Add Ram's Might to Cleric Spell List

[EinarMal]

Melee Battle Clerics are people too....

A divine spell that would be fantastic on the cleric spell list.

Thank you

[EinarMal]

The closest PnP spell like this is:

Righteous Might which increases size and gives bonuses for that (it is a level 5 cleric spell) and isn't even on the Ranger spell list.

Cmon man!

[Seneca_Windforge]

Righteous Might is grossly inappropriate for Rangers, and has little to do with Ram's Might and the topic of giving it to Clerics.

Ram's Might doesn't really fit with Clerics (though it does fit Druids just fine). Just because a spell is divine or arcane does not mean that they should be shared across all divine/arcane classes (Wizards/Sorcerers, for example, should not get cures even though bards cast arcane cure spells).

[EinarMal]

Righteous Might is grossly inappropriate for Rangers, and has little to do with Ram's Might and the topic of giving it to Clerics.

Ram's Might doesn't really fit with Clerics (though it does fit Druids just fine). Just because a spell is divine or arcane does not mean that they should be shared across all divine/arcane classes (Wizards/Sorcerers, for example, should not get cures even though bards cast arcane cure spells).

Ram's might is totally made up.

Have a great day!

If they want to implement righteous might which gives size bonus and change the name great (although adding spells seems to be very challenging in terms of dev time for some reason so just giving clerics a similar size bonus spell seems much more practical as it might happen prior to another year of development time).

[jmonty]

cause clerics need boost..

[EinarMal]

cause clerics need boost..

Do not confuse melee battle clerics (which are not even remotely overpowerd) to casting clerics (which are quite good).

Thank you and have a fantastic day fine sir.

[jmonty]

Do not confuse melee battle clerics (which are not even remotely overpowerd) to casting clerics (which are quite good).

ok. add the spell, but only for lvl 20 clerics.

[Lundivar]

ok. add the spell, but only for lvl 20 clerics.

LOL... actually for a level 20 pure cleric it WOULD be a good spell to bring their melee back up!

[Seneca_Windforge]

Ram's might is totally made up.

Have a great day!

If they want to implement righteous might which gives size bonus and change the name great (although adding spells seems to be very challenging in terms of dev time for some reason so just giving clerics a similar size bonus spell seems much more practical as it might happen prior to another year of development time).

No it isn't. See my post in your other thread.

[EinarMal]

No it isn't. See my post in your other thread.

Fine just implement righteous might then, names schmames.

[EinarMal]

ok. add the spell, but only for lvl 20 clerics.

Hmm well level 9 spells come up at 17. Not to mention that Righteous Might is very similiar and a 5th level spell, request to make level 20 denied.

Have a great day anyway though...

[jmonty]

LOL... actually for a level 20 pure cleric it WOULD be a good spell to bring their melee back up!

with greater bane weapons and buffs clerics can potentially hit well. i'm happy with my clerics how they are.

anyways, trying to up the balance of multiclassed characters might be asking to much.

[EinarMal]

with greater bane weapons and buffs clerics can potentially hit well. i'm happy with my clerics how they are.

anyways, trying to up the balance of multiclassed characters might be asking to much.

So you are against adding righteous might (a core rule book spell) when they have implemented a similar non-core rule book spell for rangers?

Seems odd to me...

[Pyromaniac]

What about for the melee casters as well? Arcanes need love too

[EinarMal]

What about for the melee casters as well? Arcanes need love too

Start your own thread buddy.....jk I agree I was really hoping they would come out with an Eldritch Knight prestige enhancement I was really dissapointed with the list they announced.

[Slayer918]

lol visions of a group of 6 18 cleric/2 monk Warpriests spamming Mass Heal, Ram's Might, Divine Might, Divine Favor, Blade Barrier, GTWFing Khopeshes...

O ya give them Ram's Might AND Righteous Might

Too much? Ok one or the other

[EinarMal]

lol visions of a group of 6 18 cleric/2 monk Warpriests spamming Mass Heal, Ram's Might, Divine Might, Divine Favor, Blade Barrier, GTWFing Khopeshes...

O ya give them Ram's Might AND Righteous Might

Too much? Ok one or the other

Personally I would rather have the spell. The charisma requirement is pretty lame and the duration is too short and you can't extend it.

They should not give either to Paladin's however as they cannot even cast that spell.

If the claim is that divine might is the developers attempt at righteous might the cleric only spell, then it should be removed as a Paladin enhancement immediately.