How would you answer the following question?

[Makdar]

As a pure-classed level 16 fighter, the capstone enhancement, available at level 20 fighter, would have to be either evasion or some scaled-downed version of evasion in order for me not to splash evasion in my final 4 levels from the rogue or monk class.

Your answer would be?

1) Agreed
2) Don't Agree
3) I know enough that I don't know what the answer for this should be
4) Hello. My name is Cletus. (Life is like a box of chocholates.)
5) Other
6) I would have chosen number 5 but I feel I have a different answer.
7) Da Cow En Ing Booot (Translation: I don't speak english, but hello my name is Cletus.)

[EinarMal]

What is your reflex save? How high a save will you need at level 20 content to have it work at least the majority of the time. How many AOE attacks will we face in the high level content they add.

Evasion is nice if you face a lot of AOE spells and you have the reflex save to back it up.

This mod it comes in very handy, maybe the next mod who knows.

Level 20 fighters are pretty gimp though in most cases no one would actually do this in PnP. Maybe Turbine will try to change that with the capstone, but really how many feats do you need? Fighters were never meant to be a pure class in D&D, sorry if that offends someone but I didn't make up the rules. Almost everyone picks up a prestige class or some other class.

[Desteria]

What is your reflex save? How high a save will you need at level 20 content to have it work at least the majority of the time. How many AOE attacks will we face in the high level content they add.

Evasion is nice if you face a lot of AOE spells and you have the reflex save to back it up.

This mod it comes in very handy, maybe the next mod who knows.

Level 20 fighters are pretty gimp though in most cases no one would actually do this in PnP. Maybe Turbine will try to change that with the capstone, but really how many feats do you need? Fighters were never meant to be a pure class in D&D, sorry if that offends someone but I didn't make up the rules. Almost everyone picks up a prestige class or some other class.

aye in 3.5 DnD i cant think of a single pure calss Fighter i EVER saw adn i traved to a lot of LG cons and the like and met 100's probly well over a 1000 difrent PnP 3.5 characters
Yes i'm a huge gamer geek....

[Noctus]

Evasion is not a no-brainer on melee characters.

It costs you AC, because you need to switch to light armor while most fighters are STR based.
It only kicks in if you actually suceed on your save. Most fighters have a low to moderate Ref-Save, so the gain is much lower than on a high DEX + high base-Ref-save character.


independent of the previous:
If you think about splashing 2 Rogue (More than 2 levels cost you Kensai´s improved Crit-Range. ) to your Level 16 fighter you will only get a much smaller gain as if you did it while leveling up. For example you missed out in maxing UMD and have fewer skillpoints than would be possible with the same level-split, just taken in a smarter order.

[oogly54]

Kind of a silly question really. If capstone doesn't have evasion I will multiclass? The possibilities the capstone could have are endless and many options could be much more powerful than evasion.

If the capstone gave all fighters +60 to STR and CON. Would ANYONE multiclass to get evasion with that?

If the capstone gave all fighters a +1 to diplomacy, would you multiclass then?

The question is not really a question, it is more of a , "I really want to have evasion on my pure fighter and hope turbine gives that to me, do you guys hope for the same thing?"

FYI, My main is a level 16 fighter.

[Makdar]

Kind of a silly question really. If capstone doesn't have evasion I will multiclass? The possibilities the capstone could have are endless and many options could be much more powerful than evasion.

If the capstone gave all fighters +60 to STR and CON. Would ANYONE multiclass to get evasion with that?

If the capstone gave all fighters a +1 to diplomacy, would you multiclass then?

The question is not really a question, it is more of a , "I really want to have evasion on my pure fighter and hope turbine gives that to me, do you guys hope for the same thing?"

FYI, My main is a level 16 fighter.

Kind of a silly response really. (We could probably make this kind of a response post to every post made on these boards. A wise person would say, "There are no stupid questions, just stupid answers.")

[Strakeln]

I have to agree with Noctus.

The best (in my opinion, only) way to multiclass is to plan it from the beginning. Trying to do so on existing builds typically results in multiclass gimps.

[Makdar]

I have to agree with Noctus.

The best (in my opinion, only) way to multiclass is to plan it from the beginning. Trying to do so on existing builds typically results in multiclass gimps.

The only gimp char is a char played by a gimped person. An uber person can play any char quite well.

With a decent starting dex, splashed rogue lvls, and the right equipment. The reflex save can be quite respectable. Maybe not elite, high-end content respectable, but respectable none the less.

I don't mind splashing, but thought I'd put this out there as food for thought. Choose to throw up if you wish.

[Uska]

should never be evasion period

[Makdar]

should never be evasion period

I see your sig. A true PnPer. You must hate the enhancement system right?

I think giving evasion or something like evasion to lvl 20 fighters could be called blasphemous to some, but on the other hand, that's working through 19 levels without it. Any chance there's an epic feat that allows one to get evasion? If so, this would seem a little less blasphemous to true PnPers.

Thing is. In the end, Turbine decides what this game is.

[bobbryan2]

should never be evasion period

I agree.

Of course.. I should be able to slip on that ring of evasion too...