Haggle Bard - Mississippi Queen

**LeslieWest_GuitarGod** · 08-15-2010, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by NaturalHazard

correct me if im wrong but dont bard spells only go up to level 6? whats he on about level 9 spells here?

Correct. I think Party might be one of those that wears his socks inside-out on purpose. Disregard

**LeslieWest_GuitarGod** · 08-15-2010, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by Veriss

Wish the mods would (could?) sticky this and similar threads. Anyway, shameless bump.

Veriss

Thank you Veriss. Side note, you can subscribe to the thread so when it updates it pops up in your control panel. What I do is simply come to the bard thread and sort by VIEW. As of this date, it sits on top of the list, thanks mainly to many in the bard community over the last few years.

**NaturalHazard** · 08-15-2010, 03:52 AM

Hey thanks for the build by the way am running one atm level 8 now close to level 9 only difference is I didnt take the haggle skill feats, i took toughness and one of the spell casting ones earlier.

**LeslieWest_GuitarGod** · 08-15-2010, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by NaturalHazard

Hey thanks for the build by the way am running one atm level 8 now close to level 9 only difference is I didnt take the haggle skill feats, i took toughness and one of the spell casting ones earlier.

Nothing wrong with that.

Power of the mind.

**Eckenwiler** · 08-18-2010, 07:05 PM

Thankyou LeslieWest for this outstanding post, +1 to you for your passion and community spirit. I just spent all day reading it (I feel like I should get a completionist feat) and found it quite informative. Unfortunately, it didn't answer the question I have.

It seems that a bard dedicated to Haggle should be able to get all bard-specific Haggle bonuses by level 13: the last Enhancement, Bard Haggle IV, is available at at level 12 and the last spell, Greater Heroism, at level 13. After that it is skill points and the capstone.

The capstone will give +2 to Charisma, which should give +1 to Haggle. Unless I am mistaken this is the only Haggle benefit the Capstone gives.

If these 7 levels were put into Rogue, she could get +4 Haggle from the Rogue Skill Boost while still putting Skill Points into Haggle just like a Bard.

So, why not multi-class bard13/rogue7?

I am sure if I am missing something you are the person to know what it is. I look forward to your insight.

**Valindria** · 08-19-2010, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Eckenwiler

Thankyou LeslieWest for this outstanding post, +1 to you for your passion and community spirit. I just spent all day reading it (I feel like I should get a completionist feat) and found it quite informative. Unfortunately, it didn't answer the question I have.

It seems that a bard dedicated to Haggle should be able to get all bard-specific Haggle bonuses by level 13: the last Enhancement, Bard Haggle IV, is available at at level 12 and the last spell, Greater Heroism, at level 13. After that it is skill points and the capstone.

The capstone will give +2 to Charisma, which should give +1 to Haggle. Unless I am mistaken this is the only Haggle benefit the Capstone gives.

If these 7 levels were put into Rogue, she could get +4 Haggle from the Rogue Skill Boost while still putting Skill Points into Haggle just like a Bard.

So, why not multi-class bard13/rogue7?

I am sure if I am missing something you are the person to know what it is. I look forward to your insight.

1. Rouge Skill boost does not stack with Human Versitility (HV gives +5)
2. 13/7 would make a terrrbile bard. While I think it is a bad idea to make a bard that takes the Haggle feats, instead of making the best bard you can and having a high haggle as a bonus, a 20 bard here could at least CC and Heal amost as good as a pure spell singer.

So overall 13/7 loses 2 to haggle (+1 capstone +1 HV) and doesn't gain much.

**LeslieWest_GuitarGod** · 08-19-2010, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Eckenwiler

Thankyou LeslieWest for this outstanding post, +1 to you for your passion and community spirit. I just spent all day reading it (I feel like I should get a completionist feat) and found it quite informative. Unfortunately, it didn't answer the question I have.

It seems that a bard dedicated to Haggle should be able to get all bard-specific Haggle bonuses by level 13: the last Enhancement, Bard Haggle IV, is available at at level 12 and the last spell, Greater Heroism, at level 13. After that it is skill points and the capstone.

The capstone will give +2 to Charisma, which should give +1 to Haggle. Unless I am mistaken this is the only Haggle benefit the Capstone gives.

If these 7 levels were put into Rogue, she could get +4 Haggle from the Rogue Skill Boost while still putting Skill Points into Haggle just like a Bard.

So, why not multi-class bard13/rogue7?

I am sure if I am missing something you are the person to know what it is. I look forward to your insight.

First off, I'd like to thank you for your kind words and for reading the entire thread, thats no short order any longer!!

Kudos!

Well, in order to gain level 6 spells (I will never build a bard without ottos irresistible dance or mass mod wounds), you must acquire bard level 16. As far as why go pure? Crowd Control. The capstone was synergistic to what I was shooting for with Mississippee. I wanted to specialize in heal (in a "go green" mana efficient way), haggle, and crowd control. Haggle for my guild and I, heal for my party and I, and CC for my party and so that I can have fun playing her.

A human max cha bard offers the highest haggle, period. As Val mentions, HV and rogue boost doesnt stack. In this instance HV > rogue in all matters pertaining to a bard.

IF you plan to specialize in these three aspects, there is no better formulation than pure human high cha spellsinger. If you plan on CC'ing period, there is nothing better than pure. The capstone is that good.

Now, if melee happens to be one of the aspects you wish to dominate in, this is not the bard for you. You can certainly apply many of the principles (to get a high haggle for instance), but I certainly would pick feats that will increase your DPS and use skills to boost your haggle. Enhancements are the wild card that you could then use to "color" your bard to your liking, increase DPS, increase CC, or increase haggle.

There are some good high cha pure bard builds on this forum that include very decent dps at the cost of some haggle and CC.

**Eckenwiler** · 08-19-2010, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by LeslieWest_GuitarGod

As Val mentions, HV and rogue boost doesnt stack. In this instance HV > rogue in all matters pertaining to a bard.

Well, if Rogue Boost and Human Versatility don't stack, then HV is clearly the winner. No wonder there is no information as it makes no sense. I thought that might be the case. Thanks Val and Leslie for clueing me in.

**Valindria** · 08-19-2010, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Eckenwiler

Well, if Rogue Boost and Human Versatility don't stack, then HV is clearly the winner. No wonder there is no information as it makes no sense. I thought that might be the case. Thanks Val and Leslie for clueing me in.

Yea. I was trying to come up with something. Nothing as good at haggle as this build but something like

14/6 Drow Bard/Rogue Mechanic or something but the problem is a high Cha really is perfect for a SS. You're on your own to fill in the blanks of that build.

**Eckenwiler** · 08-20-2010, 09:00 AM

What I want is a high Haggle. If HV and Rogue Boost don't stack, then Mississippi Queen is the way to go. Another clone is born.

**LeslieWest_GuitarGod** · 08-20-2010, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Eckenwiler

What I want is a high Haggle. If HV and Rogue Boost don't stack, then Mississippi Queen is the way to go. Another clone is born.

lol. just remember, to add real value to your party, you'll want to learn to be a highly effective crowd control specialist and healer. You should also possess a dps offense/defense. I use vorpals disputers paralyzers stat damagers etc. My favorite dps technique includes dual burst heavy picks of puncturing in association with the hold monster spell. CC is your first and usually only weapon however.

To protect yourself remember your buffs!!! Stoneskin/displacement go a long, long way to towards helping to procure your survival. When you are in heal mode, invisibility is fantastic, as you remain invisible while you heal.

**nyaonyao** · 08-23-2010, 04:58 AM

First of all congrats on the very successful thread!

That being said I would like to ask if you or someone has posted a 28 point version of this build (if that is even possible) somewhere in here and if don't mind could you please direct me to it? I have tried but I haven't gotten to half of the thread. ^_^; Thank you!

**LeslieWest_GuitarGod** · 08-23-2010, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by nyaonyao

First of all congrats on the very successful thread!

That being said I would like to ask if you or someone has posted a 28 point version of this build (if that is even possible) somewhere in here and if don't mind could you please direct me to it? I have tried but I haven't gotten to half of the thread. ^_^; Thank you!

You are more then welcome!

Check the OP, just placed the starting stats there for you and the rest!

the 28 point version is identical to the 32 point version in every way except strength, so there's nothing wrong making your crowd control/healing/money maka a 28 pointer.

Enjoy!!

**nyaonyao** · 08-24-2010, 02:13 AM

Sweet! Super thanks for the prompt reply! I like this build because it's not only about being a hagglebot but with the right skills (and practice) you can also be an highly effective crowd control specialist and healer. I've been planning to make a mule for ages but heck why make a mule when you can make a Haggle Bard - Mississippi Queen alt?

I've also checked out the Genghis Khan - Warchanter Bard thread and was wondering if you're going to add Gear Recommendations for this build as well?

**Veriss** · 08-31-2010, 05:52 PM

Get back up there!

This is a great build and all newbie bards should have the chance to see it.

**HalfOrcBeautyQueen** · 09-09-2010, 02:59 PM

I'm still new, so bear with me...

from what I understand Warchanters are very desirable the higher up you get in levels. The warchanter builds I have found tend to stress a melee/melee-capable bard build. I don't want to do melee on my bard. If I go for dps, I want the best dps, not 2nd best. I'd much rather be a casting bard who specializes in CC and support healing, which this build seems to support.

So what would be the pros and cons of following this build but going warchanter instead of spellsinger? Also, would drow drastically decrease the haggle? I'm leaning towards building a drow bard for aesthetic reasons.

**Valindria** · 09-09-2010, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by HalfOrcBeautyQueen

I'm still new, so bear with me...

from what I understand Warchanters are very desirable the higher up you get in levels. The warchanter builds I have found tend to stress a melee/melee-capable bard build. I don't want to do melee on my bard. If I go for dps, I want the best dps, not 2nd best. I'd much rather be a casting bard who specializes in CC and support healing, which this build seems to support.

So what would be the pros and cons of following this build but going warchanter instead of spellsinger? Also, would drow drastically decrease the haggle? I'm leaning towards building a drow bard for aesthetic reasons.

PrE:

Assuming all you did was change the two haggle feats with Weapon Focus and Power attack you would be down:

Lose:
- SS: +2 bonus to your Concentration and Use Magic Device skills, +100 Spell Points, and the ability to expend a use of Bardic Music to grant yourself and all nearby allies a +1 morale bonus to spell DC's and a 10% morale discount on spell point costs. ( +1 dc on the song is the only thing that would hurt your CC abilities, others are just a nice bonus)
- 5 points for Skill Focus Haggle, and Negotiator

Gain:
- WC: +1 attack +2 damage for Inspire Courage, DR song for 5/- DR.
- Power attack and Weapon focus. I have said it before my problem with this build (and other haggle bards) is unless you plan on never leaving town almost any feat is better then the haggle feats. In most case I would say PA and WF are wasted on a SS, but since you are replacing feats that are worthless in combat, its in the GAIN.
- Pure Bard WC is rare. You can give a party +10/+9 with 2 songs. That's pretty sweet IMO.

Race:
- As a pure bard WC, I would say don't go Drow in this case. Human gives the extra feat and the Human Versitiltiy gives you a bonus to Haggle (when needed) or a bonus in combat.

**LeslieWest_GuitarGod** · 09-10-2010, 12:16 AM

Every beautiful Queen, needs a dashing, muscular King. It is time to look forward to U7. The King is born.

Many people have asked me how I would turn Mississippee Queen into a warchanter. It is easier than many have thought. Same exact stats, very similar skills. Many want the DC and the spell pen and the haggle and the DPS. Well, you can't be tops in everything, but you can be pretty dang close in the areas you care about. The trick is to know which enhancements are too expensive, and which feats/enhancements can be left in the dust.

I go THF. This seems logical. I forgo the THF feats, leaving all my feats for enhancing my bard abilities and to-hit/damage. I give up glancing blows, and I give up max spell pen, which allows me to build my healing and buffing to levels more impressive than the Queen. I'm also beefing up spell pen enhancements and sneak in a feat at level 18. This build LOVES its meta-magics, and THIS is where his versatility truly shines. Learning WHEN to use WHICH meta-magics to control your healing and CC will be a large part of the fun of this build. Your metas make your buffing, healing & CC better.

I'll put the enhancements I chose up for discussion, since there are more then several very versatile bards that run high CHA warchanters successfully. I'd be interested in hearing some feedback from players of this style of bard.

The biggest surprise to many is how different the Mississippee's play in game, compared to how similar they look on paper. You can bring some DPS pain, but are a buffing and healing machine. You also have a very high spell DC and maintain a respectable Spell Pen. You will be bent to acquire a Torc and to craft a concord opp greensteel item. Once you do this, your healing game skyrockets.

There is tremendous versatility in enhancements. Enhancements can make you king in healing or king at buffing. Its quite impossible to max both as a warchanter so you need to cherry pick what you want. Whatever enhancements you choose, make SURE you are playing to your strengths!

As far as the order of enhancements, they are far from fleshed out. The only ones written in stone would be the first six levels (so you qualify for warchanter PrE). After that focus on the enhancements you feel yous like to build first.

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Mississippee King
Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
(20 Bard) 
Hit Points: 242
Spell Points: 855 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 9
Reflex: 12
Will: 12

                  Starting          
Abilities        Base Stats         
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          
Strength             16             
Dexterity             8             
Constitution         14             
Intelligence          8             
Wisdom                8             
Charisma             18             

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                   Ending           
                 Base Skills        
Skills           (Level 20)         
Balance              23             
Bluff                10             
Concentration        26             
Diplomacy            28             
Disable Device       n/a            
Haggle               33             
Heal                  0             
Hide                  0             
Intimidate           10             
Jump                 18             
Listen                0             
Move Silently         0             
Open Lock            n/a            
Perform              33             
Repair                0             
Search                0             
Spot                  1             
Swim                  4             
Tumble                1             
Use Magic Device     33             

Level 1 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Perform (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Extend Spell
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
Feat: (Automatic) Fascinate
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Courage
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Longsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Spell (1): Master's Touch
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I


Level 2 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Spell (1): Focusing Chant
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I


Level 3 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Competence
Spell (1): Hypnotism
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery I


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Rage
Spell (2): Glitterdust
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II


Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
Spell (2): Sonic Blast
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I


Level 6 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Suggestion
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I


Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Blur
Spell (3): Haste
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Inspire Courage
Spell (3): Good Hope
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II


Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Greatness
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II


Level 10 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Spell (3): Displacement
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Otto's Sphere of Dancing
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I


Level 11 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration I


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons (swap for Spell Focus: Enchantment once you complete Min II weapon) 
Feat: (Automatic) Song of Freedom
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III


Level 13 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (5): Greater Heroism
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
Spell (4): Hold Monster
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III


Level 14 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (5): Mass Suggestion
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II


Level 15 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Heroics
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Remove Fear
Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (6): Otto's Irresistable Dance
Spell (5): Mind Fog
Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration II


Level 17 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Invisibility
Spell (6): Heroes Feast
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery III


Level 18 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
Feat: (Automatic) Mass Suggestion
Spell (3): Crushing Despair


Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (6): Greater Shout
Spell (4): Dimension Door
Enhancement: Bard Charisma III


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (5): Shadow Walk
Enhancement: Bard Musical Prodigy
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III

Stats that most anyone can achieve:
26 STR: 16 base + 2 tome + 6 item (+ 2 rage)
24 CON: 14 base + 2 tome + 6 item ( + 2 rage)
38 CHA: 18 base + 5 levels + 2 tome + 3 enhancement + 1 human + 6 item + 1 ship buff + 2 capstone

Max potential (gear dependant)
30 STR: 16 base + 2 tome + 7 item + 1 lotd (+ 2 rage + 2 yugo)
28 CON: 14 base + 2 tome + 1 enhancement + 6 item + 1 lotd ( + 2 rage + 2 yugo + 2 mineral II weapon)
46 CHA: 18 base + 5 levels + 3 tome + 3 enhancement + 1 human + 3 exceptional + 7 item + 1 lotd + 1 ship buff + 2 capstone (+ 2 yugo)

This build will not be complete until U7 hits. For now, this is just a rough draft, meant to spur discussion. I'd like to hear from High-CHA warchanters (I see you!

). What would you change?

**Wizzly_Bear** · 09-10-2010, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by LeslieWest_GuitarGod

I'd like to hear from High-CHA warchanters (I see you!

). What would you change?

This is my old max-haggle build (now TRs are necessary for max-haggle and I'm not going to invest that much into it).

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Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
(20 Bard) 
Hit Points: 222
Spell Points: 786 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 8
Reflex: 11
Will: 11
                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    16
Dexterity             8                     8
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             18                    29
                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                    22
Concentration         6                    25
Haggle                8                    41
Jump                  6                    25
Perform               8                    32
Tumble                0                     0 (1 pt)
Use Magic Device      8                    32

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness

Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons

Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack

Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting

Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Haggle

Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Negotiator

Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Bard Musical Prodigy
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Bard Haggle IV
Enhancement: Bard Charisma III
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery IV

**HalfOrcBeautyQueen** · 09-10-2010, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by LeslieWest_GuitarGod

Every beautiful Queen, needs a dashing, muscular King. It is time to look forward to U7. The King is born.

Many people have asked me how I would turn Mississippee Queen into a warchanter. It is easier than many have thought. Same exact stats, very similar skills.

When I was fooling around with the character creation tool this is what I started with with a Human bard before I went drow. I went Drow for aesthetic reasons, and took Weapon Focus: Piercing to stack with the Drow enhancements. Except that in reality piercing weapons aren't very good and I might change it for slashing. I didn't realize you could go THF without the feat (I am a newbie, after all).

My haggle wc drow has 13 STR 14 CON and 19 CHA - I'm envisioning her more as a buffer/cc-er than providing any beneficial DPS - but I might have to reroll and go human for the more balanced stats you posted. Hm....

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