lets talk about rage

[underlordone]

Ok here it gose all of my alts are self healing built for soloing and have a good ac

Now with my new alt a pal trying to do the best with his ac since never played one before. His ac at 11 is 45. Soloing alot of quest get's me the idea on how to play him and what I can and can't do. So I have done some test and to my surprise what every one has been saying is wrong. Now I only did this test with a bark pot not the rage pot since my game is messed up and taken it down tonight to fix.

At -3 to ac one more then rage I got hit alot more then with the +3 this was done on quest of my lvl of 11 n-h-e. Now out in the desert had np doing any quest on norm or hard. Rateing the amount of hits with and with out the bark pot. I pritty much am queen ready now with this testing. Done a few side quest to and same thing.

Lets go to lvl 16. Now my rangers have a ac of 55-62 depending on stance and what i am fighting. The subtrane we will use for this. To get the rage neg to ac I used a bark pot agine but this time I was same as rage - 2. I got hit a whole lot more I could not belive that I was realy getting hit more with 2 lower ac.

Now I could say the rage was buged on the neg to ac but useing a bark pot kinda takes that one out. None of my guys are useing any thing that would blur a hit. It's stright ac. Now eather we get buged when we are a few points lower then our max ac. Or what I have been saying is true It dose matter.

Plz before you start to try and rip this post I did the time to find out.

You all know me as a good player who try"s to do his best to have fun and help others wile keeping myself maxed out. Take a sec and see for yourself. Maybe I am lucky and they rolled low to hit me. I am taken game down off my pc to remove any other programs that I use wile playing since the red color of rage gives me the prob. For those who did not know my whole screen gose read leaveing nothing of the game showing. Leaveing me not knowing what the heck is going on. Just turn your monitor off to see what I am talken about wile in game.

[Wizzly_Bear]

barkskin provides a natural armor bonus

rage does not affect natural armor

you get both listed under different effects

[Jendrak]

barkskin provides a natural armor bonus

rage does not affect natural armor

you get both listed under different effects

While this is true i dont think its what to OP was talking about. Say you have a 55 ac and you rage with 3 of the power rage enhancments the total neg to ac you would take is 5. So 55-5=50ac. Now he used a barkskin pot to offset that loss. 50+3=53ac. Only 2 below what he started with. What he (or me for that matter) cant belive is that with only 2 ac less you seem to get hit twice as often. Is 2 ac really that **** important or is there something wrong that nobody notices?

[drac317]

While this is true i dont think its what to OP was talking about. Say you have a 55 ac and you rage with 3 of the power rage enhancments the total neg to ac you would take is 5. So 55-5=50ac. Now he used a barkskin pot to offset that loss. 50+3=53ac. Only 2 below what he started with. What he (or me for that matter) cant belive is that with only 2 ac less you seem to get hit twice as often. Is 2 ac really that **** important or is there something wrong that nobody notices?

he didnt say anything about being a barb.just that he used potted wood instead of casting it to simulate the -2 he would get from a rage spell. but what can u expect from a jarhead.

[Desteria]

WEll it all depends on your AC and the stuff your fighting that -2 could seam liek a HUGGE amount in the right situation lets look at a few made up situations...

OK your ac is not extream but not to good mobs are hitting you when they roll a 6 or better you get hit 75% of the time, you rage mobes now hit you on a 4 + you are now gettign hit 85% of the time probably not a very noticable situation, as it is onyl a small incresase in hit % ruffly 13%...

Now lets look at a HIGH but not EXTREAM ac build mobs have serious problems hititng you they only hit you on a 19+ so they hit you 10% of the time, now you get rage and they hit you on a 18+ or 20% of the time they now hit you TWICE AS often thats going to be noticabel if what your trakign is how often then hit you...

For an Extream aC build they cna only hit you on a 24+ sicne they cant roll a 24 they only hit on a nat 20, take a rage they still need 22 to hit you ie still a nat 20 needed, end result you see ZERO incease in numebr of hits

Last case the LOW ac build they are hititng you on a 2+ you get rage they still hit you on a 2+ you get pounded like a cheap ***** but with no increase in how often you get hit....

SO how much diference does that 2 ac make well it's allways 10% higher chance to hit except at the 2 far extreams, BUT 10% geter chace to hit can mean any where from a 12% increase in hit rate to 300% increase in hit rate one end will eb barly noticable though you are still only taking 2 more hits per 20 swings, at the other end it;s the same 2 more hits out of 20 swings but your getitng hit 3 times as often that woudl be REALLLY noticable....

SO in the end it all depends exacly where your AC falls compared to what your fightign tohit bonus are for how noticable a 2 point ac lose will be.

[Desteria]

P.S. now i have that song sort stuck in my head...

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