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    Default We don't need STWF

    For all of you screaming for the STWF feat - YOU ALREADY HAVE IT!!!!

    First of all, there is no STWF feat in PnP per se. The closest thing to STWF is the epic feat Perfect TWF.

    http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Per...eapon_Fighting
    Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting [Epic]
    PrerequisitesDex 25, Greater Two-Weapon Fighting, Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, Two-Weapon Fighting.

    BenefitThe character can make as many attacks with his or her off-hand weapon as with his or her primary weapon, using the same base attack bonus. The character still takes the normal penalties for fighting with two weapons.

    NormalWithout this feat, a character can only get a single attack with an off-hand weapon (or two attacks with an off-hand weapon if he or she has Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, or three attacks with an off-hand weapon if he or she has Greater Two-Weapon Fighting).
    Let's look at the DDO attack sequence (proposed STWF in yellow):
    http://ddo.enterwiki.net/page/Combo_chain
    Code:
    Table: Attack bonuses for two-weapon fighting  
    BAB  1st      2nd       3rd     4th     5th 
    10  +8       +8/+8    +13/+13  +18  
    11  +9/+9    +9/+9    +14/+14  +19/+19  -  
    12  +10/+10  +10/+10  +15/+15  +20/+20  -  
    13  +11/+11  +11/+11  +16/+16  +21/+21  -  
    14  +12/+12  +12/+12  +17/+17  +22/+22  -  
    15  +13/+13  +13/+13  +18/+18  +23/+23  +23/+23/+23  
    16  +14/+14  +14/+14  +19/+19  +24/+24  +24/+24/+24
    Technically, we get the equivalent of PTWF with GTWF at level11. That's 10 levels sooner than we should have it! If they implement STWF as shown above, then we are getting a feat that would be even better than the epic feat! If turbine decides to give us a 6th attack animation, then STWF can be implemented to give an extra attack on that last animation. However, until they do, when you start complaining about the lack of STWF, quit your whining, you already have it.

    Why does anyone feel that a feat that is beyond an epic feat is necessary for TWF? Especially considering how far behind THF and S&B are. Are there any THF or S&B epic feats we can have? If so, then give it to us, along with one more above it.

    oh, and btw - my mage hasn't had any boost to his dps spells in a long while. Please add some more of those too.
    Last edited by krud; 01-28-2009 at 11:09 AM.
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