Any offers on Wounding of Puncturing Rapier

[Mhykke]

That is the plan.

The first offer seemed like a fortune to me the current high offer seems like a big fortune. (I guess its all in perception)

Good for you.

If you're not going to use it, then definitely trade it so that multiple characters of yours can be set for a long time.

[Thame]

Avoidance is a controversial method of dealing with conflict which attempts to avoid directly confronting the issue at hand. Methods of doing this can include changing the subject, putting off a discussion until later, or simply not bringing up the subject of contention.
Back to the issue at hand your burst puncturing weapons are inferior to a wop rapier.

If you feel the need to say WoP weapons are better then speak to your hearts content. But then again admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.......... and If you keep saying it enough you might actually make yourself believe it......

[Thame]

There is no drama here. Thame and I are engaged in a battle of wits. Sadly he is unarmed.

Found some reference material for you to practice


How to lie -


1Decide if what you are lying about is worth the effort and the potential consequences. It is a personal decision. You need to be realistic with yourself. It is easy to become a compulsive liar and ruin your life. Under what circumstances are you willing to risk damaging relationships, reputation, and future opportunities and do the benefits of telling the lie outweigh the risks?
2If you know you're going to have to lie, think of some specific true thing (place, person, event, story) that your lie will fit into and use those details if you are questioned. This gives you a bank of specific details to draw on so you don't have to keep making things up as you go along. The more things you have to lie about to support your original lie, the more likely you are to be tripped up. Lying is a bit like chess--you must always think ahead. Anticipate what the person you're lying to is going to ask, and be prepared with a response.
Force yourself to believe your lie is truth. This will make you naturally act as if you were telling the truth. The trick is convincing your sub-conscious mind that you're telling the truth. An example of this may be, "Did I wreck the car? Well, I drove it into a wall. So, the wall wrecked the car. I just moved it!" In the immortal words of George Costanza, "It's not a lie if you believe it's true." This works well when your situation is quite ersatz.
NEVER use big words or speak in a way you are not used to. If an average Joe sounds like he's reciting a thesaurus when you ask him how your car got that huge scratch, you'll know something is up.
Slide the lie into a casual conversation. It's better to lie to the person in advance than have him question you later on the same topic. That way, the victim's mind has hours, possibly days to fill in the blanks, and if he/she does come back to question the story, you'll have a much easier time as your victim starts in on you. If the victim discovers your misdeed before you explain yourself, they'll have time to deduce what has happened with a certain degree of certainty before they ever even question you.
Example: Joe, Bob's roommate, walks in the front door, Bob, looking up from the television screen is told by Joe that the dog ate his sandwich when Joe actually did. Bob walks into the kitchen, discovers the sandwich is gone and shrugs. However, if Joe never said anything, Bob would come out of the kitchen angry and assumed Joe ate his tender, delicious, mid-morning snack, which in turn makes him angry and less receptive to anything Joe has to say in his defense.
Look the person you are lying to in the eye. Don't look around. Don't touch your head with your hand, or hold your palms up. Keep your palms at your side, and leave them there. There are many subliminal messages people send when lying. Learn what they are and how to avoid them. Most professional lie detectors (e.g. law enforcement professionals) know what they are, and you should, too. The cops will make small talk with you to establish what your "normal" behaviors are. When they get down to the serious subject matter, they look for deviances in behavior. Polygraph machines work the same way.
Practice lying in front a mirror or video camera. Observe your facial expressions. Try making your eyes go big and letting your mouth hang open a little for an innocent/shocked look. Also, practice looking like you're holding back tears. When you smile, show your teeth a little and crinkle up your eyes and cheeks. This is a 'sincere' smile, an ear-to-ear one.
Make a truthful admission. If you sense that someone else suspects you of lying, admit or make them suspect you of something small or untrue. They will take the bait and think that that is all you were lying about.
Play dumb. Coming off as too stupid to lie is a great defense. Lie as badly as you can about something small, but never actually admit to doing it. You will be free to lie about much bigger things and never be suspected.
Follow through. Never forget about your lie, and treat it like it actually happened. Mention it in conversations the way you would if it was true. Silence about a certain subject can arouse suspicion, especially in retrospect.
First, you will find that lying is much easier if you have a neutral reputation towards whoever you're lying to. This means you cannot have done anything bad to them that they can recently recall. This will prevent immediate suspicion about whatever you're saying and they will listen to your story and believe in you a bit more.
Think about what questions the victim of your lie will ask when you next see them. For example: You tell your parents you're going to the movies with a friend. But you're really going to a concert with your girlfriend. Logically they're going to ask about what was in the movie you watched. Before you go, Google a summary what was in the movie; along with the climax and you can say it was your favorite part. Make sure to not sound like it was rehearsed.
Make a lie that cannot be linked with anything anybody can relate to or look up. An example would be that you wanted to get out of school and you're "sick." Obviously you're going to have to go to the nurses office and explain what's wrong. Your school nurse usually will only be able to check your head with a thermometer. So saying your stomach hurts from eating beans at lunch can't be checked or related to because the nurse didn't eat lunch with you and she can't open your stomach and look inside. The rest of the lie is in the bag.
If possible, combine your lie with the truth. Say your mom heard you talking on the phone about how drunk you got last night. She confronts you about it. Of course, you cannot completely turn around and say you didn't touch alcohol. Instead, include some of the truth while downplaying it. If you said, "What? I didn't drink!", say, "Yeah, Mom, they had a bottle of scotch after work... I took like one drink and I was out. It was gross."
Insult the other side. If people ask you about a lie, they expect you to be defensive, so naturally you should go on the offensive. Let's say you borrowed your dad's car and screwed it up somehow. He comes home, sees it, and says, "What happened to my car?" Instead of saying, "I don't know, I didn't do anything," say, "I dunno. It was screwing up the whole way over there, I had to pull over like twice and check out the engine."
Do not try to distract the other person. It is very obvious when someone is trying to change the subject. If you keep talking about baseball while they're trying to figure out where their money went, it will be obvious you are nervous and don't want to talk about it. Instead, talk about their money for as long as you normally would - this is another reason why it is important to learn how you act when you are telling the truth.
It's not hard to lie but you might forget you ever made the lie so keep them written down and always remember to sound believable.

[ace_mason]

Found some reference material for you to practice


How to lie -


Play dumb. Coming off as too stupid to lie is a great defense.

I assume this is why you are such a good liar?
Back on point. Wops are better than dps/puncturing weapons.

[Thame]

I assume this is why you are such a good liar?
Back on point. Wops are better than dps/puncturing weapons.

Ok that lacked any kind of originality. You can do better then that im sure......

[Boldrin]

Hey Dragonslayer, wanna tell us what your current high offer is? That way we can steer you correctly

[Clay]

Ok, Thame and Ace:

Madstone Elite:

Thame Burst+Punc VS. Ace W/P

No weopon changes, ie. you are killing only non-skellies, no banishers for fiend bloods.

2 Clr, one for each of Thame and Ace

1 caster for haste/blur/web/hypno NO dmg spells except on skellies with no fleshly mobs around

1 DPS melee for skellies and skellies only.

We will see by kill total which is better.

Unwilling to show up? Then concede your side in the argument and lets end this silly bickering. Thame, if you are going to post quotations of defining jealousy, denial then you sure as heck better be there. It would be very hypocritical to spout off so, and then fail to back up your claims. If you are correct then you walk away 2 mil pp richer... If you are wrong, then we bystanders no longer need read such drivel about burst/punc being better than W/P anytime a trade thread gets posted.

[Inspire]

Ok, Thame and Ace

Can I get a piece of that action?!

50Kpp on Ace.







Edit: Make it Ritual Sacrafice, its more fun than Madstone.

[ace_mason]

Ok, Thame and Ace:

Madstone Elite:

Thame Burst+Punc VS. Ace W/P

No weopon changes, ie. you are killing only non-skellies, no banishers for fiend bloods.

2 Clr, one for each of Thame and Ace

1 caster for haste/blur/web/hypno NO dmg spells except on skellies with no fleshly mobs around

1 DPS melee for skellies and skellies only.

We will see by kill total which is better.

Unwilling to show up? Then concede your side in the argument and lets end this silly bickering. Thame, if you are going to post quotations of defining jealousy, denial then you sure as heck better be there. It would be very hypocritical to spout off so, and then fail to back up your claims. If you are correct then you walk away 2 mil pp richer... If you are wrong, then we bystanders no longer need read such drivel about burst/punc being better than W/P anytime a trade thread gets posted.

We all know he wont show.
BAC BAC BAC
To chicken (third-person singular simple present chickens, present participle chickening, simple past and past participle chickened)

1. Coward
2. To avoid as a result of fear.
3. To develop physical or other characteristics resembling a chicken's, for example, bumps on the skin.

[Thame]

Ok, Thame and Ace:

Madstone Elite:

Thame Burst+Punc VS. Ace W/P

No weopon changes, ie. you are killing only non-skellies, no banishers for fiend bloods.

2 Clr, one for each of Thame and Ace

1 caster for haste/blur/web/hypno NO dmg spells except on skellies with no fleshly mobs around

1 DPS melee for skellies and skellies only.

We will see by kill total which is better.

Unwilling to show up? Then concede your side in the argument and lets end this silly bickering. Thame, if you are going to post quotations of defining jealousy, denial then you sure as heck better be there. It would be very hypocritical to spout off so, and then fail to back up your claims. If you are correct then you walk away 2 mil pp richer... If you are wrong, then we bystanders no longer need read such drivel about burst/punc being better than W/P anytime a trade thread gets posted.

I posted a thread a while back as a way to show what I had discovered, several people verbally bashed me and wanted to challenge me so to speak. Its like this....
I dont play this game so I can get a swollen ego and show off how big my b***s are. I play to have fun, plain and simple. If you all want to make a challenge out of this, then make your build similar to mine and go for it. Im not getting dragged into some highschool ******** jock showoff with anyone. SEVERAL people in game have seen my build and are flabergasted at how he is and are currently making builds the exact same, so as these builds multiply you may have more people to do your little " My 'rapier' is bigger then yours" game.

Oh and a side note, I didnt even post on this thread until I was called out. So dont say something unless you have all your ducks in a row and have a clue of whats going on.
I posted definitions all in good fun with ace, perhaps people are taking this too seriously. So I will stop replying after this so people can re-inflate their egos and go abouot playing the video game

[ace_mason]

I posted a thread a while back as a way to show what I had discovered, several people verbally bashed me and wanted to challenge me so to speak. Its like this....
I dont play this game so I can get a swollen ego and show off how big my b***s are. I play to have fun, plain and simple. If you all want to make a challenge out of this, then make your build similar to mine and go for it. Im not getting dragged into some highschool ******** jock showoff with anyone. SEVERAL people in game have seen my build and are flabergasted at how he is and are currently making builds the exact same, so as these builds multiply you may have more people to do your little " My 'rapier' is bigger then yours" game.

Oh and a side note, I didnt even post on this thread until I was called out. So dont say something unless you have all your ducks in a row and have a clue of whats going on.
I posted definitions all in good fun with ace, perhaps people are taking this too seriously. So I will stop replying after this so people can re-inflate their egos and go abouot playing the video game

Just for the record ALL of my posts have been in good fun. I know based on the numbers that dps/puncturing in inferior to wop. I was just having some fun with thame.

[AkromaAoW]

For what it's worth, I don't think it would even be close on elite, W/P on top. It might be somewhat interesting on normal with a top-shelf burst/puncturer in some quests. It seems to me that a top shelf DPS weapon does as good (maybe better?) as WoP on normal in many cases, although there are definitely cases like Prey where WoP rules with authority on any setting. Somebody can probably crunch some numbers and makes a nice graph to show where dps and w/p intersect before W/P overwhelms it...

[Clay]

I dont play this game so I can get a swollen ego and show off how big my b***s are. I play to have fun, plain and simple. If you all want to make a challenge out of this, then make your build similar to mine and go for it. Im not getting dragged into some highschool ******** jock showoff with anyone. SEVERAL people in game have seen my build and are flabergasted at how he is and are currently making builds the exact same, so as these builds multiply you may have more people to do your little " My 'rapier' is bigger then yours" game.

Oh and a side note, I didnt even post on this thread until I was called out. So dont say something unless you have all your ducks in a row and have a clue of whats going on.
I posted definitions all in good fun with ace, perhaps people are taking this too seriously. So I will stop replying after this so people can re-inflate their egos and go abouot playing the video game

You keep accusing us of over inflated egos and yet continually stand up to be noticed. SEVERAL people are flabergasted at my build and are making builds exactly the same... wow. Uber! And yet you don't play the my rapier is bigger than yours game. Not that there is anything wrong with being egotistical and thinking much of yourself... it works for some (hey Ace, hows it workin out for ya?) Just stop saying one thing and posting another. You make claims and fail to back them up or demonstrate their veracity and yet continue to post about them and yet it is us with the inflated egos.

Well, I will go back to my inflated ego, playing my inferior builds with my inferior w/p weopons and go looking for some ducks... And to you sir, a happy new year.

[iscifi]

I suppose I may be out of line by pointing out that the test you defined above isn't a fair one as Puncturing requires a critical hit to be effective and Skeletons, being undead, are immune to critical hits.

Just one non-aligned observer's comments. Feel free to return to bashing each other about the head and egos for our amusement...

[ace_mason]

I suppose I may be out of line by pointing out that the test you defined above isn't a fair one as Puncturing requires a critical hit to be effective and Skeletons, being undead, are immune to critical hits.

Just one non-aligned observer's comments. Feel free to return to bashing each other about the head and egos for our amusement...

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Thats is why he said we will not be fighting undead.

Ok, Thame and Ace:

Madstone Elite:

Thame Burst+Punc VS. Ace W/P

No weopon changes, ie. you are killing only non-skellies, no banishers for fiend bloods.

2 Clr, one for each of Thame and Ace

1 caster for haste/blur/web/hypno NO dmg spells except on skellies with no fleshly mobs around

1 DPS melee for skellies and skellies only.

We will see by kill total which is better.

[Clay]

I suppose I may be out of line by pointing out that the test you defined above isn't a fair one as Puncturing requires a critical hit to be effective and Skeletons, being undead, are immune to critical hits.

Just one non-aligned observer's comments. Feel free to return to bashing each other about the head and egos for our amusement...

One might suggest that you re-read the post ... this time with your glasses on.



take a moment away from the popcorn and go get 'em.

[dragons1ayer74]

Turren did you get my PM where you still interested?

[dragons1ayer74]

FYI I am once again entertaining offers.

[gaxpar]

pmd

[ace_mason]

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