Something to give them whiny dwarves to REALLy whine about

[Jay203]

i say we take off the dwarven armor mastery line enhancements for good to give them something to REALLY cry about
can't believe people were crying about the racial toughness given to all races
"BOO! the dwarven toughness was what made dwarves unique!"
wrong, dwarves have
-natural +2 to saves vs spells and poisons
-extra +4 to ac vs giants
-dwarven axe enhancement (not available to other races AT ALL)
-dwarven armor mastery (only available for other races by going high lvls into fighter, dwarven fighters get access to double enhancements that stacks!)
-dwarven shield mastery (not obtainable through ANY CLASS NOR OTHER RACE)
-dwarven spell defence enhancements to get further +save vs spells
-dwarven faith (extra +sp for dwarven pally/cleric, only thing that comes close is Elven arcanum for WIZARD ONLY)

seriously, as if you guys don't have enough to be "unique" already

[Borror0]

You do realize this was a thread made by a whiner with very little support and that this thread is an overreaction to it?

[Jay203]

depends on how you look at things
i wonder if they'll figure out sooner or later that the racial enhancements really didn't change them that much

[Borror0]

depends on how you look at things
i wonder if they'll figure out sooner or later that the racial enhancements really didn't change them that much

That was a much needed change, and I own three dwarves.

[Noctus]

That was a much needed change, and I own three dwarves.

Who knew, Borror0 is a slaver........

[Borror0]

Who knew, Borror0 is a slaver........

A poor one though, I'm stuck with red headed fat dwarves. I wish I had cute human/elf slaves instead.

[tc12]

A poor one though, I'm stuck with red headed fat dwarves. I wish I had cute human/elf slaves instead.

Please add female to that Borr or I'm gonna start worrying about you...

[Freeman]

At least my Halflings are safe around him

[Borror0]

At least my Halflings are safe around him

Halflings are never safe around Canadians, ask Erda.

[vtecfiend99]

I LOVE racial enhancments. Anything to add more flavor to something is awesome. however, I think the racial toughness enhancments were waaaaaaay overdue to be modified. I play dwarves almost exclusively and I didnt feel nerfed all that much. It simply made other races more viable.


Every race should have niche areas that they are simply the best at. Not best by a mile, but say 100 yards lol. Dwarven giant dodger is a good example of this. I love things that enhance a races already intrinsic abilities. Better dex, better con better str better whatever.

[Turial]

Halflings are never safe around Canadians, ask Erda.

Halflings are ever safe?