Upcoming Minos Legens Fix.

[Desteria]

Guys/Gals,
Stop playing his game. He is not satisfied no matter how you word it. He is right in his mind and there is no changing it.

ya but it passes borring night shifts at work

[Desteria]

this is bordering on the dumbest arguement i have ever witnessed

i think, maybe, this thread beats out this one.

There is a very distinct possibility, that we have a 1 person, 2 accounts situation. I guess twins are not out of the question either.

touche sir but its very close!
i think eel may be on to something with the twins thing......

Ahhahahahhaha

It's a close match....

[Desteria]

Ok This whole thread and arguement is moot, trying to have an intellectual debate with someone who has the aggregate IQ of a pithed hamster is futile at best.

AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA A pithed hamster hahahaha......, never done hamster but had to do that to a frog in bio at one point....

[Desteria]

Any way you look at it, I'm losing something,

OR you could look at it as your gaining not loseign any thing but being given a GOOD reason, to dump a usless feat, (MT), and get some more BADLY needed HP by taking toughness feat, to actuly start you on the path towards beign a TOUGH kiting-AoE sorc.

And since you kepe saying your build is soo strong IF your build is SO strong why did it get shelved OH ya because in your own words it sucked, IF it sucked then it was NOT an optimized build obviusly!!!!! and it was a known bug long before they added the drow toughness AP's, so when you decieded that some how 20 hp was the diference betwenen uber suclitude and a TOUGH kiting -AoE sorc, it was a BUG at that pointin time and it was annoced as such, by the devs.

[Desteria]

That's not true... the Rage spell should work exactly like madstone does. The rage spell is supposed to work exactly like Barbarian rage except no fatige at the end.

From the SRD:

Rage
Enchantment (Compulsion) [Mind-Affecting]
Level: Brd 2, Sor/Wiz 3
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Targets: One willing living creature per three levels, no two of which may be more than 30 ft. apart
Duration: Concentration + 1 round/level (D)
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: Yes

Each affected creature gains a +2 morale bonus to Strength and Constitution, a +1 morale bonus on Will saves, and a -2 penalty to AC. The effect is otherwise identical with a barbarian’s rage except that the subjects aren’t fatigued at the end of the rage.

hum I'm remberign somethign wrong then.. or it was a 3.0 to 3.5 change though it may just be falty memory... any i give you points your right it should stop casting if they ever fix it to do so all i ask is they ad da option box for rage does not target me Beacsue DDO dose not let us pick targets liek in PnP.....
untill then i'll take my free 16 hp

[Desteria]

WOOOHOOO WALL of posts I almost made a full page with out any oen else in there !!!!!!

[PhoenixFire31]

WOOOHOOO WALL of posts I almost made a full page with out any oen else in there !!!!!!

This thread is long past needing a good derailing...sooooo...


/runs around in her bikini starting a tequila filled water gun fight!

/shoots Yaga with her gun first.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

This thread is long past needing a good derailing...sooooo...


/runs around in her bikini starting a tequila filled water gun fight!

/shoots Yaga with her gun first.

Excellent technique, but it would be more effective with pictures of you in the bikini

[Desteria]

This thread is long past needing a good derailing...sooooo...


/runs around in her bikini starting a tequila filled water gun fight!

/shoots Yaga with her gun first.

Excellent technique, but it would be more effective with pictures of you in the bikini

mmm DE in bikinie with a alcohal filled water gun mmmmm I think thats got to go well up on that top 10 DnD geek fantisies board.......

[feynman]

WOOOHOOO WALL of posts I almost made a full page with out any oen else in there !!!!!!

Welcome to the ignore list.

[Dracolich]

Welcome to the ignore list.

Funny you should say that

[Hendrik]

Excellent technique, but it would be more effective with pictures of you in the bikini

/signed

[Desteria]

Welcome to the ignore list.

the bets part is i was just catching up on my 2 days off of work sicne i do most of my board readign at work, not my falt if there was a lot to replie to in that time, and very few other peopel posting at 1-5am PST.


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Dont quote this part... considerign I've basicaly been callign the guy a nub for 22 pages I'm darn suprised it took this long

[Hendrik]

That's interesting, I've never heard of a shroud crafting bug. What's the issue?

User Error.

[Desteria]

No, several people have come in, noticed the problem and suggested fixes, but the cheerleaders can't stand anyone criticizing the devs unless it's they're characters being nerfed. 20 pages of vitriol and self-righteous abuse later, the rational people who are unaffected by the change are long gone, and it's just the people affected and the dev pets on display.

Not a dev pet, Still here, Have been very rational, and I AM effected buy it, my pally will lose the option to get kopeshes at level 18, and untill then will lose Extend spell wich hurts a LOT with all the SHORT buffs pallys need to kepe up to actuyl do there sweet ass DPS.

Of course you cant see this but other can and i enjoy killign time at work.

**EDIT** Sweet I managed a ninja TO woohoo.

[feynman]

You didn't cheat. Devs didn't cheat. Nobody cheated. It was a simple bug, everyone knew about it, always, and now it is being changed. Live with it, or don't, it's your call.

Oh, I'll live with it; or rather, this character will sit in meridia doing nothing 2 out of every 3 days. That is not my idea of what happens to a good character, but now I have to level up another character, and pray to Khyber that the devs don't chea- er, nerf again.

If you built around this bug, it's your own fault. I'm sorry, I'm usually sympathetic, but this is beyond absurd. You're treating this as though this were some pen and paper rule that turbine's arbitrarily changing. It's not. It's a game bug that has been discussed the day someone noticed the bug. Again, enough already. If you "built" a character around it, again, it's your own fault. Enough yapping.

Here we go again: Somehow it's my fault that the devs are changing the rules. I'm not even asking for fairness here; that would require giving me two weeks of my life back, which, short of receiving Gelatinous Cube in the mail for some Q & A sessions with a rubber hose, isn't going to happen.

No, several people have come in, noticed the problem and suggested fixes, but the cheerleaders can't stand anyone criticizing the devs unless it's they're characters being nerfed. 20 pages of vitriol and self-righteous abuse later, the rational people who are unaffected by the change are long gone, and it's just the people affected and the dev pets on display.

So they spam, and insult, and derail the thread, but I'm the one who catches **** from the mods, and no one is responding to one of my original questions: Why is their "fix" out of proportion to the "bug"?

[Desteria]

and no one is responding to one of my original questions: Why is their "fix" out of proportion to the "bug"?

Actruly i belive it was answere about 54896319651 billion times In that it is infact NOT out of porportion at all.

[Yaga_Nub]

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Dont quote this part... considerign I've basicaly been callign the guy a nub for 22 pages I'm darn suprised it took this long

Hey watch it now!

[Hendrik]

Oh, I'll live with it; or rather, this character will sit in meridia doing nothing 2 out of every 3 days. That is not my idea of what happens to a good character, but now I have to level up another character, and pray to Khyber that the devs don't chea- er, nerf again.




Here we go again: Somehow it's my fault that the devs are changing the rules. I'm not even asking for fairness here; that would require giving me two weeks of my life back, which, short of receiving Gelatinous Cube in the mail for some Q & A sessions with a rubber hose, isn't going to happen.

No, several people have come in, noticed the problem and suggested fixes, but the cheerleaders can't stand anyone criticizing the devs unless it's they're characters being nerfed. 20 pages of vitriol and self-righteous abuse later, the rational people who are unaffected by the change are long gone, and it's just the people affected and the dev pets on display.

So they spam, and insult, and derail the thread, but I'm the one who catches **** from the mods, and no one is responding to one of my original questions: Why is their "fix" out of proportion to the "bug"?

1. What rule is changing? Minos was NEVER supposed to give you access to Enhancements like it did when released. You have been told that time and again, not only by the Community, but by the DEV's themselves.

2. The ONLY fix is to make Minos behave as it was intended to work. Just like every other item that grants temporary feats.

3. Your original Question has been answered numerous times by numerous people. I would dare guess that those answers are not what you wish to hear to support your claim of 'cheating devs' so they are ignored. Stop being so intentionally obtuse, it is doing more harm the good to your 'cause'.

4. Stop playing the victim, it does not suit you well and does not help your effort to pursue a change to Minos other then what the DEVs want for it.

Again, I wish you best of luck in your Adventures in Stormreach, from your new sig, reads as if they are numbered. If you go to the Off-Topic thread, I am sure you can find some advice on finding something new - just be aware, bugs exist no matter where you find yourself.

Safe travels.

[PhoenixFire31]

1. What rule is changing? Minos was NEVER supposed to give you access to Enhancements like it did when released. You have been told that time and again, not only by the Community, but by the DEV's themselves.

2. The ONLY fix is to make Minos behave as it was intended to work. Just like every other item that grants temporary feats.

3. Your original Question has been answered numerous times by numerous people. I would dare guess that those answers are not what you wish to hear to support your claim of 'cheating devs' so they are ignored. Stop being so intentionally obtuse, it is doing more harm the good to your 'cause'.

4. Stop playing the victim, it does not suit you well and does not help your effort to pursue a change to Minos other then what the DEVs want for it.

Again, I wish you best of luck in your Adventures in Stormreach, from your new sig, reads as if they are numbered. If you go to the Off-Topic thread, I am sure you can find some advice on finding something new - just be aware, bugs exist no matter where you find yourself.

Safe travels.

Hen if you keep talking to him I can't derail the thread! STOP IT!
Don't force me to put clothes back on...

/shoots Hen in the face and frolics away...