A level of Fighter, or not?

[SteeleTrueheart]

As mentioned above, 2 considerations not to forget when thinking about multiclassing pally.

The capstone, which we should know about fairly soon....and the holy avenger. It was mentioned the holy avenger will scale according to paladin level. I'd have to think that there'd be something at 20. How good that's gonna be is anyone's guess.

I hope (and I believe I echo Borror0's thoughts on this) that the Holy Avenger (HA) will not give different abilities to different levels of paladin. If it did that it would be a pseudo enhancement line for paladins and every paladin would have to own one. It would in essence be a crutch to bolster the paladin class, rather than purely a weapon choice.

I believe that the HA will have abilities that will scale with the more paladin levels you have such as the expected Spell Resistance of 5 + paladin level. I would also hope that they would include a couple of fresh ideas as enhancements to it such as giving it an improved turning type of ability for other paladin abilities. (e.g. For every five levels of the paladin class that the wielder possesses this weapon increases the effective level for determining the power of your <class> ability by 1. <Lay on hands / Smite / Caster Level / Divine Grace / etc>

[Borror0]

Who cares if it's in Mod 9 or not?

If you don't mind potentially re-rolling for it, go for what ever.

Do you realize how silly that statement is?

Oh, wait for as many modules as you need before playing your character? Huh? Why play at all?

[Lymnus]

If you're going to take a level of fighter you should really do it at level 1 so that you get intimidate as a class skill.

/qft

Intimidate is lovely for just 'bout any pally.

[sephiroth1084]

Intimidate makes high AC on a lower DPS character (S&B) worthwhile, otherwise, there is the risk of just being a garbage can with a toothpick (and not the dragon-bestowed kind). I'll second the notion that you redo this to take fighter at level 1, since A) you get Intimidate maxed for cheaper and have it as a class skill from them on, and B) will gain tower shield proficiency for free. OH, and C) Jump as a class skill and maxed.

I would also suggest dropping something to bring your intelligence up some. If you're going S&B, you'll likely want the bonus from Combat Expertise (hard to have meaningful AC without it), and waiting for a +5 Int tome just to get it seems a bit of a stretch. I'd definitely drop your Wisdom to accommodate the change, since you can gain spellcasting with equipment and more easily acquired tomes (+1 tome, and a +2 Wis item will grant you level 1 spellcasting at level 5).

Conversely, you could drop your strength to a 15 and Wis to a 10 in order to get your Int to a 12, and then wait for a +1 tome (very reasonable). Dropping Cha is an okay idea, but it makes getting the higher tiers of Divine Might, so I'll not propose that as a prime choice.

I really suggest starting with a 13 Int, or a 12 if you have a +1 tome you can acquire. Besides, the extra skill points will help a bit.

[DoctorWhofan]

Assuming the capstone isn't overpowered when announced, 2 levels of rogue is also a pretty decent choice. You would get evasion, rogue haste boost 1, and UMD and Intimidate up to 19 ranks at 16 (if you didn't treat int as a dump stat). You don't get the extra feat(s), but you would have 7 (8 for human) feats to flesh out the character.

Yeah, but I have alot of problems with evasion. Likethe game doesn't like me on evasion toons. THey tend to die alot. I have a clogue, so I am familiar with them.

A pure Pali is Rock & Roll. Don't sell out Jeni. Stay true to the form.

I have a 16 Pure Pally. I love him, but he is a click fest.

As mentioned above, 2 considerations not to forget when thinking about multiclassing pally.

The capstone, which we should know about fairly soon....and the holy avenger. It was mentioned the holy avenger will scale according to paladin level. I'd have to think that there'd be something at 20. How good that's gonna be is anyone's guess.

I wonder too, hence the question. I have another pally I can reroll if I want. But I' m not sure which PrE I want.

Intimidate makes high AC on a lower DPS character (S&B) worthwhile, otherwise, there is the risk of just being a garbage can with a toothpick (and not the dragon-bestowed kind). I'll second the notion that you redo this to take fighter at level 1, since A) you get Intimidate maxed for cheaper and have it as a class skill from them on, and B) will gain tower shield proficiency for free. OH, and C) Jump as a class skill and maxed.

I would also suggest dropping something to bring your intelligence up some. If you're going S&B, you'll likely want the bonus from Combat Expertise (hard to have meaningful AC without it), and waiting for a +5 Int tome just to get it seems a bit of a stretch. I'd definitely drop your Wisdom to accommodate the change, since you can gain spellcasting with equipment and more easily acquired tomes (+1 tome, and a +2 Wis item will grant you level 1 spellcasting at level 5).

Conversely, you could drop your strength to a 15 and Wis to a 10 in order to get your Int to a 12, and then wait for a +1 tome (very reasonable). Dropping Cha is an okay idea, but it makes getting the higher tiers of Divine Might, so I'll not propose that as a prime choice.

I really suggest starting with a 13 Int, or a 12 if you have a +1 tome you can acquire. Besides, the extra skill points will help a bit.

INT was a dump stat. usually DEX is but eith AC bonuses, I thought I should move that up a little. After all, my 11 clogue has better AC than my s&B 16 pally. For my pallys It's CHA and STR at least equal, WIS and CON, then DEX and INT.

I might try an elf pally, making it easier putting points in INT, for I will get DEX as an enhancement. Dunno. Hence my throwing it up to all to see. Right now the toon I have made is level 4, and I have no problem rerolling her. SHe has been a monk 3 times before giving up and realising the fact I don't have patience to play a monk.