational qualities! The Stormreach Tailors Union bring you two types of bags, one for collectibles and one for gems.

Adventurers like shiny things, and what shines more then gems? So, why are so many gems left lying on the sewer floors? No more! Gems can now be placed into gem bags and then sold to vendors in a snap by telling vendors to go ahead and take all the gems they can find in player's packs, including their new gem bags. Gem bags are available in three sizes and each back only takes up one space in your backpack!

Small:

• Can hold up to 6 types of gems in stacks of up to 1000. (i.e.: a stack of up to 1000 Bloodstones, a stack of up to 1000 Blue Quartz, etc)
• Small gem bags are given out by Old Sully and Aida. Players who have completed these quests will receive one automatically when Module 5 is released.

Medium:

• Can hold up to 12 types of gems in stacks of up to 1000.
• Players can purchase 1 medium gem bag

Large:

• Can hold up to 30 types of gems in stacks of up to 1000.
• Players will occasionally find large gem bags when they find loot

Collectors everywhere have noticed that adventures don't seem interesting in bringing them the things they want. So another type of bag is one for collectible items. These are also available in three sizes and take up only one backpack space!

Small:

• Can hold up to 12 different collectibles, in stacks of 100. (i.e.: a stack of up to 100 Amber Vials, a stack of up to 100 festival coins, a stack of up to 100 prayer beads, etc.)
• Small gem bags are given out by Old Sully and Aida. Player who have completed these quests will receive one automatically at the beginning of the module

Medium:

• Can hold up to 30 different collectibles, in stacks of 100.
• Players can purchase 1 medium collectible bag

Large:

• Can hold up to 80 different collectibles, in stacks of 100.
• Players will occasionally find large collectible bags in loot

The same tech that brings you gem and collectible bags also brings you new quest dynamics. Adventurers can put together an evil sigil, a tome, a tapestry and a shield from bits and pieces found throughout the Necropolis. When each item is complete, you will be able to use it in your questing.

The members of the Stormreach Tailors Union have retreated back to their dungeons and cellars to continue manufacture these amazing bags to meet the demands of adventurers everywhere! To see what the bags look like in action, check out the attached images below.

[emsteiner]

Before the complaints start I like the idea because I am a pack rat.

[emsteiner]

When you say tome do you mean like a +1 str tome or a book that might be useful

[Bladedge]

Any chance in the future will there will be scroll and potion cases?

[Xaaon]

Any chance in the future will there will be scroll and potion cases?

Like the infinite scroll case. How about actually giving us bags of holding, heward's handy haversack, and ESPECIALLY a quiver of ehlonna!!!!

[Boulderun]

And an Apparatus of Kwalish!

[blakbyrd]

When you say tome do you mean like a +1 str tome or a book that might be useful

Just a guess, but several more rare collectibles (the ones you only need one of to turn in for a reward) are called tomes. For example, Tome: Prophecies of Kyhber.

My guess is the reference is to that kind of tome, but who knows.

[Karethon]

Just a guess, but several more rare collectibles (the ones you only need one of to turn in for a reward) are called tomes. For example, Tome: Prophecies of Kyhber.

My guess is the reference is to that kind of tome, but who knows.

From what I have read in the Risia forums, there are 3 types of collectibles in the Orchard area: bits of tapestry, pieces of shield, and pages of tome (not sure the exact name for the items). Collecting 20 or so of these items and turning them in earns you the choice of some named items.

[Boulderun]

From what I have read in the Risia forums, there are 3 types of collectibles in the Orchard area: bits of tapestry, pieces of shield, and pages of tome (not sure the exact name for the items). Collecting 20 or so of these items and turning them in earns you the choice of some named items.

Tapestries drop from rare spawns in the orchard, 20 of them (all are identical) get you a goodie. Shield and tome pieces drop from specific chests in/after orchard-area quests; there are 8 different ones of each, two have a chance of dropping from each quest or the pre-raid. Full sets of either give you more goodies.

[txnroger]

Great job! I am definitely looking forward to using them. I would like to see bags in the future for Scales, Relics, Spell Components and missiles (arrows, bolts, etc.) I know my ranger would love that for all the arrows he has to carry around.

[Boulderun]

The Collectable bag holds scales and gianthold relics. Presumably everything that appears in the collectable section of the auction house.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

This is a great idea but I'm wondering if we can get any dev feedback on the fact the medium sized backs are horribly expensive compared to the value of items they can help you collect.

[Mad_Bombardier]

Thank you, thank you, thank you for adding a Sell Gems button!!!

On that note, can Collectors now accept collectables directly from Bags as well?

[Beherit_Baphomar]

So do the gems and collectables automatically go into yer bag? Or do you have to move um? Hopefully automatically....

I like these and I will start collecting gems and collectables now.

Awesome addition Devs, thank you.

[Hendrik]

So do the gems and collectables automatically go into yer bag? Or do you have to move um? Hopefully automatically....

I like these and I will start collecting gems and collectables now.

Awesome addition Devs, thank you.

Both. You can move them to the bag yourself OR click to have them auto added.

[Mad_Bombardier]

So do the gems and collectables automatically go into yer bag? Or do you have to move um? Hopefully automatically....

I like these and I will start collecting gems and collectables now.

Awesome addition Devs, thank you.

You still need to move them. But there is a 'Gather' button on your Bag UI that sucks it all in and stacks it.

[teddok]

Can you have all 3 bags at once. One small med and large bag all at the same time.

[Graal]

This is a great idea but I'm wondering if we can get any dev feedback on the fact the medium sized backs are horribly expensive compared to the value of items they can help you collect.

Small bags should be close to sufficient for everyday use in collecting stuff.

The medium bags are a luxury item for those that think the extra space is worth the cost or just have piles of plat laying around. They are not meant to be cost efficient.

[Wulf_Ratbane]

Small bags should be close to sufficient for everyday use in collecting stuff.

The medium bags are a luxury item for those that think the extra space is worth the cost or just have piles of plat laying around. They are not meant to be cost efficient.

I understand your reasoning.

But I don't think you'll sell many Medium gem bags. There's just no reason to do it. You'll sell a few, and then the item will go unused by the vast majority.

Honestly, the cost of the gem bag is a "stupidity tax."

I'll take the "sufficient" small bag, and wait for a Large bag to drop. (Can we put Large bags on the AH?)

I do intend to buy a M collectibles bag.

[Spookydodger]

Small bags should be close to sufficient for everyday use in collecting stuff.

The medium bags are a luxury item for those that think the extra space is worth the cost or just have piles of plat laying around. They are not meant to be cost efficient.

This is a problem with the translation of gems into money. Gems are a form of money, and as such should not receive nearly the ding to value that selling a longsword or plate-armor do. At best they should be a nearly 1-to-1 value, and at worst it should be determined by a haggle-skill starting much nearer to the original value.

If you guys are worried about money becoming too plentiful if gems were working the way they really should (ie a 10,000 gp gem selling for 10,000 gp), then make them rarer, or increase the range of gems available (a level 14 chest can give you 100gp gems or 10,000 gp gems.)

That was the biggest reason for not holding onto them. Why hold onto a 1000 gp gem when you were only going to get, on average, 100gp for it when you could sell a 15,000 gp sword for 1,500 gp.

It's still an awful lot of work for little payout. The same reason why money doesn't really fall from breakables anymore. If you're strapped for cash that much, then it's more profitable to move on than pick up everything, and if you're not strapped for cash, then there's no point what-so-ever.