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    Default Dwarven Capstone (Proposed)

    Supreme Armor Mastery.

    All armor is treated as one level lighter than its current type. For example Heavy, is medium, medium is light.

    Dwarves receive an additional stacking +1 max dex to shields and armor.
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    Racial Capstones?

    Didn't even think these were in the works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esoitl View Post
    Racial Capstones?

    Didn't even think these were in the works.
    They're not. But, no reason not to let him propose his idea.

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    Default Huh?

    Racial capstones don't make much sense...

    Besides I am pretty sure I am going to splash 1 Drow on my Dwarf to get +1 to damage with rapiers...

    That is why we don't need racial capstones, what are you capping exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EinarMal View Post
    Racial capstones don't make much sense...

    Besides I am pretty sure I am going to splash 1 Drow on my Dwarf to get +1 to damage with rapiers...

    That is why we don't need racial capstones, what are you capping exactly?
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    Default Splash of Human

    And don't forget those extra skill points!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turren View Post
    You got it wrong man! Always take human at first level for the extra feat!
    Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by esoitl View Post
    Racial Capstones?

    Didn't even think these were in the works.
    At the present they're not, but it's an interesting idea.

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    Wouldn't this just be a ML 20 racial enhancement? You don't have to call it a capstone enhancement to have it at level 20, and have a nice ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    At the present they're not, but it's an interesting idea.
    Know what else is an interesting idea? Letting Rogues take a bonus feat instead of a special ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    At the present they're not, but it's an interesting idea.
    I wouldn't call them "capstones" though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borror0 View Post
    I wouldn't call them "capstones" though.
    I actually wasn't planning on having racial capstones, though level 20 non-capstone enhancements certainly exist. (Elven Arcane Archer V or Cleric/Paladin Divine Might IV, for instance.)

    If an enhancement is a capstone, it can be a bit more powerful as they're exclusive.

    I'm not saying there will be any in the immediate future, or that they'll be like the suggestion, but I found the idea interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    I'm not saying there will be any in the immediate future, or that they'll be like the suggestion, but I found the idea interesting.
    Awesome! Thanks for the reply and meta-feedback! It's nice to hear when submitted ideas start that little hamster in your head running some. (maybe we can come up with more that you like)
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    Eladrin since we know you are watching this thread why not make a official announcement on the w/p debacle and end all this back and forth between the sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    If an enhancement is a capstone, it can be a bit more powerful as they're exclusive.
    This would mean racial capstone would be exclusive between themselves (ie you can only pick one of these two capstones) or between class and racial capstone?

    Oh, and by the way, assuming we one get epic levels, would capstone be a reward for staying pure beyond level 20 or a reward for reaching level 20 of a certain class?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    I'm not saying there will be any in the immediate future, or that they'll be like the suggestion, but I found the idea interesting.

    Thank you Eladrin, I feel a little bit of vindication with this statement. If a discussion pops up on this, Iwill definately try to come up with some good balanced suggestions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    <cut>I'm not saying there will be any {racial capstones} in the immediate future, or that they'll be like the suggestion, but I found the idea interesting.
    Just make sure racial capstones are only available to pure races. Players already get enough benefit from having a splash of elf here, or a dash of halfling there.

    If I stick to pure dwarf, I'd be ****ed to see some jerk with a Dwarf 17 / Elf 3 build get to have the capstone too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    At the present they're not, but it's an interesting idea.
    Now why you gonna come in here and stir up the antpile?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    At the present they're not, but it's an interesting idea.
    no. you cant mc a race. a racial capstone is redundant and silly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzly Bear View Post
    no. you cant mc a race. a racial capstone is redundant and silly
    I think the point of racial capstones is not as a reward for staying "pure race" not that it's impossible not to, but it's to accentuate the difference between the races, and give a bonus to level 20. The problem with this is it only gives a bonus to one kind of dwarf character, which is bad for any other kind of character. One solution to keep this or something like, is to provide multiple different racial capstones. Such as for dwarves on to give better axe damage for dps, or more hp for anyone, something along the lines of dwarven faith for pallies/clerics, etc.
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