New record of Elite Abbot run

[Filipinomaids]

3 days ago,we Fairy Tale made a record which finish Elite Abbot in 8 mins.

Today,we make a new record,which finish Elite Abbot in 7 mins.

ScreenShot:
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and this time,we only have 11 ppl in group..

VIVA Fairy Tale



----by Christiany

[Quanefel]

Congrats,how did you all do that on elite in 7 minutes staying within the rules how it was designed to be beat? I do not know, that is why I ask.

[500520]

Congrats,how did you all do that on elite in 7 minutes staying within the rules how it was designed to be beat? I do not know, that is why I ask.

APPX 30 seconds till port to puzzles
5 Minutes till Abbott Goes back to Platform
90 Seconds to Kill Him

Takes High DPS

[lishufeng86]

Congrats,how did you all do that on elite in 7 minutes staying within the rules how it was designed to be beat? I do not know, that is why I ask.

20-25sec kill to port
6minits do puzzles(must 6 minits)
60-80secs kill abbott(must have good dpser,have a bard is better )
my english really poor,
500520 help me explan

[Strakeln]

Congrats,how did you all do that on elite in 7 minutes staying within the rules how it was designed to be beat? I do not know, that is why I ask.

Give it a break, Q. You're starting to sound like a broken record.

The above quoted text is a classic trolling post and you know it.

Gratz, FT, impressive regardless of method.

[Wizzly_Bear]

Give it a break, Q. You're starting to sound like a broken record.

The above quoted text is a classic trolling post and you know it.

Gratz, FT, impressive regardless of method.

qft

[alchilito]

Give it a break, Q. You're starting to sound like a broken record.

The above quoted text is a classic trolling post and you know it.

Gratz, FT, impressive regardless of method.

You sir are agreeing to congratulating someone on beating a BROKEN raid that NO ONE can confirm succesfully completing as designed by the devs. So stop sending kudos where they are not deserved.


OP I have asked you MULTIPLE times if you can confirm consistent completion in asteroids without using CHEESE and you have not delivered.


So no, not impressed, nothing special here, move along now.

[Wizzly_Bear]

OP I have asked you MULTIPLE times if you can confirm consistent completion in asteroids without using CHEESE and you have not delivered.

i think everyone knows the answer to that question. however, until the devs fix it (if they ever do)....what does it matter?

[Strakeln]

You sir are agreeing to congratulating someone on beating a BROKEN raid that NO ONE can confirm succesfully completing as designed by the devs. So stop sending kudos where they are not deserved.

I'll send kudos wherever I **** well please, thank you very much.

The raid is a challenge to beat with or without "alternative strategies". While I do agree the raid is "broken", that is an issue for me to take up with Turbine, not with players who are working with what they've been given.

[500520]

20-25sec kill to port
6minits do puzzles(must 6 minits)
60-80secs kill abbott(must have good dpser,have a bard is better )
my english really poor,
500520 help me explan

xiao bai... i must help you do everything!!

[Quanefel]

You sir are agreeing to congratulating someone on beating a BROKEN raid that NO ONE can confirm succesfully completing as designed by the devs. So stop sending kudos where they are not deserved.


OP I have asked you MULTIPLE times if you can confirm consistent completion in asteroids without using CHEESE and you have not delivered.


So no, not impressed, nothing special here, move along now.

You have to understand the person you are responding to. He is of the mind that even if a person using "other methods" to win at something, that is enough for everyone else to congratulate that person for their hollow victory. Because as we all know, someone typing in God mode in a video game shows the uberest of skills. Praise should be showered on those bragging about a hollow victory, we do that in everyday life...don't we?

[500520]

You have to understand the person you are responding to. He is of the mind that even if a person using "other methods" to win at something, that is enough for everyone else to congratulate that person for their hollow victory. Because as we all know, someone typing in God mode in a video game shows the uberest of skills. Praise should be showered on those bragging about a hollow victory, we do that in everyday life...don't we?

So if the abbott is so easy even with these tactics you refer to why do so few beat it? And why havent you?

[Quanefel]

So if the abbott is so easy even with these tactics you refer to why do so few beat it? And why havent you?

If so few beat it indicates that it is probably a broke raid, hence the lack of people openly bragging about beating it "fairly". Me or anyone else beating it to prove it is broke or can not be done honestly is false if it was already proved broken by countless other players before. It is rather redundant to prove something is broke that was already proved broke before.

The whole point of any acheivement is to show others a skill or goal accomplished within the rules or mechanism allowed. To step outside those rules to express a false achievemtent is a hollow victory to say the least. Those type of things are best left unsaid. Not openly bragging about it.

If a person beats something honestly, good on them. If they beat it dishonestly then people reserve the right to not pat them on the back or praise them for it. If you want to praise someone who did something dishonestly to abtain a victory, that is for you to do. It does not mean everyone else has to follow suit.

[bobbryan2]

If so few beat it indicates that it is probably a broke raid, hence the lack of people openly bragging about beating it "fairly". Me or anyone else beating it to prove it is broke or can not be done honestly is false if it was already proved broken by countless other players before. It is rather redundant to prove something is broke that was already proved broke before.

The whole point of any acheivement is to show others a skill or goal accomplished within the rules or mechanism allowed. To step outside those rules to express a false achievemtent is a hollow victory to say the least. Those type of things are best left unsaid. Not openly bragging about it.

If a person beats something honestly, good on them. If they beat it dishonestly then people reserve the right to not pat them on the back or praise them for it. If you want to praise someone who did something dishonestly to abtain a victory, that is for you to do. It does not mean everyone else has to follow suit.

Blah blah blah.

[Strakeln]

You have to understand the person you are responding to.

Yes, listen to Quanefel, because he knows me so well

He is of the mind that even if a person using "other methods" to win at something, that is enough for everyone else to congratulate that person for their hollow victory.

Oh lookie! Q is putting words in my mouth again and presenting it as his argument! Funny, I don't recall saying anything about what others should think of the accomplishment.

You're just mad because you were caught red-handed with a textbook troll.

Again.

[deadkitty]

8====D Envy?

[Filipinomaids]

Q...I have to say,u r a funny guy,yes,I am sure

a great writer(Lu xun) had wroten a story,it is about a man,who can't do something and always laughing at others.who can't do something and always pretend to be able to done it.

Coincidentally, the man named A Q in that book.

[Quanefel]

Q...I have to say,u r a funny guy,yes,I am sure

a great writer(Lu xun) had wroten a story,it is about a man,who can't do something and always laughing at others.who can't do something and always pretend to be able to done it.

Coincidentally, the man named A Q in that book.

1. I am not laughing nor do I find this topic humorous.

2. This topic is not about me nor what I can or can not do.

3. I am not pretending to have done the Abbot raid nor am I suggesting I can't do it.

4. Any person(s) cheating or using exploits to win at something is wise to not openly brag about their actions. Or "fluff their feathers" if the case may be.

5. An honest man's accomplishment is worthy of praise but the accomplishments of a cheater/exploiter is not as well received as they think it is. So all praises goes to those actually worthy of them. Good job to you, your guild or friends if things were done as the Dev's intended that raid to be.

[Falchion123]

Grats to FT for the achievement.

To Quanefel, show us you can beat the abbott in less than, say, 15mins and I may respect you more. I know, you will say, that's not the point. But the point is anyone who can beat Abbott on elite, exploit or not, is already an achievement. Nuff said.

[Quanefel]

Grats to FT for the achievement.

To Quanefel, show us you can beat the abbott in less than, say, 15mins and I may respect you more. I know, you will say, that's not the point. But the point is anyone who can beat Abbott on elite, exploit or not, is already an achievement. Nuff said.

It is not up to me to show or prove anything. Exraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I did not make the claim I beat it on elite in 7 minutes, as such I am not responsible for proving a claim made by someone else.

You are further incorrect in the belief that if an exploit was used to accomplish something it is still an achievement. Anyone can cheat, not everyone can do things as they were intended to be done. Anyone who accomplishes something as intended are the ones worthy of praise, not showering praise to those unworthy of it.

As far as any cheating a player may do, it does not matter if you think it is right or I think it is wrong. A rule is a rule, no exceptions for anyone because their personal beliefs on the subject. There is no clause in the rules that give exceptions for a person based off their nationality, language spoken, popularity, or anything of the sort. To do so would open the door for abuse of the rule, giving one player a free pass over other players. Hence, why the rule covers all players equally. No exceptions.