a little advice pls

[carnax]

hello all, i just recently returned to ddo from a 18 month hiatus heh. not entirely back up to speed with whats what but trying to make do...i wanted to make an intim/stun monk with enough umd to be able to use 6th level scross minimum umd 40 something if i remember correctly. anyway. i was drunk last night (as im sure most of you were too so no disaproving looks now!) and attempted to make the build myself hah, wanted to post it and see if anyone had some criticism or advice.


feel free to rip it apart, thats what i want hah. you find a problem let me know i wanna fix it hehe. thanks again in advance and without further procastinating.

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Level 16 Lawful Good Human Male
(15 Monk \ 1 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 200
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 11\11\16\21
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 15
Will: 15

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 16)           (Level 16)
Strength             16                 22                   22
Dexterity            15                 17                   18
Constitution         11                 12                   12
Intelligence         11                 13                   13
Wisdom               15                 18                   22
Charisma              8                 10                   10

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 16
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 16

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 16)          (Level 16)
Balance               7                 19                   21
Bluff                -1                  0                    0
Concentration         5                 16                   17
Diplomacy            -1                  0                    4
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                  0                    0
Heal                  3                  6                    6
Hide                  3                  4                    4
Intimidate            1                 19                   19
Jump                  7                 17                   17
Listen                3                  6                    6
Move Silently         3                  4                    4
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                  1                    1
Search                1                  1                    1
Spot                  3                  6                    6
Swim                  3                  6                    6
Tumble                n/a               11                   11
Use Magic Device      1                 19                   19

Level 1 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Passage
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Damage
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Handaxe
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Club
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Dagger
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Heavy Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Light Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Quarterstaff
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Unarmed
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Meditation


Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
Feat: (Automatic) Still Mind


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Magic
Feat: (Automatic) Slow Fall


Level 5 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) AC Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Purity of Body


Level 6 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Passage


Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Wholeness of Body


Level 8 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+9)
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Intimidate (+3)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Evasion


Level 11 (Monk)
Skill: Intimidate (+3)
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Lawful


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Body


Level 13 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Abundant Step


Level 14 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Soul


Level 15 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Quivering Palm
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Dexterity II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane I
Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane II
Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane III
Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane IV
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Fists of Light
Enhancement: Unbalancing Strike
Enhancement: Adept of Rain
Enhancement: Disciple of Puddles
Enhancement: Master of Sea
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Monk Concentration I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III

oh yes i almost forgot, i got mad as hell when i found out i couldnt buy cloudkill or dimension door scrolls anymore lol, thats why the dragon mark is there, i had to sac PA for it and that sucks...and will likely get changed later but at the moment im still bitter ok.....
unless of course i drop weapon focus for PA....thoughts?

[Baahb3]

I am not much on posting build comments but if the weighted weapon property does not work for Stunning Fist I would swap that for Stunning Blow so you can take advantage of the big boost in DC. I don't think Stunning Blow is a monk bonus feat though.

[Steiner-Davion]

Well starting with an 8 for CHA will make it hard to get to 40 UMD even if you roll a lot of 20s. but unforunately CHA is kind of a dump stat for Monks.

[carnax]

reviewed some other data, and took some of your ideas into account and have revised the build slightly. continue to critique pls. some of you may or may not not that this readout is 3 AP short of max...thats because for some reason the char gen wouldnt let me take master of sea, even though it costs 3 and i had only 3 left so just left it out, making note so ya dont think i just forgot or something lol

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Level 16 Lawful Good Human Male
(15 Monk \ 1 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 234
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 11\11\16\21
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 15
Will: 15

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 16)           (Level 16)
Strength             16                 22                   22
Dexterity            15                 17                   18
Constitution         12                 14                   14
Intelligence         10                 12                   12
Wisdom               15                 18                   22
Charisma              8                 10                   10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 8
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 16
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 16
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 16

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 16)          (Level 16)
Balance               6                 15                   17
Bluff                -1                  0                    0
Concentration         3                 21                   21
Diplomacy            -1                  0                    4
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                  0                    0
Heal                  4                  8                    8
Hide                  2                  4                    4
Intimidate            3                 19                   19
Jump                  7                 16                   16
Listen                2                  6                    6
Move Silently         2                  4                    4
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                  1                    1
Search                1                  1                    1
Spot                  6                 10                   10
Swim                  7                 10                   10
Tumble                6                  8                    8
Use Magic Device      3                 19                   19

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Swim (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Passage
Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
Feat: (Automatic) Trip


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Meditation


Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
Feat: (Automatic) Still Mind


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Magic
Feat: (Automatic) Slow Fall


Level 5 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) AC Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Purity of Body


Level 6 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Passage


Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Wholeness of Body


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Evasion


Level 11 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Lawful


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Body


Level 13 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Abundant Step


Level 14 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Soul


Level 15 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Quivering Palm
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Dexterity II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane I
Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane II
Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane III
Enhancement: Way of the Elegant Crane IV
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Fists of Light
Enhancement: Unbalancing Strike
Enhancement: Adept of Flame
Enhancement: Disciple of Candles
Enhancement: Master of Bonfires
Enhancement: Adept of Rain
Enhancement: Disciple of Puddles
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III

[Rog]

kk bud u want a umd/intemdate monk right which is it umd or intemdate u cant have them both as for umd even with a 16 char which u eat a +2 char tome then u a +6 stat item u can get easly getting a 40 umd is near inpossable and scew the dragon mark as for ck it outdate they nerfed that way back in the day in thernal enough peeps got tired of the 30 minute i cant see **** ck now no body uses it except on a rare occassion we have better spells and killing flenser are a j/k. char is a dump stat and umd will cost u double so will intemdate i believe but on intemdate i believe there is a monk path to give u bonus.
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