Correct behavior?

[ShadowHand2]

Now, I know how fun several hotheads get when they get a chance to vent their childish mentally in real life and extend it in the game with other players might give a enormous glee too said group.....but really. I know there are players out there who since no one sees them or they amasses and surround themselves with nothing but like-mind "yes" men/women that somehow it becomes "ok" to act and behave like 2 year olds! Poking fun, belittle, being arrogant and so on might have been "cool" in grade school, but we are not in grade school. The mentally over the course of a few weeks from those who know why I write this I find it all perplexing. Perplexing in that most of this that is going on and being done to other paying players, thugs still continue to be encourages more and more.

What is it, you cannot help yourselves? You really think it is ok to go out of your way to grief players or whole guilds and for what? Your life that boring you feel the need to ruin other players game time? When I see these types of people intentionally flexing their INTERNET muscles for all its worth.....I sit back and I really do laugh at you. What sad little people it takes that in order to build your ego up other people must pay for it. Any of you INTERNET tough guys think that besides in this game that acting like you do would be tolerated if in real life others saw all you do and could call you on your BS? I know I would call you on it, but I do not let this being a game stop me from speaking up at all.

I know very well I will see posts like "grow thicker skin, stop complaining" and so on. Most would say drop group, squelch, just ignore, but leave out one MAJOR factor....everyone seems to ignore the offending thug. Why is that? Ignore the behavior and person....what you need to do.......is this this and this....LAME. Why are people afraid to address the absurd behavior and child-like ways from grown adults? Sure everyone is 10 feet tall on-line, I find that as an excuse, not a reason.
It somehow becomes their divine right treat others like they are beneath them, as if we serve them to make them look even greater as they perceive themselves in their minds. Get over yourselves if that is the case. Grow up and stop holding child-like perceive grudges so others will think your "cool"!

My only fault is I thought ignoring one of my grievers would go away by ignoring him. The policy in place does not stop harassment either as when certain people go after people you know.....then it becomes personal. It means that certain thugs feel so slighted since they cannot get to you who ignores them they go out of their way to go after you in other ways. How weak-minded are you? Do I need to name names, nope, he knows who I am talking about.

To narrow it down, it was related to me that 2 guildies I know was in a certain quest/raid. The whole time hearing little pokes here and there about what I had called said person days ago. Well not that I said it but alluded to the subject, which he got wrong, but that is another matter. In a certain part of quest/raid when heals are normally done with spot heals AND mass cures.......2 certain guildes noticed ZERO heals or cures being done to them. The clerics targeted only pure heals and made sure not even a mass cure went off in case 2 guildies "might" get cured. They both assuming since they were doing their duties in quest/raid as was everyone else or so they thought....died. Not only that, they were the ONLY 2 to die in that part. They checked their combat logs and sure enough not one heal or mass cure was extended their way.

What does it mean? Means certain thugs are allowed to get others in on their venting enough to ruin others game. I feel sad for the players who, if this is true, you allowed them to grief on other players. For what, because it is clever and it is "cool" Yeah, your "cool" alright!

I will not be responding to this post, there is no need for me either to respond as some are on my ignore list anyways.

[JoeyJoJoJr]

why can't we all just get along?

[BlackSteel]

you're not the only one who goes out of their way to ignore a particular player

me, and I can count probably between a dozen to two dozen other regular players that feel the same way about an individual, and will not join any PuG with that person in it.

I think he's lucky that he has a large n supportive enough guild to fill for most of the content.

the only thing I can say is that if greiving is being extended by his friends and guild mates on his behalf, then perhaps you should expand your ignore/do not party list to include them as well. I know Puggers cant be too picky, but the game isnt in that dire straights; you can still afford to not run any content with a certain guild, or subset within that guild.

[Altarboy]

Grow a thicker skin, stop complaining, use the ignore feature....

[feynman]

Lol, yes, come to the forums to complain about childish behavior; that's like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500.

[NXPlasmid]

Honestly, what do you expect to accomplish here? Everyone likes to vent so hopefully you feel better now that you have, but no one is forcing you or your "other guildies" to group with these "bad people". Start a list of the toons you know you don't want to group with, then when you think about joining a given group look at your list, if you see one of those names, don't join. You can even suggest this rather useful idea to your guild. Then you'll get even with those "bad people" because they won't be able to "not heal you". See you WIN.

*gets lawn chair and long thin stick, places hotdog on stick and puts bag of marshmallows on ground beside chair*

[Lady_Draconus]

Honestly, what do you expect to accomplish here? Everyone likes to vent so hopefully you feel better now that you have, but no one is forcing you or your "other guildies" to group with these "bad people". Start a list of the toons you know you don't want to group with, then when you think about joining a given group look at your list, if you see one of those names, don't join. You can even suggest this rather useful idea to your guild. Then you'll get even with those "bad people" because they won't be able to "not heal you". See you WIN.

*gets lawn chair and long thin stick, places hotdog on stick and puts bag of marshmallows on ground beside chair*

Why not have turbine devs add a @squelch player account. So that it includes not just the offending toon but all that persons toons. Would this not assist in solving the problem? So if you squelch toon B toons A,C,D ect are automatically squelched including any new toons made on that account. They managed to do it for Asherons call why not do it for DDO.

[Strakeln]

Why not have turbine devs add a @squelch player account. So that it includes not just the offending toon but all that persons toons. Would this not assist in solving the problem? So if you squelch toon B toons A,C,D ect are automatically squelched including any new toons made on that account. They managed to do it for Asherons call why not do it for DDO.

Pretty sure it already works that way (not sure, only people I've squelched were unsquelched once I was out of the party and no longer subjected to their prattle).

[Thornfeld]

So you made a comment about someone in a group and they apparently took offense. So your guildies get punished for you not handling the situation better a few days ago.
Sometimes your better off not responding or adding fuel to a fire so situation's don't get blown way up more than it needs to be. Not excusing whoever your talking about. But as a member of any guild you represent that guild no matter what you do.

[Boldrin]

Just so you know , that was my raid, and I didn't poke or jab anything, nor did I notice a lack of mass heals, I saw mass cures going off. I definitely didn't tell any clerics not to heal you thats for sure.. I have no clue who Shadowhand 2 is in game, but Quanefel I have never had a problem with. I don't agree with all of what he says, but I don't exclude him from my groups(we even had the same passion for plat farmer eradication... which has now become a reality). You have one guildie I will not play with, I don't know if he has given your guild a bad name or what, but he has caused me grief in raids and I choose not to play with him. I will say calling people internet bullies for not playing with you is childish. So of course we're gonna joke around about a term like that. It's a game, and people play games with people that add entertainment to the game for them.

[BlackSteel]

oh hush, of course people cant stay mad at boldrin

[Gornn]

Grow a thicker skin, stop complaining, use the ignore feature....

Why can I read this!? I dropped you in ignore?!

heh

[Altarboy]

Why can I read this!? I dropped you in ignore?!

heh

New raid loot I can't be ignored!

[babygirl]

New raid loot I can't be ignored!

Yea you can...I have become immune to ignoring you...remember those invites the other day LOL

[Gornn]

New raid loot I can't be ignored!

omg. if that raid loot is dropping...well.

man. that sucks.

[Mithran]

I don't know of anyone who won't group with me, and there's no one with whom I won't group. My Squelch List is rather lengthy, but it has no bearing on who I will and will not group with. Even when a certain Cleric was being blacklisted, I was willing to group with him. I have taken issue with certain individuals over Voice Chat for their treatment of other members of a pug raid, regardless of whether they are the leader or not.

While there are certainly memorable exceptions, the players here normally behave as adults and treat other people as adults. It's really one of the best parts of the game. The psychological dynamic the OP cites is a very real and troubling vector in social interactions, but its instances are (as I've indicated) rather limited.

Coming to Forums to say your piece is one thing, but treating everyone who reads Forums to a public puke to which you will no longer respond does not speak well to your own level of maturity, and Boldrin has done a good job of limiting his dispute.

Often in these situations, misunderstandings can have their conclusions and emotional investments blown out of proportion. It's often a good idea to step back, avoid the players in question, and try to put it behind you.

Kudos to Elite Raiders for their clear illustration of how this can be done.

[Altarboy]

I don't know of anyone who won't group with me, and there's no one with whom I won't group. My Squelch List is rather lengthy, but it has no bearing on who I will and will not group with. Even when a certain Cleric was being blacklisted, I was willing to group with him. I have taken issue with certain individuals over Voice Chat for their treatment of other members of a pug raid, regardless of whether they are the leader or not.

While there are certainly memorable exceptions, the players here normally behave as adults and treat other people as adults. It's really one of the best parts of the game. The psychological dynamic the OP cites is a very real and troubling vector in social interactions, but its instances are (as I've indicated) rather limited.

Coming to Forums to say your piece is one thing, but treating everyone who reads Forums to a public puke to which you will no longer respond does not speak well to your own level of maturity, and Boldrin has done a good job of limiting his dispute.

Often in these situations, misunderstandings can have their conclusions and emotional investments blown out of proportion. It's often a good idea to step back, avoid the players in question, and try to put it behind you.

Kudos to Elite Raiders for their clear illustration of how this can be done.

I was gonna say something witty about your amateur psychology attempt...
but I'm fat and lazy...
please insult yourself and attribute it to me

[Mithran]

I was gonna say something witty about your amateur psychology attempt...
but I'm fat and lazy...
please insult yourself and attribute it to me

Amateur?!

[NXPlasmid]

I will not be responding to this post, there is no need for me either to respond as some are on my ignore list anyways.

Was this in the original post? I don't remember seeing it, but perhaps I didn't read the whole thing... however, it would be nice if Shaddowhand2 would put his/her characters in the signature so we at least know who it is. Seems if you are willing to post this kind of stuff, you should be willing to take ownership of it too.

[BlackSteel]

he didnt mention names tho, so unless you recognize his tale in particular it should be a non-issue. Otherwise we're all free to draw conclusions to who it is on our own