price question woe and wop

[ducetrae]

what is a +3 weakning enfeebling bow worth.and a wop bow. Can they be worth 1 or maybe 2 scales

thanks

[Cherry]

50k plat maybe....it's the same as blunt weapons...crappy crit range.

[ducetrae]

i can say this i use them both and with many shot and improved crit ranged nothing stands a chance so they must be worth more than that by far. if you add improved precise shot they are pretty darn good. i often woe beholders just to watch them do nothing for fun and mow down mobs like crazy with wop

[Aranticus]

i can say this i use them both and with many shot and improved crit ranged nothing stands a chance so they must be worth more than that by far. if you add improved precise shot they are pretty darn good. i often woe beholders just to watch them do nothing for fun and mow down mobs like crazy with wop

most players who use bows are rangers and with tempest a key factor, not many are going to have imp crit range. add that to the fact that a bow, short of manyshot, has a woefully slow rof. compare that with dual wielding woe daggers, ss or even rapiers, a ranger can disable a beholder quicker with melee than with range. this is why bows are not as valuable

[Boldrin]

i can say this i use them both and with many shot and improved crit ranged nothing stands a chance so they must be worth more than that by far. if you add improved precise shot they are pretty darn good. i often woe beholders just to watch them do nothing for fun and mow down mobs like crazy with wop

I vendor them. I get like 3k plat for em, lol. Worthless. Rangers don't generally use bows, give me my dual w/e scimmys, or wop ss and I'll see who takes the mob down first, lol. Wop bows go for like 50k plat w/e goes for literally nothing

[stalksdeath]

I vendor them. I get like 3k plat for em, lol. Worthless. Rangers don't generally use bows, give me my dual w/e scimmys, or wop ss and I'll see who takes the mob down first, lol. Wop bows go for like 50k plat w/e goes for literally nothing

Add to all these above reasons that even while a few people may find them useful, they are plentiful and cheap.... the ones on the ah (if anyone bothers) are cheap cheap CHEAP, but as demonstrated above, most people vendor theirs to house D. Sorry desc, but yer still in my luck rank for pulling **** loot...

[500520]

My 15-20 crit range bowbarian loves yall for the cheap prices .

[Boldrin]

My 15-20 crit range bowbarian loves yall for the cheap prices .

Lol, bowbarian. Hope I never run with him. Bows are just too slow. For 20 seconds out of 2 minutes they're ok, but manyshot is still slower than twf for those 20 seconds. The other minute and 40 bows are worthless.

[Aranticus]

My 15-20 crit range bowbarian loves yall for the cheap prices .

unfortunately thats with a silver bow

[Jay203]

i'll give you a large scale for both ONLY IF they're BOTH LONGBOWS

[ducetrae]

i agree with the bows being slow and those that party with me know i can hold my own in the melee department . but i still say for that 20 scs with my manyshot no melee can kill as many or as fast and my wop and the WOE is usefull maybee not as much as the wop but does come in handy and dps i dual lighning rapier tier 3 but no matter who it is with many shot i can do damage enough to take agro from anyone in about 2 shots so rangeing sucks but when on many shot it one of the best options for quick dps and wop bows for many mobs at once. melee is great i love it but when i can lkill 5 or 6 mobs before they run a few feet to me and hit me. thats much better than having to take them all at once and risk getting hit . also saves the rest of the party tohe hassle of fight all those mobs and the clerics mana.

[Jaysensen]

No one is questioning your playskill or your gear. But they ARE giving feedback that archery kinda just blows.

Bows just arent highly valuable. But I would say the W/E is worth almost nothing, and the W/P is about a scale.

[Fenrisulven6]

But they ARE giving feedback that archery kinda just blows.

Just curious how many shots a tweaked DDO bowman can get off in 30 secs? We shoot in RL, and our best guy can get off 12 well placed shots in 30 secs with a longbow.

[Solmage]

I gave my str-based ranger improved crit ranged because I had a spare feat and because he has a good dex too. Aside from being fun, there are times when it's simply more practical to shoot something. (F.ex when the blades close in, switching to many shot actually improves your DPS for 20 seconds if you can hit reliably)

I love my w/p bow on him.

I would say the w/p bow is worth about 1 scale. That's what you'd get in Sarlona based on recent bow sales, roughly. Perhaps a bit more to the right buyer. As for the weakening one, that I don't know.

[maddmatt70]

Lol, bowbarian. Hope I never run with him. Bows are just too slow. For 20 seconds out of 2 minutes they're ok, but manyshot is still slower than twf for those 20 seconds. The other minute and 40 bows are worthless.

I disagree manyshot is faster then twf.. My deleted archer would always pull aggro away from twf and for 20 secs could crush any mob. Of course the next 1:40 sec was about maintaining the status quo until I got those 20 seconds of heaven again.

[Junts]

Just curious how many shots a tweaked DDO bowman can get off in 30 secs? We shoot in RL, and our best guy can get off 12 well placed shots in 30 secs with a longbow.

bow burst is insane with manyshot but its 20 seconds every 2 mins, the rest of the time their rof is horrid.

the wop bow is probably worth 200k if its a longbow of some kind, is pretty nice (personally think weakening of punct is better with bows most of the time)

[ducetrae]

No one is questioning your playskill or your gear. But they ARE giving feedback that archery kinda just blows.

Bows just arent highly valuable. But I would say the W/E is worth almost nothing, and the W/P is about a scale.

yah ranging does suck thats why any one that wishes to use bows need to be strong enough to melee and hold there own. bows are situational and in my opinion that situation is only when manyshot is off timer lol. i hate to see a person using a bow and you know its not manyshot thats just not good

[Solmage]

Forgot to add: If I roll a character on Khyber, can I get all your w/p bows and repeaters donated to him? Hey, I'll offer you a full 10k per bow!

[Boldrin]

I disagree manyshot is faster then twf.. My deleted archer would always pull aggro away from twf and for 20 secs could crush any mob. Of course the next 1:40 sec was about maintaining the status quo until I got those 20 seconds of heaven again.

Faster than a twf tempest I find that hard to believe because of the number of attacks per round. I have a 14/2 ranger fighter. Use manyshot once in a while for certain situations, but the dps is not comparable. And I have a Holy greater lawful outsider bane bow. Then again I never pull out of the blades either. HPs are nice.

[Boldrin]

Forgot to add: If I roll a character on Khyber, can I get all your w/p bows and repeaters donated to him? Hey, I'll offer you a full 10k per bow!

Repeaters sell well here, bows don't . I get well over a million plat for repeaters